How and why a human become an atheist

If you're asking with honesty and sincerity, and just don't want to argue your beliefs (which I think might be the case) I'll bite. Religion, ALL widely practiced religions, are provable fables created by men.

I'll assume you're a Christian because there's only one god in your world, right? Well, the whole basis of Christianity was created way before the bible came to be. It was regurgitated from other stories. And as you probably know, there's thousands of gods out there. If you happened to have been born in the Middle East your god would be Allah. Different god. And Christianity is way late to the game. There were all kinds of sun gods way before Christianity.

I'm an atheist because I'm an animal. My ability for cognitive thinking is all that separates me from other mammals. I'm not so arrogant as to think I'm special. That means I don't live in fear of some supernatural being that was created to control behavior. I don't need to be told how to behave because I know what's right and wrong. I also don't need the promise of 'eternal life' because I know I'm an animal that will die and decompose like every animal. It's all very easy.

And what's always been ironic to me is that the most "Christian-like" people are typically atheists. The fear and hate of the 'other' doesn't exist like it does with the religious. "Us vs. Them" isn't part of the equation. Sure makes life a lot simpler, more accepting and nicer. So there you go. My atheist perspective for you. No response is necessary. Thanks.

Actually very simple. I don’t believe in the spirit world, magic, or the supernatural. I know the mythology, the history, and I understand the need for a “higher power “
In all honesty, I have to include god in the same list with demons, fairies, pixies, vampires, goblins, elves, etc.
if you cherry pick, and ignore what you know can’t be true, then you’re simply telling yourself what you want to hear for your own sense of gratification and security.
A couple of Christians here told me, I should learn to think with my heart instead of my head, and accept Jesus for the sake of my soul. I can’t think of one reason why both can’t come to the same conclusion.

Believers in one religion are usually atheists about all the other religions. The Christian doesn't believe in Allah, the Muslim doesn't believe in Jesus, etc.

I am myself an atheist. I respect others right to believe as they wish, AS LONG as they respect my right to believe as I wish.

In the U.S. we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights that guarantees freedom of religion. As long as they respect tolerance we are OK. But if they try to force their religion on others who believe differently, then we got a big problem.

I didn't "become" an atheist, I was one as far back as I can remember. As a child the whole god thing just seemed silly to me.

In your other post, you claim existence = reality.
Gods as you describe, do not exist in what we call reality. It is impossible by every law of physics. Nor is there any evidence to show any such being ever did, or ever could exist. Pure superstition, no basis in reality.
If you can’t come up with a reason to believe, then why should we believe ?
You make completely nonsensical statements, stop wasting time.

"Become" atheistic. Religious people indoctrinate their children, fill their heads full of lies about eternal torment and "God's love"... "become" atheistic. Ha.

Someone else's belief should not motivate your own belief. That's the problem with our world community. One's belief, or lack of, isn't supposed to strengthen yours. They are meant to be shared to reflect our rights and privileges to have different thoughts. The "convince me" mentality just leads to the anger and disrespect swirling around today.

Motivate yourself in your own faith and God will tell and show you all you need to know. Seek information from those of different beliefs to educate yourself about the way other people think and live only because that's what they do...think differently.

Thanks for asking. Most religious people couldn’t care less why we don’t believe.

I realized one day that God wasn’t necessary to explain observed reality. I was 14 and had been raised in a religious home, and had never heard of atheism. I thought I was the first person in history to figure out that God didn’t exist. Atheism just seemed obvious.

If you can’t even have the basic courtesy to use the ‘reply’ button, then you can simply carry on talking to yourself.

I’m not going to run around after you simply because you’re too afraid to maintain a thread in coherent order.

I guess I found it foolish, homophobic, and immoral. Took me a while to deprogram myself off the childhood conversion

Hi TheStarsareout, you don't seem to have done any intelligent thinking on religion.

Not all religions consist in following someone, in the case of the theistic religions, intelligent humans arrive at the same conclusion, namely:

That there is a reality that is the permanent and self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.

This is the fact and the truth with Christanism and Islam, adherents of these two religions hold to the same concept of God, namely (again):

That there is a reality that is the permanent and self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.


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TheStarsareout · 56-60, M
Why to people follow other people's views on how things are. That all religion is following someone else and how they pecicive. its like bitcoin following no substance to it but sounds good.

I watched Songs of Praise on the telly and never wanted to be like those people.

How did you come to believe in God? My guess is that you were born into religion.

Some people decide to take a look at life, based on current science, and come to the conclusion that there is no God, at a minimum, not the same God sanctioned by mainstream religions. These people are either atheists, or agnostic.

Simple, I became an atheist by reading the bible.

Not that I expect you to answer. But , I ask any way if only to show your on going ignorance.
Aside from creation, god is credited with several other features. Which I am curious as to how or if factor into your definition.
For example. God is spirit does god cater to spirits or souls after physical death ? Does god pass judgement on them ? Is god in any way consider morality ? If so, does he have a Devil , to help with those he condemns ? Is he forgiving, or is his punishment for eternity?
Religion, for me, has always been all or nothing. You can’t cherry pick.
Otherwise it has no value, and is just an illusion to fool yourself.
Assuming god created the cosmos as you claim, just what is it you think he gets out of it, and how much of influence does he have on us now ?

Hi newjaninev2, please tell me where are what are the two members of my bifurcation fallacy, and why is it a fallacy.

Next, you are so concerned with technicality of using the reply feature, but the important thing is whether you are intelligent to get my ideas or not, and you obviously are only into technic but not 'realy-nic'.

Tell me, has there always been some being or there was never ever any being - if so, how come we are here today?

You see, there is the spirit that is God, he is not composed of parts, but the universe is composed of parts and bits and everything else that is composed of particles and particles and particles and particles, but particles do not create themselves and do not put themselves together, it is the spirit that is God, that is why ultimately it is God:
The permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.



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newjaninev2 · 51-55, F
@yrger
there has always been a being... The opposite is unthinkable, why? Because then we would not be here

In what way are those two assertions connected?

You’re making the bifurcation fallacy... there is only A and B

Butt that’s simply not so.

Have you really not learned to use the ‘reply’ button You expect people to listen to whatever you assert, yet you cannot master a simple ‘reply’ button? 😂

Hi Ynotisay, please think about this statement from me as follows:

Has there always been God that is the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.


Hi everyone, I will just talk with Ynotisay, because you are many but I am only one.



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yrger · 80-89, M
Hi atheists, my concept of God is grounded upon the research into the question, Has there always been the reality that is permanent and self-existent and is the creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.

The reseach finally arrived at the reality of the spirit that is God, that is why I now have this latest definition of God:

God is the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.

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Ynotisay · M
@yrger I responded to your question. Here's my first line:
If you're asking with honesty and sincerity, and just don't want to argue your beliefs (which I think might be the case) I'll bite
Guess I was right to think what I thought, huh?
Too easy.

Hi atheists, my concept of God is grounded upon the research into the question, Has there always been the reality that is permanent and self-existent and is the creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.

The reseach finally arrived at the reality of the spirit that is God, that is why I now have this latest definition of God:

God is the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.

Hi LordShadowfire, my research consists in intelligent rational thinking and thinking and thinking.

Let you start with thinking on the question has there always been a being, instead of no being, and the answer is obvious, of course there has always been a being.

The opposite is unthinkable, why? Because then we would not be here and now discussing God exists or not.


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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@yrger Yet you refuse to show your research.

Spamming your definition of God under every post does not make it true and no honest debate works that way since you never actually engage with what is written here.

Hi Ent, let us just get stated instead of you setting up blockage to any productive dialog.

So, what do you care to share with me?


To everyone else, as I am only one person and you are many, I cannot react with everyone.


Okay, Ent, the thread is about God, do you have any idea of God at all, you see we cannot be connected if you keep on and on forever with some idea about like there is no I and no You, so why do you at all bother yourself being here?!







Entwistle · 51-55, M
@yrger I'm willing to chat here in public with you. However you have a history of not answering people's questions.

Hi Ynotisay, you declare: "I have a really solid handle on how and why I think what I think."

You forget to state what is it that you think about, let me know, I care to learn from you.



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Ynotisay · M
@yrger Nah. Don't need to consider that statement but thanks. I have a really solid handle on how and why I think what I think. Your beliefs are irrelevant to me. Pray to a rock for all I care. But don't think for a second that there's anything you could say that would make me believe in the supernatural. Won't happen. Just as it won't happen with any atheist. No matter what you seem to think. Have a good one.

Hi atheists, this is my second call to you guys:
"What are your objections against my latesst definition of God?"


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yrger · 80-89, M
Hi atheists, you have got to study the concept of God from me as I am a theist.

So, here is my latest definition of God:

God is the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.

What are your objections against my latesst definition of God?

Hi atheists, thanks a lot for your posts. Now I know you to be rational and also emotional.

Did you read my three ways people come to know God exists:

1. By reasoning
2. By reading the Bible (or the Koran with Muslims)
3. By meditation

In my case I concentrate on num 1.

And yes, I got to know God better from your posts about how and why you got to become atheistic.

And I love you all because we are all fellow humans.

I was born an Atheist. I was indoctrinated the christianity at school (a legal requirement in the UK). I became an Atheist again after I read the bible.

First things first, I´m not an atheist.
Even so I can relate to some of the reasons why some people may become an atheist from not being one.
Though I might develope it further I´ll begin with one, not the only one, not a trivial one.

Some behaviours, attitudes, culture, politics, frames of understanding of the more "militant" religious people are such that the IF they were the paradigm and example of what should be, I would rather move to another folk than becoming like they are.

how would others lack of belief make you know your god better? I swear you Christians are weird haha

There is no definitive proof of a god. Nothing tangible, faith isn’t proof.

Hi all atheists, may I just know what are your concepts of God.



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yrger · 80-89, M
Hi Torsten, I have to know how and why atheists deny God exists, so that I could research more on God and perceive better, and become more and more knowledgeable how atheists are mistaken in their concepts of God.

For example, hi atheists: what are your concepts of God?

Hi Torsten, I have to know how and why atheists deny God exists, so that I could research more on God and perceive better, and become more and more knowledgeable how atheists are mistaken in their concepts of God.

For example, hi atheists: what are your concepts of God?


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Torsten · 36-40, M
how would others lack of belief make you know your god better? I swear you Christians are weird haha

Hi atheists, you have got to study the concept of God from me as I am a theist.

So, here is my latest definition of God:

God is the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.

What are your objections against my latesst definition of God?

I was an atheist in part because I was raised in the Jehovah's Witness cult.

Complicated story.

I'm not an athiest anymore. But I can tell you that all Christians need to do better because they create many atheists through their actions and people see the hypocricy and it brings displeasure to God and His name.

everyone is born an atheist

We are born as atheists.

I began to untangle my Catholic indoctrination and brainwashing on my own at around 13 when I devoted myself to a more holistic and inclusive study of all of the world's theology, religous history and mythology.

if this is real interest,, I am happy to respond
if this is just some trolly -bait, hoping for an argument, no thanks

that you suggest
gives me cause to be wary,
but if you wish, I will, and it will take some time.

Kinda like believing in santa claus I guess. I grew up. Also just based on observation of many who claim to believe but often act out in ways which do not support the narrative.

I am Yrger and I care to talk with an atheist on a 1 to 1 basis, so what do you say, any atheist who thinks and thinks instead of being all the time emotional.

A college level philosophy class did it for me. I had loose ideas but this class helped me piece them together. The class was taught at a state school by a Catholic monk.

Hi everyone, would you care to research on the existence of spirits as distinct and above material/physical beings.

Hi all atheists, please tell me what are your concepts of God.

To make the long story short, I realized the religion I was part of (mostly non- denominational Christian with some Catholic roots) did not make any sense. The questions I found had no real answers. Any answers given were based on believing that a God existed and was personal and was good. And when you reach the point of questioning those very foundations there is just nothing there underneath them. Getting no answers from people, I tried to read the Bible myself. Really tried to read it. What did I find? Some inconsistent creation accounts with nothing to support them. A reasonably well kept line of geneology. A lot of God being fairly evil and villainous. And absolutely no evidence that the acts, good or evil, actually took place.

It was questions that made me a skeptic, but the Bible itself that made me a non-believer. And once inoculated against that religion, I've found all others to also fail the tests for evidence.

Why to people follow other people's views on how things are. That all religion is following someone else and how they pecicive. its like bitcoin following no substance to it but sounds good.

I was a philosophy minor in college and I studied philosophy of religion/God in college (The professor was a devout Christian), and I could find no real rational argument which would satisfy why I should believe Christianity vs any other religion. Even if one had found a satisfactory argument for the existence of a God, there was no reason at all to connect it to the one as described in the Bible, most of the time. Really, as a devout-catholic-turned-atheist my relationship to atheism is mostly a relationship to religion rather than the question of whether or not God exists.

Problem with that is, you'll never get the real reason. It's always, "the Bible has contradictions, the Bible condones rape, the Bible authorizes slavery" but they don't even know where it says these things. So all we know about the reason is that it's something they don't want to say

Yeah, look in the mirror. You seem to have this desperate need to get everybody on the same page as you, and when you are asked for proof, you pretend not to know what that is. But I'm willing to bet that if I made the claim that I had seen Bigfoot abducting Elvis in a UFO, you know exactly what kind of proof you need to believe that. And when you're not playing dumb, you're insulting others. You are literally part of the problem.