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Do u believe that the Covid-19 vaccination is a waste of time ? 😷

Well lets see. When you have numerous reports of side effects and strange but sudden deaths, then you know that something is seriously wrong. You either are in deep denial or is someone who is afraid to admit the truth. I am neither. Therefore I will be noone's experiment project. Something is not right about this entire situation here. What good is a vaccination when you dont even know yourself what is being put inside of your body. Plus it is not even 100% effective. Comments please.

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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
Just to let you know, reputable scientists publish their research in scientific journals, not YouTube!!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Harriet03 Where's your proof that there are zero doctors or scientists on YouTube who are legit or certified.
I'll wait for your answer.🙂
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
CestManan · 46-50, F
Some people die from the vaccination. Some people who do not get shots may catch covid and die.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The biggest problem with the vaccine is that some people feel the need to try to dictate if others should get it or not.

People who think all of us should get it talk about "keeping each other safe" but in other parts of life, like random sex or driving on the interstate like a mad man, people don't seem to feel the need to keep each other safe. Why are they suddenly concerned for humanity?
@CestManan I see you never did reread @LordShadowfire's responses to you. Rather telling.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@CorvusBlackthorne That crap is over. it is like a year old.
@CestManan Yet you never responded with a coherent argument or even a shred of evidence. All you did was lie about his response, because you were unable to launch a coherent rebuttal. However, I see now that you will never have the courage to re-read and respond.
Graylight · 51-55, F
"Yeah, you know how vehicle crashes kill all these unrestrained drivers? Well, they've got this crazy 'seat belt' thing that virtually makes you a prisoner in the car. And I have credible information that people still die with seatbelts. Oh, sure, [i]way[/i] more people live when using them, but I don't trust anything that isn't 100% so I'll take my chances."
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Graylight · 51-55, F
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Graylight · 51-55, F
@AwakeningConfession221122 Where n' when. 😘
interesting that people who eat hot dogs and Spam won't take the vaccine because they don't know what's in it
@Zonuss [quote]I heard a former surgeon tell me he thinks that these vaccinations have in them unborn fetuses.[/quote]
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Also hanging chads from 2000. @CorvusBlackthorne
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
I will comment before I block you...

Over six hundred thousand people in the USA have died from the virus.

There have been comparatively an insignificant number of documented cases of people dying from the vaccines.

The overwhelming EVIDENCE is that those who have been vaccinated have almost no likely hood of contracting serious illness or dying from the disease.

So comments like yours are so asinine as to prompt me from never wanting to hear from you .... again.

So NOW you have my fact based comments and you can chew on them ... alone with me not wanting to hear anything you have to say again or hear from you ... again.

I have very VERY little time or tolerance for dangerous idiots. Anyone who is not vaccinated at this point in time falls into the category of dangerous idiot... Do I make myself CLEAR to you?

AS far as I am concerned anyone who is not vaccinated should be rounded up and put in an open air prison in the desert isolated away from responsible folks....
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Zonuss black people and why peepo. Lol
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Zonuss [quote]@pdqsailor1 I don't give a crap about being blocked. It means I win. You lose. Truth is painful to those who love to be lied to. I'm not that guy. [/quote]

Tell pdq he better take the bass out of his voice before he talks to you 😄
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@CestManan Oh yeah that guy. He is a non issue. Enjoy. 🙂
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Since the post referring to polio was deleted I want to go ahead and say that parents all over the world were advised to give their children cod liver oil every day to help build up their stores of vitamin A and vitamin D which would strengthen their immune systems. I have talked to people my age in different parts of the world and they were also given cod liver oil during the same time period for the same reason. With this covid thing you don’t hear the CDC or WHO recommending any kind of natural remedies to help build the immune system. It’s as though they don’t want us to do any such thing and just stand in line to get the damn vaccine.
@CestManan Money=POWER....they want every bit of it
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@cherokeepatti Patti. This whole Covid 19 system is designed to mentally and physically disable humanity and then force them into a state of confusion and isolation. The objective is to place you in a welfare state and to get you to comply to their orders. Martial law will be the norm soon. I hope you have enough food in your home for the Winter. 🙂
kentex35 · 100+, M
@cherokeepatti I think they appreciate any action people take to strengthen their immune system if it is reasonable. Just taking herbs and vitamins are already well known to help build up ones resistance, but this virus is tougher than a good health regiment. I've heard, a long time ago,, of doctors prescribing preservatives in an effort to live longer. Hey it was done on California need I say more? Those guys are probably getting crusty like a loaf of bread by now. But maybe those guys are still here. If I had to bet I'm going with the house.
If we could all take a step back and look the situation over, is bet we would learn more and live longer than if we keep taking a flying leap forward. I'm a telling myself too 🙂
My wife is a travel nurse (which is why we move constantly), and is currently working a nursing home where everyone was forced to be vaccinated if they wanted to remain there (staff and patients alike). Last week, they had three vaccinated patients die of Covid, and four staff members (also vaccinated) are out and under quarantine due to the virus.

She was upset they forced her to take the vaccine to remain employed there, and as a medical professional that has worked with Covid directly in numerous facilities before, she still says the vaccine is more risk than benefit.
kentex35 · 100+, M
@PrivateHell Really? I've seen good nuns and not do good and the same with nurses. Their heart is in the right place but they aren't doctors or scientists usually. I respect their degree and their time in service. (Experience) I know some nuns have rushed a sick protestant baby to a chapel and baptised them being the parents back then come matching out saying something like no matter what happens the baby is going to heaven. I'm born and bred Roman Catholic yet I find that act almost unforgivable. That was like just saying I know your baby is a goner but she'll go to heaven. Ain't I good!!?
I know you don't owe me but could I ask a favor of you if you think of it and only if you feel like it would you ask your wife if maybe you can tell me the answer her to a different question
My question is what/how would she deal with an in law telling her that all his in-laws have a real bad reaction to morphine. The father mother and brother seem or really go almost violent and they all seem to hallucinate. The mother in law not so much of witnessing her experience just heard of it but the other 2 seen it lived it went way down to the hospital at one in the morning to get to the bottom of the missing cake my father in law was saving from dinner. Or bring him home.
So we are taking my brother in law in, got him to his room and he's pointing at the emoji that's crying. So I quietly and calmly wished the nurse that was going to get him a shot when she got the IV talked off, and I simply said you might want to use a different pain medicine than morphine because this family have a real bad reaction to morphine. I went to far maybe suggesting daladid(can't spell but that's a phonetic stab at it.) because it is synthetic and I've seen it with for them before. She was attentive to a point then just kind of gave it to him like in your face hour dare you tell me my job. Tem minutes later we had to call in two more nurses to help me and that nurse and her assistant hold s down my brother in law long enough to tie his wrists and legs down my I then quietly said I told you so. I felt vilified. There are other stories but not now. I think I either happened on a poor tired soul or she just had enough of the customer being right that day.
@kentex35 sorry to hear about your experience with your father in law. However, the nurse in that situation has no choice in the matter. She has to give the prescribed medication per the doctor's orders. She cannot give anything else, unless ordered by the doctor first. When he had the reaction, the nurse could then call the doctor, inform them what happened and why, and have the morphine changed to another drug. But she could not just take your word and switch medications without a reaction or an order from the doctor. If anyone is to blame in that situation, it is the doctor for not knowing the possible effect the morphine could have on him.
kentex35 · 100+, M
@PrivateHell thanks for your answer and that makes sense. But would it be prudent for the nurse to try and reach the doctor just in case I knew what I was talking about or maybe that would take too long. I forget what my brother in law was admitted for probably one of his knees they were both replaced.
My father in law wanted his cake back and we sure the make nurse stole it. They just removed his entire colon. I don't think he ever gained complete control but that wasn't yet known. I asked the nurse of they gave him morphine. Yes and I said oh. That explains it. And when he asked I said that side of the fam dam ily is allergic to it. It makes them nuts. And left it at that saying when it wears off he'll be ok. They were getting ready to call security and throw him out.
But I had no way to tell them.
Thanks again.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
No vaccine is 100 % effective but most people have them without hesitation.. No one knows what's in the measles vaccines, the whooping cough vaccine and so on and so forth. This is no different - it's not like most of us have the scientific or analytical skills to know what to do with the information if we did have it!

Besides that.. while there are reports of people dying from the vaccine, compared to the numbers it has not harmed, when you consider millions and millions of doses have now been administered world wide.. then even the least scientific and analytical among us should be able to see. that relatively few people die or get seriously unwell from the vaccine..AND the stats for countries with high vaccination rates show that infection rates, and deaths are falling markedly.. and they also show that people who have the vaccine stand less chance of getting covid and if they do get it are much less likely to die or need hospitalisation .

The facts are out there
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
@MarmeeMarch Go take your meds. We are praying for you to get better mentally. Really we are. 🙂
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iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
It’s too bad so many unvaccinated people are dying because this issue has been politicized. It is a public health issue.

I am not sure when everyone decide not to return scientists and health professionals. I would never question a pilot, mechanic, dentist, etc. If they were doing their job correctly.

When you can post a source that is reputable I will look at your POV but when you are referencing YouTube, it’s a joke. You don’t think these people are being paid to push other methods such as nebuilizing hydrogen peroxide, ivermectin, HCQ, etc?

The unvaccinated are now driving this pandemic. Don’t watch the news if you think it’s so biased. Talk to healthcare professionals dealing with these issues. Do you think they are “all in” this conspiracy?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@windinhishair Real life isn't delusions. 🙂
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss True, but you haven't reached real life yet. You're still stuck with the Giants and watching global conspiracies that aren't there.
Crazymatt · 31-35, M
@iamonfire696 bc 2 cures are better than 1 and in this case 3 different variants
doong · 56-60, M
@QuixoticSoul That is full of RUBBISH.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@doong 🙄
Elessar · 26-30, M
@QuixoticSoul The irony is that these people have usually absolutely no problem smoking crap with hundreds of toxic and possibly carcinogenic substances in it. But will whine and tremble at the idea of getting injected anything with dihydrogen monoxide.
Nudistsue26 · 31-35, F
I don't believe it's a waste of time. I say this because I just had a friend die from covid and the Dr said that if they were vaccinated they may have gotten sick but not have died. I myself am vaccinated and had no side effects.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@windinhishair Nobody said that either.
PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
You are so wrong Roadsterrider.
Mrna has been around since 1990. Originally it was thought it could be used in a stem cell type research...growing human organs. In 2010 another researcher came up with the idea for using Mrna for vaccines. So in assumption type of scenario this tech has been around for at least 10-11 yrs...so it isn't new at all.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@PTCdresser57 Ten or 11 years as opposed to traditional vaccines that have been around for 8 or 9 decades? All of the info on mRNA vaccines is from the lab, there have been no clinical trials, no long term clinical trials. Mass vaccination of the population is the clinical trial. I got the J&J vaccine because I didn't want the mRNA vaccine.
this was on a YouTube video but had to screenshot it because that still frame was on for a second, next it said document censored from YouTube 🤔
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@windinhishair The numbers game is for children. All jokes aside. This is tragic. There are people hurting because of the loss they have suffered because of this virus. This is not a joke. The good news is we are slowly but surely making progress. Its a matter of time before this becomes a non issue.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@MarmeeMarch That not how the World Order sees it. Its about the Bloodline Marmee.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss You are correct that it is a matter of time before things improve. The more people who are vaccinated, and the more unvaccinated who contract the virus, the quicker things will return to a new normal.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Harmonium1923 ☝️ This. All-day long, this.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Harmonium1923 💯💯💯 right here
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Graylight Is that what you spend all doing. I'm not surprised. 🙂
CantExplain · 61-69, M
I’m no follower or “sheeple” (just check my profile) but I get ALL my vaccines - tetanus, pertussis, diphtheria, pneumonia, flu, Hep A and B…the list goes on - and yes, even Covid. Diseases are nasty business…
paulio · M
@Zonuss not always but a bloody awful expericen along the way
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@anythingoes477 Wow. You sound like you are really a scared little boy. That pretty much explains everything. 🙂
@Zonuss Yeah I'm "scared"... ;-) ...but not trumpers, huh? ;-) You all aren't scared of anything...........

Other than black presidents, white female politicians, Nancy Pelosi, Mexicans raping your wives, Muslims, vaccines, immigrants, socialism, Democrats, mail-in voting, Jews, the media, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, gay marriage, paper masks, anything about science or the environment you don't want to hear, equality, civil rights, progressives, cancel culture, George Soros, Michael Bloomberg, windmill cancer, sanctuary cities, Sharia Law...................did I miss anything you all aren't terrified of?

You're a whiney ass snowflake hypocrite.....just like the rest of your cult. Wandering like sheep with no leader....scared shitless someone might take ur gun away. "MURICA is fading away...becoming Communists because the mean people want me to wear masks"......and OMG vaccines that have transmitters in them!!!!! lol lol But you all call someone else scared?? What a hoot that is. I'll stay "scared" and you take sheep de-wormer and idolize an old Loser in Florida that swears make-up.

You're a joke.
I'm not a scientist nor a virologist, epidemiologist, only a healthcare professional whose been following this since the inception two years ago this March when it hit North America. The world seemed to get knocked on its posterior by this virtually unknown virus.

There's going to be those individuals who disagree with being vaccinated and will continue to negate their beliefs and theories. I've been fully vaccinated as well as most of my family. A few of my relatives don't believe the virus even exists. Yet you go into the ICU and see the very sick or dying usually on respirators and some in comas.

I'm not going dispute it, there's proof that it exists and I've lost a few friends and know of healthcare professionals who have succumbed to the pandemic. Yes everyone has their rights and I believe we all entitled to our beliefs. I chose to become vaccinated, I wasn't forced at the time.

How many children are immunized every year to protect them against infectious diseases? I'm not disputing science nor what the WHO have told us. I have followed the guidelines, protocols and regulations put in place. It saddens me that so many people live in fear every single day because of all the negativity that exists and is thrown around.

There's so much hate and animosity out there today because of how divisive this has become. My greatest hope is that it will end soon and we can once again return to some normalcy. I'm not out to prove anything, I remain hopefully optimistic and positive that perhaps we'll have learned something from all of this.
@windinhishair I concur, I truly hope that will happen one day in the near future. Life definitely won't ever be normal again, but my greatest hope is that we will have learned something from this. It seems that I'm usually trying to comfort others and help alleviate their fears. Take care, I wish you and your family nothing but the very best.
@Zonuss Thank you Z, truly appreciated my friend.☺️
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@sensualbeauty1 Amen!! So well said from a healthcare professional!!
kentex35 · 100+, M
I'm going to trust the scientists. It's like if I want a good t bone steak I could stick my head up a bulls ass and pick it out ,or I can trust the butcher.
I think these cases you have mentioned are more rare than the way it's put here in your question. If you have millions and millions take it without side effects, and some of those million get reinfected and have milder symptoms and I haven't heard of anyone dying if they got the vax, but I have heard of unvaccinated people getting the virus the second time and dying. There is a limit to how long you can remain immune after surviving the first infection.6 months is the general opinion. More and more republicans are even recommending the shots. There are some that are sticking by the ex president and denying the virus. There's one Rep in Congress that is suing Nancy Pelosi for requiring masks. He is now infected. And I wonder who else he infected. Anyway that's my humble opinion.
Good question.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss Science is flawed, but individual anecdotes from random people are not? Good luck, buddy, you're going to need it!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@windinhishair Again these not random people. These are people. Your reluctance to acknowledge this proves that you fear the truth.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss You bet they are people. People who are not experts. People who know only how they interpret their own personal experience. Your total acceptance of individual stories of random people instead of knowledgeable experts proves that you fear the truth and cannot handle it.
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
Here is some current data:

Over a year into the biggest vaccination campaign in history, more than 12 billion doses have been administered across 184 countries, according to data collected by Bloomberg. The latest rate was roughly 23.5 million doses a day.

In the US, 588 million doses have been given so far. During the last week, shots were administered at an average rate of 63,456 doses a day.
If there were any significant sides the numbers would be astronomical and impossible to hide.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss CDC data is similar to the data collected in many other countries around the world, and shows that the major vaccines are safe and effective. And is far more reliable than a couple anecdotes that you rely on. You are the one who needs professional help. Hopefully you will get some soon.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@windinhishair Unreliable sources used for propaganda purposes only. You're funny. 🙂
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss By every agency worldwide??? You're delusional.
paulio · M
i think there were 30 deaths out of 16 million doses, id guess more people cut their own throats shaving
@Coolkid77 I have. You are at more risk of getting hit by lightning.
@Zonuss Actually it is. No serious source is pushing this silly stuff.
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Azlotto · M
Within a year after her jabs, my Aunt had a stroke and is now in rehab.

Within two years after her jabs, my Mother was diagnosed with cancer.

Within two years after his jabs, my Father was diagnosed with cancer.

Within two years after his jabs, my much younger Brother is having prostate problems.

My family does not have any history of those illnesses.
Fairydust · F
@windinhishair
Obviously not every single one, they’ve been lied to, many doctors went along with their fake science, facts.
All the governments were paid, but most are in the WEF, been placed in power. Puppets to the elites that want to cull the people.

Georgia guidestones, keep the population down to half a billion.
You really need to start doing wider research.

The same nurses that were afraid to lose their jobs because of the divide they caused, take the jab or lose your job!
The
Same nurses that gave them remdesivir to cure covid, killed them. Because Fauci said.

The pharmaceutical medicine is the disease!

Money talks 💰
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Fairydust Yeah... and just wait until these sheep find out what Bill Gates has been putting into the water, food, and air. When they find out, it will be too late if they don't stop drinking, eating, and breathing. It's a good thing the world has you to warn them. Now, if they will just listen.
Fairydust · F
@MarkPaul love your sarcasm 😉
Speaking as someone who’s had the vaccine and Covid, and that having the vaccine reduce the risk of me dying from one in a hundred to one in two thousand, and with no side effects I’d say it’s worth it.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@SirenCalledLuce That's inconclusive. I know many who had Covid already and did not die. Nor were they vaccinated.
@Zonuss Fair enough. I’m just saying it did what I needed it to do.
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I think reading this post is the real waste of time.
KYLakeDiver · 51-55, M
@SW-User Finally, something we can agree on!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@SW-User Well don't read it then. Contradicting yourself is a waste of time. 🙂
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
The covid-19 vaccination program will save the economy and lives, I believe this to be true, dont have a covid-19 vaccination program and the economy will suffer and a lot more people will die, I believe that too.
@CestManan It isn't fancy bread. That 1.00 bread is toxic to diabetics and probably everyone else. The ingredients are probably horrifying. Food should not be either unhealthy and cheap or healthy and unaffordable Pure greed
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@fernie2 I guess you got an answer for everything. Must be so enlightened being the biggest know-it-all around. That $0.97 is for a loaf of Nature's Choice Wheat Bread. But what you don't realize is that what you're paying is the Massachusetts derived Regulations that you keep voting in.
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oh lookie cookie. What do we have here?
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Zonuss I used to do surveys, you know those surveys they’d put in Sunday newspaper coupon inserts. I wanted to see what the information was being used for so I deliberately misspelled my name and I put a lot of weird thing for answers to see what kind of things it would be used for if they were going to contact me with offers or whatever. After one of those surveys I got another survey in the mail, my name was misspelled so I knew which survey triggered it. They were asking about personality etc. and asked if I was outgoing or shy. Since I am introverted I put shy. About a year later I got a survey asking if I would be interested in a drug study using Paxil (a “mild” antidepressant) as a treatment for shyness. I read a few years later that this idea was dreamed up by Tavistock in the UK. They created “shyness” as a medical condition that could be treated by pharmaceutical drugs. And now decades later they are finding that many of these drugs used as antidepressants and also drugs used to treat allergies are known to cause lack of empathy for others. Imagine taking meds that make you not give a crap about other people. Do you think this might be linked to violence even murders? I do believe there is a link and it’s rarely reported in news stories when a murderer has been taking antidepressants. There was a young girl in the country next to mine who was beheaded by her neighbor, a young guy in his early 20’s and the early reports by local news said he was taking an antidepressant. But the national media ignored it completely.
@iamonfire696 Hope your friend pulls through.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow thank you, sadly it doesn’t look like she will and she has 3 kids.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
Is it just me. Or has the Covid-19 energy gone down significantly in the past 30 days. It's like it's gone. But it still has a few claps of thunder in this storm. I see the clouds rolling away slowly but surely. 🙂✨
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss Please inform the rest of us how witnessing life events proved to you there were no covid deaths while your nurse friend and others were killing patients. Unless you can do so, you lose once again, because your argument is bogus.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@windinhishair Says the guy living inside a box. 🙂
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss I am sorry for your loss. What a terrible thing for you to lose your mind.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
[quote]When you have numerous reports of side effects and strange but sudden deaths, then you know that something is seriously wrong. [/quote]

When those things happen then yes I'll worry. As they haven't after millions of doses being given I think I won't bother worrying about it.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@ninalanyon Good point. And now the number of doses is in the billions, not millions. With very few side effects. The major vaccines remain safe and effective.
My car's bluetooth went out right after I had the COVID vaccine, so clearly the vaccine caused it.

Correlation is not causation. You can't assume that everyone who dies after getting the vaccine was killed by it. You have to do a regression analysis and control for other factors.

A good example is the famous finding that people who drink a glass or two of red wine every day are healthier than people who don't drink at all. But when you look deeper, you find a higher percentage of nondrinkers are people with heart disease, diabetes, and other conditions who don't drink because their doctor told them not to. So of course that group is going to be sicker than healthy people who drink in moderation. It turns out that a few glasses of red wine has no effect on health.

So before you conclude that the COVID vaccine is killing people, check to see who is getting it. The number of people who are already sick or elderly getting the vaccine is probably higher than the group that isn't getting it.
Zaphod42 · 46-50, M
@LeopoldBloom Wait, are you saying the magic rock I own [i]isn’t[/i] protecting all of SoCal from wild tiger attacks?! 😲
@Zaphod42 I haven't heard of any wild tiger attacks in your area, so perhaps it does.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@CorvusBlackthorne Not only does it provide protection in SoCal, the entire Northeastern US has not had a single wild tiger attack since magic rock ownership, so the protection extends outward at least 3,000 miles. @Zaphod42
th3r0n · 41-45, M
No, it seems very effective for its intended purpose

Population control
th3r0n · 41-45, M
@Zonuss it’s very likely. Not stated but what else would kill all green grass and a third of the trees

It could be something we don’t know or understand, but your interpretation fits well as a plausible possibility
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
@Zonuss Not necessarily
th3r0n · 41-45, M
@GJOFJ3 it fits really well as a possibility though
FurryFace · 61-69, M
the Vaccine wasn't designed to prevent people from getting Covid 19 , it was designed to keep most people out of the Hospital and away from respirators and ehem ! Death ! although herd immunity was the goal but we're like only 1/2 way there and now that new strain delta is creating havoc so booster shots coming up
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@fernie2 so if you get bedbugs and head lice are you are going to let them live???
@cherokeepatti 🙄 That's another silly thing people say when I talk about this. It's weak. If a killer bear was coming at me and I had a gun I would kill it. We kill for the wrong reasons. We don't have the right to do that. Recently my cat died and suddenly I had a couple little mice...I caught them and put them far away outside. There are vile people out there that still use sticky traps. A HORRIBLE way for them to die.Humans suck...that's all there is to it
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@FurryFace 🙄
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1. What are the ingredients in the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine?
The ingredients are mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.1


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FACT SHEET FOR RECIPIENTS AND CAREGIVERS
EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) OF
THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE TO PREVENT CORONAVIRUS DISEASE 2019 (COVID-19)
IN INDIVIDUALS 12 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER
You are being offered the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by SARS-CoV-2. This Fact Sheet contains information to help you understand the risks and benefits of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, which you may receive because there is currently a pandemic of COVID-19.
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is a vaccine and may prevent you from getting COVID-19. There is no U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19.
Read this Fact Sheet for information about the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. Talk to the vaccination provider if you have questions. It is your choice to receive the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine.
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is administered as a 2-dose series, 3 weeks apart, into the muscle.
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine may not protect everyone.
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WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE YOU GET THIS VACCINE
WHAT IS COVID-19?
COVID-19 disease is caused by a coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2. This type of coronavirus has not been seen before. You can get COVID-19 through contact with another person who has the virus. It is predominantly a respiratory illness that can affect other organs. People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported, ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2 to 14 days after exposure to the virus. Symptoms may include: fever or chills; cough; shortness of breath; fatigue; muscle or body aches; headache; new loss of taste or smell; sore throat; congestion or runny nose; nausea or vomiting; diarrhea.
WHAT IS THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19. There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SW-User The Pfizer vaccine is now [b]FULLY APPROVED[/b] by the FDA.

@Zonuss Maybe you can find a couple more random internet people and personal anecdotes by unknowledgeable people to counter the approval.
SW-User
Just seen it on the news 👍. Maybe it will change some minds for the better of course @windinhishair
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SW-User Doubtful, but hope springs eternal.
if the person getting vaccinated is comfortable with it and derives security from it fine. should be a choice up to one's own beliefs
Fairydust · F
@Graylight
Yep you’re right, you need to stop it.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Fairydust Enjoy your life in gleeful ignorance, and remember the rest of us when you finally really need assistance. Because you will.
Fairydust · F
@Graylight
🙌🏻
paulio · M
wellits toolate for me, ive ahd four jabs altogether, with no side effects at all
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@paulio My wife and I along with my son and his girlfriend got the J&J, no booster, my son's girlfriend had some nausea and feinted. The rest of us had no problem. I am glad you haven't had any problem.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
How about any effects?
Graylight · 51-55, F
@paulio Two jabs, two boosters. One needle made me flu-like for about 24 hours. No trouble otherwise. This is a safe, effective vaccination that's heralding a whole new area of disease-fighting technology, including cancer and other serious ailments. Can't wait to see all the protest on those. 🙄
SW-User
No, the ruling class did manage to injure and kill a lot of people and made an ass ton of money.

It was great use of time for them.

People all over world are also waking up once they see someone suffer from vaccine injury.

My brother left the vaccine cult when my grandmother and father fell sick after their VAX.

My mother laughed at me until she developed whole rashes and chronic body pain. She has now, I think, left the cult of vaccine (cov).

My cousin was also a vaccine apologist until she developed rashes all over her body. Now, she is normal.

Something good can come out of something bad. That's what happened here.

Vaccine apologists are turning into apostates. It is happening as we speak. Many who are proselytizing here will soon leave the cult when someone they know dies or gets severely sick.

How is this not good?
spjennifer · 56-60, T
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Zaphod42 · 46-50, M
Well, so far the side effects are mild for most, and something like 90% of those being hospitalized now are unvaccinated. So yeah, I had no issues getting the shots, and I’ll gladly get the booster shot too.
PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
So who do you believe Zonuss?
@PTCdresser57 Maybe his gut...his instinct...his life experience
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@PTCdresser57 I believe what I am seeing on the ground. You know the doctors and nurses who actually know what is going on. Not the lamestream media that is out here pushing lies and falsehoods.
"Numerous reports".....from................?????? Oh.....Facebook and FOX.

Well then...totally factual, believable sources.
@windinhishair The Pfizer vaccine was approved by the FDA this week for one reason only. The testing period to approve the vaccine has been going on since it came out in January.......and the statistics you mention is what proved to Pfizer and the FDA that indeed the vaccine works. The ones that took it lived and does better against COVID.....than the ones who think Facebook and FOX and cattle de-wormer and bleach and blue lights up their butts and Lupis medicine is the better route to go.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@anythingoes477 FDA is corrupt. Strike one.
CDC is corrupt. Strike two.
The government is corrupt. Strike three.

You are out. 🙂
Neoerectus · M
@anythingoes477 They are Darwinning!


If not endangering others, I'd cheer them on ...
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Fairydust · F
@windinhishair there’s way more than you think. It’s being hidden, even the pharmaceutical companies are turning a blind eye to injury.
you’re being lied to. The Ruth is out there. You won’t get it from the corrupt leaders etc.

Truth comes out, time will tell.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Fairydust That would require a global conspiracy of silence for all of the nations on earth. You've been sadly duped. But you are right, time will tell. Hopefully you'll be able to admit you were wrong and deliberately misled.
@SoLeRiMix [quote] Yes, some people died due to the complications they developed in their body after vaccination but majority of them did have a medical history. [/quote] so you speak for those majority of people?
OnlyRhonda · 36-40, F
It saves lives. Only a fool, or somebody with a genuine reason, would reject the vaccine.
4.39 million Covid deaths worldwide so far- in less than two years. That's a death rate equal to the First World War (10 million deaths in four years). Plus the effects of long covid.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@OnlyRhonda Only a fool would believe everything that the government tells you. If only JFK or Martin Luther King or Lincoln could speak from the grave. 😑
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
It should be an individual Choice instead of a Mandate. The problem is that the people who are saying that we have No Individual Choice when it involves anything dealing with COVID-19 are the same ones demanding that we must have an Individual Choice when it comes to Abortion.

Either we have the Right to Individual Choice under the US Constitution, or we do not. It really is that simple.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@gol979 So you don't infect others.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@MarkPaul 😂😂😂 oh dear. Still going for medical segregation
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@gol979 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 😂🤣🤣
CuriousCuckold · 61-69, M
I just wish that people would stop the vaccine debate. Take it or don't take it but stop this never ending debate. What is the point of any of this talking?
CestManan · 46-50, F
@LordShadowfire Are you horrified?
Kidding aside, do you wish to go to the next Trump rally with me?
@CestManan I should have known you hitched your wagon to that pathetic fool.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@LordShadowfire Honestly, I have no political affiliation.
butterfly1013 · 26-30, F
I don't necessarily think that it's a waste of time, but I do think that it shouldn't be something that someone shoves down a person's throat. If someone doesn't want to get the vaccine they shouldn't have to get it. I hope they don't ever make it mandatory. I've heard in some places they are thinking of doing that.

I still have my reservations about the vaccine. I mean everyone I know personally that's gotten the vaccine has been okay, but not everyone processes these things well both physically and mentally. Just because one didn't have issues doesn't mean that the next person won't. I know I'm stepping on some toes here, but I'm sorry. Yes, I want to "stop the spread of the corona virus" as my 6 year old nephew would say in a robotic tone, but whose to say that if I get this vaccine that it automatically keeps me from getting the virus? It baffles me just how many people just trust it without questioning it. How do you 100% trust something that came out of thin air? To me, they came up with a little to fast. People have their reasons for not getting and they are valid. I know someone who was told by her doctor not to get the vaccines because of other issues she had and she wanted the vaccine I believe. In a case like that, what do you do? It's a risk type of thing regardless. I hope I don't ever have to personally deal with Covid-19, but so far I've been okay just social distancing and staying my but at the house unless I just have to go somewhere. I do think we should still wear mask though and those getting the vaccine would be smart to do so as well.

and saying that you will get a hot dog or pack or ramen noodles but not get the vaccine is a stupid argument. That's completely different. Eating a bag or ramen noodles one day isn't going to hurt someone.. it's food.. you don't have to think about it that hard. Food we have to have to survive.

Anyway, I'm not saying that I will never get the vaccine, but it's not something I am in a rush to get to be honest.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@butterfly1013 I also believe that people should not be labeled or branded if they refuse to be indoctrinated.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Zonuss what indoctrination?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss So to follow sound science is to be indoctrinated? The indoctrination is in people who take the word of random internet people over the best epidemiologists in the world, and the observed impacts of the extremely successful vaccine.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
I am a long-standing anti-vaxxer but this one is different. we see countless more reports of deaths, long term illness and disability associated with COVID and to every one report we hear about adverse side effects we see study after study saying that the vacination protects to a good degree and that even if you catch the Indian variant you are much less likely to be seriously ill or to die.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Adaydreambeliever They are only saying these things out of convenience. 🙂
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@Zonuss No my sweet... the numbers ( and we do get coverage of nurses, people who've been ill, etc.. ) of reports evidence to the contrary. We see decline in numbers here, dramatically, because most of us are vaccinated. We don't need conspiracy theories because we see and hear and we connect with those around us. .we are all seeing the same thing. Luckily we don't have to deal nearly so much with the conspiracy theorists. We get balanced reporting, we are told about those who get sick or die from the vaccine, but it's just no where near, not even comparable to the people the vaccine is saving and helping.. Just logic, just facts, just sane and reasoning evaluation of evidence
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Adaydreambeliever Not in the US. It's the opposite. We are seeing people get Covid twice. We are seeing the vaccinated catch Covid. Lindsay Graham is one. We are seeing people drop dead after being vaccinated. Forget statistics. This is a different beast. And it is gonna get worse before it is over with. 🤔
Zonuss......Of course you're in an experiment project. You're just too slow witted to realize it. For every drug ever approved by the FDA there are two groups...one group gets the meds that work and one group don't get anything. The efficacy of the vaccine....any drug....is determined by how few who get the meds get sick and die vs. how many get sick and or die that don't take anything.

The fact the non-med group is outnumbering the vaccine group by ten thousands to one in this new wave for hospitalizations and deaths....simply means it's people in your group (deniers) that is proving just how well the vaccine works to control COVID. The only difference between COVID vaccine testing and the other drug testing is that in regular drug trials, no one knows who gets the real meds and who gets nothing. In real life right now.....the ones dying are CHOOSING to be in the group that gets sick and/or dies.

Just because you don't get it......don't mean it ain't happening. ;-)
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@anythingoes477 Sure you did. You are scared, just admit it. Admit you are a victim of propaganda and brainwashing. By the way you just might get a free Big Mac when you get the 3rd shot. Wow, shot number 3. How cool is that. Now you will be Covid free for life. 😂
@Zonuss Yeah we're afraid. ;-) ;-) ;-) We watch fools like you wear pistols and carry AR's just to go buy a roll of toilet paper...but we're the ones that's afraid. lol lol We mention "mask"....and ur terrfied that somehow that will destroy the Bill of Rights. We mention shots...and you all grab your nuts. Scared shitless you'll be sterile. you're scared of the itty bitty transmitters in shots......tracking devices...magnets.

But we're the ones that are scared. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

Stupid people are a hoot. MORE...MORE. Keep talking.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@anythingoes477 False. No, I do not carry my gun to the grocery store at all. Or have I ever ran to the store to buy toilet paper out of fear. Man, you need to stop sitting in your little box and get out more. I am a Liberal. I am not sold on this garbage about the Covid19 vaccination. Got it. Good. 🙂
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Good news here
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@cherokeepatti Democrat or Republican. It does not matter. They are both current on every level possible. Both sides are pushing this vaccination. Only an idiot would not be smart enough to see this by now. Get out of the Matrix Patti. 🙂
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Zonuss Have never seen anything like this mayor, she is pushing her luck is what she is doing.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@cherokeepatti Again. Democrats and Republicans. They are both corrupt. Period. 🙂
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Yeah... and I don't think drivers should be forced to turn on their headlights at night. That's an individual choice for a free people, living in a free country, where they can make their own choices with their own bodies and their own cars... except when it comes to abortions, sex, sex changes and stuff like that. YEAH!
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Slade You are a hole.
Slade · 56-60, M
@MarkPaul Sublime comeback Rodney!

When are you headlining Vegas?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@MarkPaul That's has nothing to do with Covid19. You're way off.
Convivial · 26-30, F
60% effective is still better than not effective.
What's in it? I don't know... Just as i don't know what's in a tetanus vaccine or a small pox vaccine.
Unexplained deaths? ... Far less than tired and continue to die from covid.

Any other questions?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Convivial Because not all of those incidents have been on record or documented.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@Zonuss so in other words they may not have happened, you have no proof they did
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Convivial It has happened. Just like you dont know how many people have actually had Covid, but actually they did.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
So Zonuss, it's two days last my first Pfizer dose, and I had no side effects. When am I getting the bloodclots? Or does my alcohol intake prevent that?
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@Zonuss most of the people I know are vaccinated. Not a single death. Knock it off.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@basilfawlty89 I can think of many who are not vaccinated and got Covid. And lived to talk about it.
@Zonuss So because it isn't 100% lethal you think that supports your argument?....ok.
Thanks to this kind of BS Measles went from being declared eliminated from the US in 2000 to almost 700 cases in 2019 alone thanks to "vaccine skeptics."
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@MarmeeMarch Dude like every kid used to get this stuff back during the 80s and 90s.
Now its like what is chicken pox. Its very rare in 2021.
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Adaydreambeliever They are not a concern. These are moderate viruses at best. Comparing those things to Covid is like comparing an Ak-47 to a cap gun. 🙂
windinhishair · 61-69, M
The covid 19 vaccines have proven to be safe and effective. Yes, there have been a few deaths and other side effects that are being investigated, but that is to be expected when you have over 346,000,000 vaccinations in the US as of a week ago. When you consider the relative risk of death or long-term impacts of getting covid, there is no scientific reason NOT to get the vaccine. The only exceptions are people who are allergic to the vaccine or have a medical reason where they cannot get the vaccine.

People get vaccines in childhood and indeed they are required to attend school. The covid vaccines are just as safe. The hysteria about covid vaccination is unwarranted and the unvaccinated jeopardize everyone with their unfounded and wacky vaccine theories.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss Uh-huh. You need professional help to deal with your delusions. That makes no sense at all, except to the Dumb State.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@windinhishair No delusions. Just real life situations with real people. Something that is alien to a pseudo intellectual to you. 🙂
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss I'm glad to look at the real life situations with real people. Like the more than 625,000 Americans who have already died of covid. But you would prefer to listen to the story of your mother's sister's husband's nephew and how he felt bad after he took the vaccine. That's your prerogative to believe whatever you wish, but I prefer to believe in facts and science. If you choose random internet people over lifelong professionals, that's your choice. A silly one, to be sure, but still your choice.
It makes me realise how devolved we really are.
You know what’s funny about COVID last week, on Melbourne cup day at Flemington Racecourse, (biggest horse racing event of the year down under) you can only go to the races as a spectator if you are double vaxxed with evidence of it (COVID pass) 10 confirmed cases, 20,000 people including myself protested out the front gate of the race track (protesting against a bill imposed by Daniel Andrews our state premier) that can bring martial law into Melbourne) no masks no social distancing, but no reported cases from the protest of mixed vax and unvaxxed, what does that say?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@AwakeningConfession221122 It says there hasn't been enough time since the misguided protest for cases to be reported.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@AwakeningConfession221122 It says that conditions have improved dramatically from where we were a month ago.
@windinhishair 😂🤣😂🤣
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
There is a side-effect to breathing oxygen. Over time, it causes free radicals to form which can lead to death. Eating doesn't always satisfy an appetite. Water does not always quench a thirst. What good are all these things if we don't even know what's in them and while they do some good, they ultimately lead to an untimely and inconvenient death?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@AthrillatheHunt Yet he smokes and vapes. That guy... 🤨
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@MarkPaul no. He pretty much lives on almond milk and takes good care of himself .
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@AthrillatheHunt Yeah, but the almond milk comes in a plasticized container that he drinks from a plastic cup. That guy... 🤦‍♂️

 
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