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Do u believe that the Covid-19 vaccination is a waste of time ? 😷

Well lets see. When you have numerous reports of side effects and strange but sudden deaths, then you know that something is seriously wrong. You either are in deep denial or is someone who is afraid to admit the truth. I am neither. Therefore I will be noone's experiment project. Something is not right about this entire situation here. What good is a vaccination when you dont even know yourself what is being put inside of your body. Plus it is not even 100% effective. Comments please.

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butterfly1013 · 26-30, F

I don't necessarily think that it's a waste of time, but I do think that it shouldn't be something that someone shoves down a person's throat. If someone doesn't want to get the vaccine they shouldn't have to get it. I hope they don't ever make it mandatory. I've heard in some places they are thinking of doing that.

I still have my reservations about the vaccine. I mean everyone I know personally that's gotten the vaccine has been okay, but not everyone processes these things well both physically and mentally. Just because one didn't have issues doesn't mean that the next person won't. I know I'm stepping on some toes here, but I'm sorry. Yes, I want to "stop the spread of the corona virus" as my 6 year old nephew would say in a robotic tone, but whose to say that if I get this vaccine that it automatically keeps me from getting the virus? It baffles me just how many people just trust it without questioning it. How do you 100% trust something that came out of thin air? To me, they came up with a little to fast. People have their reasons for not getting and they are valid. I know someone who was told by her doctor not to get the vaccines because of other issues she had and she wanted the vaccine I believe. In a case like that, what do you do? It's a risk type of thing regardless. I hope I don't ever have to personally deal with Covid-19, but so far I've been okay just social distancing and staying my but at the house unless I just have to go somewhere. I do think we should still wear mask though and those getting the vaccine would be smart to do so as well.

and saying that you will get a hot dog or pack or ramen noodles but not get the vaccine is a stupid argument. That's completely different. Eating a bag or ramen noodles one day isn't going to hurt someone.. it's food.. you don't have to think about it that hard. Food we have to have to survive.

Anyway, I'm not saying that I will never get the vaccine, but it's not something I am in a rush to get to be honest.

1354swrdt · 70-79, M

Having seen the effects of COVID I hope you don’t have to deal with it.@butterfly1013

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@butterfly1013 I can understand your angst about the vaccines. I suggest you do more reading on how they were developed. They didn't come out of thin air--in fact the mRNA vaccines developed by Pfizer and Moderna used technology that had been researched for over a decade. Indeed, this is why their vaccines could be developed rapidly, and testing showed they were both safe and effective. Within the next month, both are likely to be approved fully and will no longer have an emergency use authorization.

Please don't wait too long to get the vaccine for the sake of your nephew and others like him. At present, 97% of the cases, and 99% of the deaths, are in unvaccinated people. You don't want to become a statistic.

Your friend's situation is something that isn't discussed very often, and perhaps should be more widely discussed. A small number of people cannot get one of the vaccines due to medical issues. These people absolutely rely on others to be vaccinated to reduce the likelihood that she will get covid.

CestManan · 46-50, F

@butterfly1013 [quote] How do you 100% trust something that came out of thin air? [/quote]

People will believe just about anything. That is why gimmick diet supplements are so successful even though they are scams.

One could fill an entire book with lists of total BS that people have blind faith in.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@CestManan That describes the anti-vaxxer position perfectly! Thanks.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@butterfly1013 zero people have been forced to get a vaccine. Everyone has a choice.

Just like zero people have been forced to drive on the right side of the road or forced to get a license.

Zero people have been forced to put on clothes.

But if you want to drive on roads shared by others, then you must get a license and drive on the right side of the road (or whatever is appropriate for you locale)

If you want to go out in public, decorum and or regulation requires you to cover up.

It’s always a choice.

If you want to be in a public place with other people, many communities require a vaccine. It’s not forced. It’s your choice.

CestManan · 46-50, F

@windinhishair I am not an anti-vaxxer. I have no problems if others get one. As long as I do not have to take this covid one.

1354swrdt · 70-79, M

Why?@CestManan

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@CestManan I didn't say you were an anti-vaxxer, just that you described them. You are free to get or not get the vaccine, and suffer the consequences either way. If vaccinated people are able to go things you are not able to do, that is your choice as well.

CestManan · 46-50, F

@1354swrdt I just prefer not to be a guinea pig. That is all.

@windinhishair I think the only places that would require people to be vaccinated are the same ones that don't want much business.

Besides, I have never been one for crowded events. If I cannot go to some concert or packed, loud, stuffy place because of no vaccine, that is fine.

The lockdown had NO effect on my social life because I just do not have one.

so I assume you had your shots? So did you just take them without questioning if it is really a good idea or is it just blind faith?

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@CestManan [quote] I think the only places that would require people to be vaccinated are the same ones that don't want much business.[/quote]

Where I live, the places requiring vaccinations are busy.

Why? Because their employees are confident to come to work because they are much less likely to get infected and still get paid.

CestManan · 46-50, F

@JoeyFoxx Some people plan their whole G.D. lives around this stupid vaccine.

It started out as politics but now it is an entire lifestyle or religion for some people, I swear.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@CestManan I researched the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines before I was vaccinated in early March. I wanted to understand the mechanism of vaccination and what the potential side effects were, as well as the likelihood of long-term effects. I also looked at the J&J vaccine to decide whether to be vaccinated at that time or wait a bit for the J&J vaccine. I chose the Moderna vaccine based on all the information I was able to obtain, as well as the emergency approval by the feds. It was an informed decision--more than I would normally do for a flu vaccine or a shingles vaccine, because covid 19 is a new coronavirus, and we don't have vaccines for other coronaviruses like the common cold. I have family that would not likely survive covid, so that was another consideration. It was the only sensible decision to make based on facts to be vaccinated as early as possible.

As the unvaccinated pandemic worsens, it will not surprise me to see many restrictions put in place for the unvaccinated. I've already taken precautions including masking and social distancing again as I did in 2020, because even though I'm in an area not hard hit yet, it is coming.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@CestManan I think there are folks who obsess about it too much. I agree.

The rabid communicators and the rabid protesters are more alike than they are willing to admit.

CestManan · 46-50, F

@JoeyFoxx I think it happens more online than real life though. In real life, people just don't talk much about it because it causes arguments.

Or so has been my experience as far as people not talking about it.

CestManan · 46-50, F

@windinhishair Good that you made an informed decision about whether or not to get the shots. In my case, I do not want to be a guinea pig and I have almost no social life as it is so no real reason to get a shot.

[quote]As the unvaccinated pandemic worsens, it will not surprise me to see many restrictions put in place for the unvaccinated. [/quote]

Even if every single person got a vaccine, the powers that be would just find some other excuse to strip freedoms. They already know they can get away with it.

The pandemic may one day vanish but their need to scare and control the masses won't go away.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@CestManan [quote]Even if every single person got a vaccine, the powers that be would just find some other excuse to strip freedoms. They already know they can get away with it.
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And this has what to do with the vaccine or virus? This has nothing to do with scaring or controlling. It is sad that you think trying to save people's lives falls in that category. It is a once in a century kind of event that requires action. Unfortunately, large swaths of the population have turned into deniers, mostly for political reasons.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@CestManan [quote]I do not want to be a guinea pig[/quote]

I do not understand why you (and others) keep saying that.

Millions upon millions of doses have been administered. The vaccines are well beyond testing phases..

Can you help me understand?

CestManan · 46-50, F

@JoeyFoxx Just seems a bit early still.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@CestManan do you evaluate all medications like this?

Zonuss · 41-45, M

@butterfly1013 I also believe that people should not be labeled or branded if they refuse to be indoctrinated.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@Zonuss what indoctrination?

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@Zonuss So to follow sound science is to be indoctrinated? The indoctrination is in people who take the word of random internet people over the best epidemiologists in the world, and the observed impacts of the extremely successful vaccine.