Do u believe that the Covid-19 vaccination is a waste of time ? 😷

@saragoodtimes i have opinions on this injection but correct, should be a choice.

I will say that informed consent and do no harm has gone out of the window though

@gol979 It is a choice. Informed consent remains perfectly intact. Prove otherwise.

@Graylight the tale of the covid injection has drastically changed since the marketing began to now. "Get injected selfish, all brands are 100% safe and effective and will stop you passing on covid and getting it" 2 months later "oh yeah, we are stopping AZ because it can cause bloodclots. No over 40s to receive this injection". Thats one point that has completely changed and there are many, many more. As i said, informed consent was thrown out of the window

@gol979 Everyone has informed consent. You sign the waiver for it every single time you have a medical procedure.

The CDC guidelines, juts as they always have been, are clearly posted on their website. They can be found through any number of other sites as well.

People dead from Covid: [b]6.5 million[/b]
Number of Covid vaccines administered: [b]611 million[/b]
Number of adverse events related to Covid vaccines: [b]96[/b]
Vaccine deaths:[b] 0[/b]

[i]https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphar.2022.870599/full
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=USA[/i]

@Graylight honestly, if you think injection deaths are 0 you really have a bias or an agenda

@gol979 Please, present you data.

@Graylight just so its not a waste of everyones times......you think there are 0 covid injection deaths. If i show this to be incorrect will it change your stance or will you pivot to "well so what. Millions of injections have been given and some deaths are ok even likely......."?

@gol979 So, just word vomit, then. No actual facts or data.

@Graylight its easy to prove but ive seen ppl many times state their point of view and when evidence to the contrary is unavoidable just pivot to "well, thats obvious". If you arent going to alter your stance when faced with evidence that makes your previous stance obsolete then whats the point in dialogue..... Unles you have an agenda.

Do you think there are 0 deaths from the covid injection? I suppose you do as you did state this

@gol979 Proof. Data. Evidence. Facts.

A single study. A single citation. Anything. Don't pull BS like "you guys won't believe me if I do." That's your side; we deal in information. It's why you hate us, [i]because[/i] we're [i]progressive[/i]. My God, I don't have time to explain your own platform to you.

@Graylight i dont hate you for choosing to have an injection or your opinion of covid. The hate is coming from the morally wrong mandate and lockdown zealots. Ok, 1 injection death........lisa shaw from the BBC. So there goes your 0 deaths from injection narrative. Lets see how this gets spun

@gol979 Mandates aren't moral or immoral and choice was never removed. Lockdown is the #1 known way to prevent spread, and every single time we see a gathering, we also see a rise in Covid.

Newcastle coroner Karen Dilks had issued an interim fact-of-death certificate citing a "complication of AstraZeneca COVID-19 virus vaccination" as a consideration. Now, it seems to me if you want to list Covid way off to the side and not attribute deaths when other conditions are present, then you have to accept the premise in the reverse.

The same article goes on to say "Shaw's death was caused by an extremely rare "vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia"." Not an ever-present danger, not a serious deterrent to vaccination, not one of thousands.

Further, the autopsy report stated that "based on available clinical information, it seems to be the most likely explanation.”

Well done.

Now, why is it so hard to garner information to support your point. If it's a solid one, then the pushback shouldn't bother you a bit. Yes, it's undetermined but suspect that a number of exceedingly rare blood clots have been recorded along with Covid vaccinations. The jury's still out but the evidence is compelling. But again, we're discussing billions of vaccines against fewer than 100 suspect deaths with a contributing factor. But point made. And you lived through it.

@Graylight You: "theres 0 deaths from the covid injection". Gets shown evidence of injection death then you pivot to "its rare". You are biased or have an agenda. And choice was removed.....remember all those times you said "consequences"? Anyway, no point discussing this with you

@gol979 And I believe I said well done. But someone who gloats over bringing a useful piece of information to the table is a child and ought to take care he's [i]deadly [/i]accurate in everything else he plans to say, because people will be waiting to pounce.

@Graylight I respect you and all, but I have one question.
Do you really believe that those are the real stats about Covid 19 as of today. 🤔

@Zonuss I believe they're true within the parameters of acceptable margins and given the paucity of test reporting being done by states. I believe, if anything it's higher a count.

I'll tell you why I believe it. Not media, not Fauci, not even the CDC alone. Respected and historic institutions like Johns Hopkins and the Mayo clinic keep the same information. Then there's NPR and state health departments. Research articles are being published all the times in New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), Elsevier, The Lancet and others. API, WHO, Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine.

Learning and being informed is not a spectator sport wherein all we have to do is lift the top off our skulls and wait to be filled. All these sources are available to the average internet user.

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It’s not safe and it’s not effective.

@Fairydust A conservative film by a conservative producer being shown for free on any conceivable conservative media channel.

[i]One[/i] researcher for an entire expose and documentary challenging known science. And a medical "consultant?" [quote]Dr. Aseem Malhotra Malhotra's views on diet and health have been criticized by the British Heart Foundation as "misleading and wrong", and his public questioning of the need ever to use statins has been condemned as a danger to public health. His "Pioppi diet" was named by the British Dietetic Association as one of the "top 5 worst celeb diets to avoid in 2018". During the COVID-19 pandemic Malhotra published a book called The 21-Day Immunity Plan making claims that following the diet could quickly help people reduce their risk from the virus; such claims are not backed by medical research evidence[/quote]

Good job. You found a week's supply of spoon-fed rhetoric narrative.

@Fairydust Whatever ambush report you just offered as proof is a clear indication you're being led by a narrative and not science. Your choice, but history shows it's never the right one.

@Graylight

The science is Fraudulent.

@Fairydust Wow, fantastic job on being a renowned scientific authority without benefit of even a degree. Any quantum mysteries you want to clarify for us?

@Graylight you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure out what’s really going on in the world!!

@Fairydust I guess not, because quite honestly, you sound like an abject idiot.

@Graylight I’d expect nothing else from you.
One day you’ll see 👀