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How close is USA to civil war?

Serious questions:
Is the US coming close to civil war ?
Canadians; should our government already have a contingency plan and what should that look like ?
Imsleepy · 31-35
I’d say the closer the right tries to push us to a theocracy the greater the chance of one.
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@DIABLISS When I say free states, I mean states where a woman is free to give birth. A gift cannot be forced by definition. When birth becomes a legal mandate it is no longer a gift. In the free states, a woman can give birth. In the other states, carrying to term is a forced legal mandate. In those states, where a woman is forced to carry, a woman's right to give birth has been taken away.
@GrinNude yes, and my point still stands....why aren't all of the United States free?
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@DIABLISS Good question.
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
I don't know, but I am wondering what unites the United States?
Baremine · 70-79, C
@Zeusdelight certainly not the damn democrats. Biden and Obama did nothing but divide the country.
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@Baremine that is insane
romper69 · 51-55, M
Well they seem to be going backwards...how long until they reach the late 1800s?
SW-User
@romper69 You are reminding me of an excellent article in the New Yorker or someplace from the 1980s. Picking up on the backwards trends at the time (Ronald Reagan "bringing America back"!) the author forecast the future of the USA over the next few decades, ending around the point where Native Americans reclaim most of the continent, while the remaining States negotiate direct rule from Whitehall.,,
GrinNude · 61-69, C
I think, in a way, the civil war never ended. It was just turned down to a slow simmer. And then Trump turned up the heat and caused it to boil over once. That's why action needs to be taken relevant January 6th. To save and preserve our democracy. Just saying. Birdie
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
Nothing the USA does is "civil!"


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ArishMell · 70-79, M
I doubt it would go that far, but unless the nation's society - not just its government - gets a grip on its internecine bitterness rooted in deep racial, political and economic divisions it could wallow in ever more unrest and nastiness.

Such problems are by no means confined to the USA, but among the "developed" countries they seem particularly severe there. This may result from the country as a formal nation being still historically young, with violent origins only a dozen or so generations back and in parts, apartheid until only two or three generations ago; all implanting negative social attitudes still deeply-rooted and too easily blamed on party-politics.

This youth seems cited in a curious phrase that has arisen recently, by Americans themselves describing their nation as an "experiment". This is reinforced by many references to Amendments showing her own Constitution, a single document, can be amended as necessary. An "experiment" in what, though? To achieve what?

It is noticeable that many of SW's American users cannot discuss their own politics and internal problems objectively, constructively and analytically. Instead, they sink into partisan insults. How closely that reflects American society and politics generally, I do not know; but it is not healthy and gives we foreigners a very poor picture of the country.


It is worrying that some American analysts have raised the civil-war spectre. Talking about it as if a given, rather than how to solve the possible causes, could inadvertently make it more likely as the more nervous residents become more insular or join extremist groups, and of them the more "survivalist"-minded build up their bunkers and arsenals.

If it did happen, it could be Canada and Mexico building border walls but due to the USA's overweening (though possibly fading) world power, the political, economic and social effects would spread far beyond that continent.
It's not in a state of peace right now.
Murkans are trying to impose their conservative agenda on the other America, awake America.
BlueVeins · 22-25
From what I've always been told, countries usually don't feel like they're about to have a civil war. It's just high tensions and then all of the sudden, it begins.
rfatoday · 61-69, M
We have our issues and divisions for sure. Perhaps the ideological division is the greatest I've seen in my lifetime. That being said, our constitutional republic seems to get us out of trouble eventually. The pendulum swings back and forth every generation it seems. So what I suspect you'll see is a shellacking by the Republicans in the 2022 Congressional mid-terms this November. Even with the overturning of Roe/Wade. If successful, that should cause Biden to be a lame duck in that he'll have a harder time getting his destructive far-left agenda through Congress. I don't think we'll see a hard civil war. One might argue though, that we're in kind of a soft civil war right now.
Really · 80-89, M
@rfatoday
destructive far-left agenda
Illustrates the problem: ideological absolutism that sees everything in terms of us-them right-left conflict rather than seeking co-operative common sense solutions to real problems. It's shitty that such unintelligent, alleged 'thinking' gets loose in t he rest of the world.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
If ever there were one it wouldn't last very long, those far Right wingers who delude themselves into thinking they can take over the Government with their little AR 15's wouldn't get very far against M1 Abrams Tanks, F35's and B1 Bombers. I don't think the Right is sufficiently organized yet to even attempt a Civil War. In the last Civil War it was muskets and cannons vs muskets and cannons, not so this time around, if it were to happen... 😖
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@Baremine You do continue to reach out to the poor and people not like you to the addicts to the lost people or have you finished and are just waiting for the end?
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@Zeusdelight You don't get it, when the "Rapture" happens, only those who've accepted Christ as their Saviour will be saved, just another exclusive club for Christian Nationalists, the rest of us don't matter and will be going to hell 😖
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
@spjennifer That's exactly my point! A bunch of people with their deer rifles, either left wingers or right wingers, cannot hope to prevail against the US military, a state National Guard, or even a large city police department! And don't think that crazy talk is limited to right wingers! There are many left wingers that are just as bad!
Graylight · 51-55, F
We're a nation of TikTok, Instagram and lattes. We're far too lazy and self-absorbed to be bothered with a civil war.
We're already sort of in a cold civil war down here, and we really seem to have far bigger differences then the last time it happened.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
I think it gets closer every time a liberal or conservative speaks driving a wedge between different types of people. Politicians today counts on strife between whites and everyone else, between young people and old people, between degreed people and blue collar. Between straight and LGBTQ. Democrats, republicans, neither know how to unite people, whenever they speak to a group, there is always the opposing party who is trying to take something away.
It appears that Democracy and Fascism are ready to collide in a way we haven't seen before Emotions are running high and what once seemed highly unlikely has become a possibility. Yes, Canada should seriously consider a contingency plan. If the USA has a civil war it will impact the entire world.
Baremine · 70-79, C
@Zeusdelight yes I do. I am older now and my helping is gradually shifting more towards financial support as I am slowly physically becoming more challenged. You are not far behind. I lost a daughter to alcohol this spring. We begged her to change get help etc. Put up with her lies and condemnation. Yes I know what it is to watch someone in total rebellion. I don't know what her final relationship with God was. I pray she confessed her sins before she died. I don't know. I will talk to someone but if they refuse Jesus Christ I tried but the outcome is on them.
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@Baremine I am so sorry about your Daughter. Thank goodness, for a God who is the merciful one who knows our soul. He'll do her best for her.

Yes, it can be heartbreaking when someone says they refuse Jesus Christ, but if they leave me alive (happens most times:)) I rely on hope for them.

I have encountered drug addicts prostitutes and dangerous criminals on my way and have always left with hope, except one time. But that one time was 30 years ago now and I still pray for her.

How rude implying I am of similar age to you - I have reported people for less:)
Baremine · 70-79, C
@Zeusdelight your age shows 61-69. I am 74 not to far away. Just observation
WalksWith · 56-60, F
I'm not sure about the rest of the country, but I am in a civil war with those who are taking my rights away, and taking us backwards. Being 'civil' in the US is a war in and of itself.
interesting question.. if the country works like it should. i would think not. it came closer in the 1960 over giving blacks rights and race riots.
We are close.

Republicans screwing with the 2022 elections might push us over the edge.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
My instant thought was this would be like a Scotland/England thing. The Scots wanted independence, until they realised they would have to pay for a lot of Stuff England paid for now.. But them I remember . Your average Southern Bible belter is nowhere near as smart as your average Scot. So they would probably roam across borders, stealing what they wanted, and that would break down into a war..😷
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fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
A civil war? Ridiculous! Who would fight whom? What would the military and/or police do? Stand back and watch? Anybody that says that is a possibility needs to think about the resources required to fight a war!
Baremine · 70-79, C
@fanuc2013 when you are oppressed you can do amazing things. Look at what is happening in Ukraine. The USA revolution against England. If you are right in God's eyes there are supernatural forces to deal with
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Baremine That is true but the example of the American War of Independence not a very wise one considering what happened on the continent before and for long after that.

Nor very useful to anyone who even if believing in the Judaeo-Christian God, does not make Him/Her/It a very partisan version!
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
@Baremine Ukraine had considerable resources before the russian invasion, including many Ukrainians that served in the russian armed forces years ago, and Ukraine has the support of many other nations, so that is not a civil war! The American revolution against England was not a civil war either, and the weaponry was not nearly as sophisticated then as it is now. Both sides were similarly armed. Now the American Civil War was of course, a civil war, but it was fought between armies raised in individual States that threw their allegiance to one side or the other, and also both sides were similarly armed.
Wiseacre · F
Could happen overnight!
zerofuks2give · 41-45, M
Not close enough imo
Baremine · 70-79, C
@fanuc2013 so what is your point.. I am well aware of what the USAF has for weapons as I was a weapons specialist. Brings up another point. All of the veterans that uncle Sam trained. Could be more even than you think.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Baremine Could be a whole lot less than you think. It's veterans, not citizens, who are suggesting Flynn be shot for treason.
SW-User
The Untied States :(
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Play Dixie once again
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
More likely a world war.
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
I still am wondering what unites the United States.

From the responses, people love their left-leaning and hate the right, or love their right-leaning and hate the left more than they love their country.
SW-User
I do not think it is close. I certainly do not think another war will be fought to keep the union intact. I can see a "Balkanization" of the U.S. in which states do finally become individual nations.
GrinNude · 61-69, C
Why is it that our Creator endowed us with free will, but evangelical Christians want to take it away?
Peapod · 61-69, F
I have voiced this out loud to some people close to me. Our country is not in a good way.
malizz · 70-79, M
The US have been steadily militarising the police for a long time.
it's already happened with all those mass shooting lol
The elites wish..
ain’t gunna happen.
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
We are in a civil war already
MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
Oh I wish I was in the land of cotton... 😗🎶
Yeah, you better get right on that.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
The Canadian plan:

GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
Not close at all
Really · 80-89, M
@Really
@ NerdyPotato: Can you articulate your theory about this imagined agenda?
Obviously not.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Like 1-10. I’d say about a 2.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
Its already a political war going on. Does that count. 🙂
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
@Zonuss There always has been! It's just the language is worse now!
REMsleep · 41-45, F
Ridiculous question. There will be no civil war.
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@REMsleep Yes, it's a ridiculous question with a ridiculous agenda attached to it.
Really · 80-89, M
@GrinNude
a ridiculous question with a ridiculous agenda attached to it.
Can you articulate your theory about this imagined agenda?
MonaReeves86 · 36-40, F
Over my body
SW-User
Never happen while the nutcases keep selling their guns to school kids
Baremine · 70-79, C
@SW-User and who is selling guns to school kids? What is wrong with a kid knowing how and when to use a gun. I got my first rifle when I was ten. Teach proper gun training, stop abortion and put value on human life.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Baremine "Value on human life..." Errrr, fine. Why do children -or indeed anyone - need guns designed to end lives, then? Are you in an interminable circle of fear?

I don't think your country will descend into civil war, but the more you all talk up the problem the greater the risk of deeply un-"civil" unrest, violence and death by bullet.

 
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