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HotMessExpress102 · 41-45, F
If you were Kyle... would you have lied down in the street??? What would you have done?
@HotMessExpress102 It is indeed.
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@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Great post. Thanks bud.

JesseInTX · 51-55, M
We learned that 12 people can drown out the biased media and Democrats who convicted him within hours of the incident, and carefully review the evidence and testimony, apply it to the law and reach the correct verdict.
JesseInTX · 51-55, M
@NativePortlander1970 at first Biden told reporters he respected the verdict of the jury and then an hour later released a statement saying he’s confused and angry about the verdict. He is an utter embarrassment to this country.
@JesseInTX Very interesting coming from the puppet of one of the strongest and richest corporations, DuPont, that made its fortunes off the manufacture and sale of gun powder, a corporation so powerful that DC's main beltway is called DuPont Circle.
@NativePortlander1970 DuPont Circle's name is a corruption of the meteorological term, "dew point." There used to be a weather vane and other meteorological devices at that location. Dew Point Circle became DuPont Circle.
JimBeam · M
[quote]So what did we learn from the Rittenhouse trial?[/quote]

[b]Don't chase a guy with an AR-15?

Those three idiot felons would still be alive if they followed that rule. [/b]
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@NativePortlander1970

Well, I'm not surprised BLM wants to disassociate itself from Antifa, and I have nothing against peaceful protests as long as they really remain peaceful.
But I also so plenty of videos of black people at night, looting and burning stores. Now admittedly, they weren't wearing BLM badges, so I'm sure BLM can claim "it wasn't us!"
@Thinkerbell Exactly, more like members of the New Black Panthers, another group BLM wants nothing to do with.
OggggO · 36-40, M
@Majorsite Please, list exactly what Biden has done that could have had any direct effect on inflation.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
I learned that if you bring an AK to the streets instead of play video games like most normal 17 year olds, are part of a right wing militia who called you to the streets and put yourself in a position to have to kill others.. you are not responsible for your actions. But that's only if you're conservative and white, if you're a liberal, they'd hang you.. particularly if you're black.

So that's what I learned and I'm not being sarcastic, this is my lesson from this.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@IronHamster Okay well it's there for everyone to plainly see that there were other reasons for those shootings, not one case was your boogeyman. I'm not going to read those cases and then make up a bunch of stuff that isn't there, I posted what actually happened and I'm sorry you can't accept that.

But hey, since you care so much about racism, how about that incident in CHOP where the Proud Boys called a man the N word near the Seattle zone and promptly shot them.

That was terrible wasn't it?

You should denounce the Proud Boys since you feel so strongly about racism.

Go ahead. I'm waiting.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@SatanBurger White people made the majority of the CHOP. The fact that Antifa only shot black people PROVES Antifa is systematically racist.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@IronHamster I provided link to your claims and they mostly turned out to be either personal feuds, two didn't report on who did it, two were shot for stealing a car at knifepoint or people who drove into protesters to hurt them. I knew if I asked you outright you would just straw man so I wanted to show you who the victims were and what happened.

Now that I've proven you wrong, I'll bite and ask to show some type of evidence, so show it.
Coffeequilt · 51-55, F
Maybe that "peaceful" protests that involve burning and looting, may be met with "peaceful" consequences
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Slade

Thank you.

Slade · 56-60, M
@Thinkerbell Careful, pics of his Lenin will give him a stiffy.

Might even cause his balls to drop - even before Moochele Obama's
Slade · 56-60, M
@Thinkerbell As always, my favorite fairy! 👍
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
NoahB · 26-30, M
@sunsporter1649 posting some boobs bc im bored [image]
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Hmmm ... if there is a lesson learned, it's that when there is an episode of police misconduct, it doesn't give some people a right to destroy the city and the property of innocent people. And, if the politicians that run the city, county and state don't take the immediate steps to protect their city and the property of the innocent, expect that the locals who do love their city to step in and try to protect their city from those trying to destroy it. And, if those who are trying to burn down their city threaten the lives of those trying to protect their city, then using deadly force to defend oneself is justified.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
This is Best Comment. Humanity has gone out the window.@Heartlander
JimBeam · M
@Keepitsimple

I agree. Best comment.
@Heartlander Where was the police misconduct?
Perhaps the lesson should be don't riot and threaten people's lives and you may live.
SW-User
@PrivateHell Simply, elegantly, and correctly stated. Well said.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
You have a right to defend yourself
BlueVeins · 22-25
@HoraceGreenley this is like the only time i've ever agreed with you.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@BlueVeins It's a Thanksgiving miracle
MarineBob · 56-60, M
It shows that just because you have a diploma that says you're a lawyer doesn't mean you are a good one.
JesseInTX · 51-55, M
@Nudistsue26 it’s obvious that @Carlisle didn’t see any of the trial and has an aversion to facts and evidence. We’ve hurt her feelings so let’s let her retire to her “safe space”.
Nudistsue26 · 31-35, F
@JesseInTX Yeah. I agree
TexChik · F
@Carlisle sorry that wasnt what happened.
Carlisle · F
We learnt it’s ok to kill people. Because it’s your fault if you approach an armed person.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@Oberon1 no shit. The little wannabe fascist got off. Doesn't change what he did was wrong. I hope the victims families sue the little shit into insolvency.
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@basilfawlty89 Ah, I get it, self defense is not permitted in your fascist world, eh?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
What the members of SW aren't talking about here. Kyle Rittenhouse killed 3 [b]Jewish[/b] men. Wisconsin is a very racially charged and tensed state. Rittenhouse has extremist views when it comes to politics and that is no secret. His Right Wing affiliations and ideology gave him the motivation to react during that riot. Was it self defense ? Of course it was. But it was also instigated. And we must remember that. 🙂
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@Zonuss Wow!
Talk about a[b][c=003BB2] stretch![/c][/b] No dude. BLM made sure to piss off the whole country with their bullying and destruction. I remember the idiots trying to force the non-involved to raise their fists. Oh yeah! BLM got a lot of whiteys on their side by harassing, vandalizing, burning, looting, beating, and killing people who had no idea WTF was going on. BLM was / is nothing but a scam. Somebody got multiple mansions in the whole mess! Gosh oh golly!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@IronHamster Fake news. ☺️
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@Oberon1 Yeah. Pretty typical of social justice warriors. They travel to other cities to burn down black businesses and kill black people in the name of racism. No shit.
I can't speak for "We" but for me personally, it's an affirmation for why my goal is to relocate to Puerto Vallarta Mexico for the rest of my life.

I can no longer live in a country where hatred, bigotry, and "Kangaroo courts" are the order of the day.
@SW-User You too my friend, you too!
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@QuixoticSoul I surfed sayulita many years ago
It was the first time I drove over a time zone at the time
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Grateful4you northern Baja
Panama City
Tamarindo costa rica
Cartagena Colombia
Etc..
Really, its just an individual jury verdict, and this kid got off.

I'd love it if we learned something about some really screwed up laws like the initial aggressor docrine and self defense and started talking about why they present problems, but i doubt that's going to happen.

More likely, we'll be coping with a license to hunt, open carry, and racial stuff, which this case really shouldn't have been about for the jury.
NoahB · 26-30, M
@MistyCee fair assessment i'd say
@MistyCee People also need to just learn what self defense is.
TexChik · F
The lesson is angry mobs of felons cant chase down innocent people and kill them. Americans are still allowed to defend themselves .
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
America can't get it's s**t together and agree on anything.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@SW-User You asked me to agree to your premise setting the table to mandate how everyone should behave. I don't intend to have you dictate my behaviour. Are we clear?
SW-User
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@SW-User Yeah, that's obvious based on your comments. We call this behaviour of yours cognitive dissonance.
Ravens80 · 46-50, F
@zerofuks2give 2 for 3 on making America a better place
zerofuks2give · 41-45, M
@Ravens80 definitely
zerofuks2give · 41-45, M
DownTheStreet · 51-55, M
Perhaps if politicians enabled the police to do their jobs, instead of standing back and doing nothing while Antifa riots and destroys stuff, citizens wouldn’t be compelled to take matters into their own hands.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@DownTheStreet on the other hand, Police incompetence created that situation to begin with.
NoahB · 26-30, M
@QuixoticSoul makes ya think
Snuffy1957 · 61-69, M
We learned that the Second Amendment is a right and so is protecting yourself...
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire But you are OK with a felon illegally concealing a pistol then trying to shoot a child with it, eh?
Snuffy1957 · 61-69, M
@IronHamster Apparently that is the case...
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That there's a clear bias from supporters of Rittenhouse. Everyone Rittenhouse decided to shoot will be said to have been violent in some way shape or form, even if it's clearly the opposite
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Babylon You're whole premise is biased, I suggest you do more research on what happened and answer your biased questions on your own.

Of course I'm "biased", I'm a human being, what you're really asking is if my biases line up with yours... based on that question, they dont.
@SumKindaMunster that's a pretty odd deflection to answering the question but that's okay

I don't know why Rittenhouse's supporters struggle to criticize his poor decisions 🤷🏾‍♂️
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Babylon Likely because its irrelevant to the actions he was charged with, yet the indoctrinated cannot stop obsessing over bullshit minutiae straight from the bullshit MSM and demanding a purity test imposed upon Rittenhouse decisions, and actions that you aren't applying to the people he killed, nor the media and culture for pushing a bullshit narrative about white supremacy that could have gotten Rittenhouse imprisoned or killed.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Hell, they couldn't even charge the kid with the misdemeanor crime of a curfew violation
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@Zonuss should the state appeal on grounds of inept prosecutors
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@MarineBob Civil suit is next said the family of Huber. This was a reckless move on the part of a politically charged vigilante.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@Zonuss Hubor's family should pay Rittenhouse one third the trial expenses and a million in emotional trauma.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
We learned that our white supremacist justice system works as intended. If Rittenhouse had been black no way he’d have gotten away with this.
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@Theyitis [b][c=BF0000]Remember. Random people were fed evidence from both sides of the issue, and, even though, it was a big risk for them, they unanimously decided to deliver a "not guilty" verdict. Think about the time the trial took, and then think about the time the deliberation took. Can you really still cling to the lies of the chronic liars who want violence and destruction?[/c][/b]
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Theyitis Do you even know what a "straw man" argument is?

[quote] I already explained to you why 4 is wrong[/quote]

You believe you know more about Wisconsin gun laws than the judge who oversaw this case?
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@Theyitis The video evidence alone should have facilitated a quick decision not to press charges in the first place!
SmartKat · 56-60, F
You got it. 👍🏻

Also, the same people who get away with everything will continue to get away with everything.
BlueVeins · 22-25
Nothing, we learned literally nothing.
SW-User
@Oberon1 Sounds almost exactly like an old dynamic I had with somebody. That's a good thing to have there, mate. I knew you were a nice guy. I know the feeling of being complete opposites even if I'm a more meet in the middle type, but it is often taken to mean something else, y'know? Like I don't care enough or something, but I do care actually - too much sometimes.

It just sucks when people can't just set some stuff aside for the bigger picture or concede a good point or go sniping without wanting to respect a genuinely different viewpoint. That drives me nuts. It does get frustrating so then I just remind myself everyone is set in their ways I guess. I feel like meaningful dialogue is dying.

Also I know i myself have trolled or thrown some ridiculous things out there. that is as much just to see what happens and then I get bored so i do apologise about that. but I can tell when someone is trying just to 'score a point' at my or someone else's expense if you catch my drift. It is in the politicians' interest to keep everybody divided. Never forget that. You are actually a lot more powerful together. that is in your interest.

Left and right voters should never stay estranged even if it seems that way now. They should always work together. 🤞
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@SW-User The problem arises when one group sees the other group as a threat to their religion, culture, gender, ethnicity, politics, identity, family, possessions, person, or patriotism. 😆 (Such trifles should surely be put aside easily enough!) When that happens, is when we dehumanize each other in preparation for eventual dispatch! We've been doing this for 50 some odd thousand years or so according to anthropologists.
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Oberon1 · 61-69, M
That there are still people in this country who will do the right thing even if it's dangerous.
NoahB · 26-30, M
@JesseInTX oh yeah. the US military would never be described as a violent mob by anyone. you're very smart.
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NoahB · 26-30, M
@JesseInTX yee-haw
Zonuss · 41-45, M
Once again. This trial proved it's ok to be an armed civilian and invite or invite violence. The truth is that Kyle Rittenhouse went outside knowing he could and would kill someone trying to protect themselves from his vigilante behavior. This sets a dangerous precedent for America. And it may very well encourage more unnecessary violence towards protestors who are operating within the law.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@GerOttman

The unwritten law that says the MSM will do all it can to protect the rioters, either by omission or by outright lying.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Thinkerbell The unwritten law says it's ok to kill someone trying to protect themselves from you. A vigilante or wannabe cop.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Zonuss

For your edification (not that you are edifiable): 😂😂😂

https://similarworlds.com/life/4129689-Here-are-the-myths-vs-the-facts-surrounding-the
JimBeam · M
[quote]So what did we learn from the Rittenhouse trial?[/quote]

[b]Don't bring a skateboard to a gunfight?[/b]

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TexChik · F
@JimBeam 😂
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
Have a defense team that is good and stupid prosecutors and a jury who takes their duty seriously and it’s cake.
SW-User
@JimBeam So true. If you need a child rapist as a patron saint, your movement lacks credibility.
JimBeam · M
@SW-User

LMFAO
Slade · 56-60, M
@Oberon1 Comcast property
@Oberon1 Once Rittenhouse collects all the money from everyone that slandered and libeled him, including Biden, he is going to be a billionaire.
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@NativePortlander1970 Unfortunately Biden can just say "opinion" and beat it, but the MSM sure can't do that!
@Oberon1 Even saying opinion is not good enough when it comes to slander.
PrincessAwesome · 22-25, F
Apparently, it's legal to shoot left-wing protesters.
PrincessAwesome · 22-25, F
@JimBeam Well I'm sure the Fashies don't care about that. They'll kill any protester that they disagree with.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@PrincessAwesome Wrong! It's legal to defend yourself with deadly force if you believe your life is in danger, its asinine to state someone's political beliefs have anything to do with the matter.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@PrincessAwesome Fashies? You high on your own farts or something?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
It kinda gives more fuel to the idea that America is pretty fucked up.
The comments in all these Rittenhouse posts, kinda backs up that idea too.
babieseatcrap · 41-45, M
@zerofuks2give he is a lefty now for sure
LonelyMan · M
We learned that sometimes juries get it right, and that the prosecution made fools of themselves trying to railroad this poor kid.
Peapod · 61-69, F
I've learned that fake tears work for some people on trial for murder.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@spjennifer Um. I tell you what. Let me point a loaded pistol at you, after you sign a release that I can shoot you with impunity, and how safe will you feel, knowing you might be on your last breath.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@IronHamster Hmm, well with over 35 years in the Military and multiple deployments to war zones, I've had many weapons pointed at me and been shot at and shot so yeah, go ahead and point a loaded weapon at me, but don't fucking miss. I still have more brains than to steal a weapon and go into a riot thinking i'm GI fucking Joe. We saw lots of stupid kids like him with exactly the same attitude go home in a flag draped coffin...
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TexChik · F
That the constitution is still intact, That the land of the free still has some evidence of freedom, that an angry crowd criminals are not allowed to chase you down and kill you , that the socialist regime tried to make this case in the media rather than in the court room , because they knew they didnt have the evidence.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
TexChik · F
@Thinkerbell So very true.
@TexChik spot on.
SW-User
That America is a batshit crazy, lawless country. Full of hopelessness and greed.
SW-User
@NativePortlander1970 That was a long time ago... we have become more civilised since then. I wouldn't expect you to understand. Maybe when your country progresses a bit you will get it.
@SW-User Idiot
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Driver2 · M
That the democrats lost some votes that night ?
SW-User
We learned that legal trials should not be a fucking show… they’re not entertainment, we don’t have all the facts and end of day it’s nobody’s business outside of that court room
SW-User
@MarineBob I mean they likely should have, I just think American individualism wouldn’t allow for that
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@SW-User doesn't matter the judge alone sets the rules for his court
SW-User
@MarineBob fair enough, I’m definitely not an expert lol
SW-User
Don't threaten a 17 year old kid with death.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
As you can see the Far Right lunatics on this site are barking the loudest. They know they are losing. Their own ways have weakened their resolve and has left them with an inevitable transparency. So no need to worry my Liberal and Moderate friends. We are here to stay. 🙂🇺🇲
HotMessExpress102 · 41-45, F
@Oberon1 You... are... AMAZING!!!
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@HotMessExpress102 Yeah...... I get that a lot. 😁
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@HotMessExpress102 Wow! So are you! You should be famous! 😍
spjennifer · 56-60, T
We learned that a minor, who had no business being where he was, carrying a weapon he had no legal right to carry, can shoot 3 people and get away with it, plain and simple.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@SumKindaMunster I'm sure you support other mass shooters too who had every right to be there with their guns, killing people, speaking of boring 🥱 The peaceful protesters did have every right to be there, the violent ones, no.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@spjennifer Congratulations this the dumbest reply I've ever gotten.

Let me highlight so I can admire your ignorance.

[quote] The peaceful protesters did have every right to be there, the violent ones, no. [/quote] 🤣🤣🤣
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@SumKindaMunster Aww, I'm so touched, coming from an idiot like you that is indeed high praise 😆
DownTheStreet · 51-55, M
Do you really think that’s it? Study the law, it was applied as written, the prosecution confused politics with law.
Human1000 · M
@DownTheStreet Agree, and unfortunately “the law is an ass.”
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@DownTheStreet all the broke woke folk are doing the same thing. Rule of law be damned! They refuse to accept that this was a trial about 'self defense' vs 'murder' and not social justice du jour.
Takeaway: If you want to kill somebody, do it in Wisconsin. You can simply claim self- defense and get off.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays That's bad advice, if you want to shoot someone in WI you have to make sure you're right leaning and work for a militia. It's only under those circumstances that you'll get the patriotic crowd to do literally anything. It only works if you have specific traits.
@SatanBurger It's like trying to overturn an election. It only works if you're right leaning and your supporters belong to militias. Funny thing how those two things are related.
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@SatanBurger Lies, but there is no sense in pointing that out since lies are the SOP for proglodytes.
SW-User
Just remember that our justice totally hates black people you guys. There's no equality in outcome. Ever.

Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
Conservatives are allowed to kill us, just like cops.
NoahB · 26-30, M
@Stopmakingsense well in fairness, cops are allowed to kill everyone.
iamelijah · 26-30, M
Nothing bothers me but a kid walking with deadly weapon.

I think everyone is going to be vigilante.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@NativePortlander1970 Interesting. I will switch my ammo out. Two shots Remington Golden Sabre, followed by AP.

In 1994, we were debating hip and groin shots to combat the growing popularity of Kevlar. I don't think that ever took off.
@IronHamster One of my course classmates brought that up, the instructor said that deliberate groin shots in combat is considered an unwritten rule to never do, and said it should be a part of the Geneva Convention.
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babieseatcrap · 41-45, M
that people get dumb in a group and some don't learn to stop what they are doing and think until they see someone get blown away in front of them. anyone that dumb should be dead
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@babieseatcrap Darwin in action. Survival of the fittest, and WE are winning!
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@SW-User People are going to take that game-show orientation no matter what because it's entertaining to them. I think televising the proceedings is useful even at the risk of it being turned into sound-bite propaganda for any side to argue their point of view.
NoahB · 26-30, M
@SW-User that’s fair. It’s a fairly stupid trial from all sides
Heartlander · 80-89, M
One thing to think about is that Rittenhouse had an excellent defense lawyer who did a great job at exposing the political motives of the prosecutors and keeping the prosecutor's lack of evidence at the forefront.

What would have happened if Rittenhouse had been represented by a court appointed attorney?
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@Heartlander anytime a defence attorney can get the prosecutions witnesses to change sides on the stand it's not that one attorney is smart it's just that one is either stupid or threw the case on purpose
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@MarineBob :) ... there were a few times when I thought Binger may have been intentionally trying to throw the case. Like a quarterback fading back and back to get beyond field goal range before being sacked. But then he just retreated to an attempt at an emotional hail mary. At one point it looked like he simply handed the judge a good reason for a mistrial.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Heartlander I like the QB analogy .

 
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