So what did we learn from the Rittenhouse trial?
Because it feels like the lesson is 'shoot back'. Is the law really going to rule "Last one alive is innocent"?
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zerofuks2give · 41-45, M
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@zerofuks2give That's funny, because Kyle was fuсking around, going across state lines with a big old rifle in full sight, presumably with the intent of pissing off protesters. He literally, legitimately wanted to provoke them into a fight so that he would be justified in shooting a couple of them.
zerofuks2give · 41-45, M
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@zerofuks2give I'm sorry. Are you saying he WASN'T looking for trouble by intentionally bringing a bigass gun to watch a protest all of his family and friends had told him was put on by a bunch of violent thugs?
Seems to me if you bring a gun to a protest you think is run by thugs, you're expecting them to respond to that with violence.
Seems to me if you bring a gun to a protest you think is run by thugs, you're expecting them to respond to that with violence.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@zerofuks2give, @LordShadowfire is our local Dunning Kruger racist Antifa commentator. He's always got stupid shit to say.
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@IronHamster I'm not the one defending a white supremacist who took a gun across state lines to shoot protesters.
By the way, dipshit, have you had any luck finding evidence that you have spies within the so-called ANTIFA organization?
By the way, dipshit, have you had any luck finding evidence that you have spies within the so-called ANTIFA organization?
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire You are defending the white supremacist organization Antifa, which is responsible for more black murders this year than the KKK has committed in the last fifty. Antifa is winning the race war.
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@IronHamster So no evidence.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire Antifa are the criminals.
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@IronHamster [quote]Idiot.[/quote]
If that's how you want to self identify.
Meanwhile, I'll be waiting for the evidence, which I'm sure is forthcoming. Because you wouldn't lie about something like being part of an organization that has spies in the Antifa ranks, right? You know that would make you look like a total moron. So I'm sure you've got evidence to back it up.
If that's how you want to self identify.
Meanwhile, I'll be waiting for the evidence, which I'm sure is forthcoming. Because you wouldn't lie about something like being part of an organization that has spies in the Antifa ranks, right? You know that would make you look like a total moron. So I'm sure you've got evidence to back it up.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire Back up your claims with evidence. You ain't got shit.
zerofuks2give · 41-45, M
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@zerofuks2give Amazing how I can fire into a group of Trump supporters and find a racist, a sexist, and a moron. And that's just the first guy I shoot.
zerofuks2give · 41-45, M
@LordShadowfire still better than a pedo 🤷🏻♂️
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@zerofuks2give So you admit y'all are racists, sexists, and morons. Good. That's a good first step.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire I admit Antifa are racist fascists that are documented to kill black people.
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LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@IronHamster [quote]Back up your claims with evidence. You ain't got shit.[/quote]
Again, I'm not the one claiming to be part of an organization that has spies in the so-called ANTIFA organization. That is literally you.
[quote] I admit Antifa are racist fascists that are documented to kill black people.[/quote]
@zerofuks2give [quote]who tf is y’all? I’m independent. 😂😂😂[/quote]
This must be some bizarre new definition of the word independent with which I'm not familiar.
Again, I'm not the one claiming to be part of an organization that has spies in the so-called ANTIFA organization. That is literally you.
[quote] I admit Antifa are racist fascists that are documented to kill black people.[/quote]
@zerofuks2give [quote]who tf is y’all? I’m independent. 😂😂😂[/quote]
This must be some bizarre new definition of the word independent with which I'm not familiar.
@zerofuks2give Neoliberals, us true Liberals want them eliminated as much you all too.
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@NativePortlander1970 There are six falsehoods about the case that far too many people believe are true, even after they've been proven false.
[b][c=BF0000]1. He killed two black BLM protesters. All three of the men he shot in self-defense during violent riots in Kenosha on Aug. 25 last year were white.
2. He crossed state lines. He lived 20 miles from Kenosha in Antioch, Ill., with his mother and sisters. But his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle, cousins and best friend live in Kenosha. He had a job as a lifeguard in Kenosha and worked a shift on Aug. 25 before helping clean graffiti left by rioters at a local school. There, he and his friend were invited to join other adults who had been asked by the owners of a used car lot in Kenosha to guard the property after 100 cars had been torched the previous night, when police abandoned the town to rioters. Kyle took his gun to protect himself, since the rioters were violent and armed, including, for instance, Antifa medic Gaige Grosskreutz, who lunged at him with a loaded Glock pointed at his head before he was shot in the arm.
Kyle Rittenhouse carries a weapon as he walks along Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Kyle Rittenhouse rightfully defended the Kenosha community while legally possessing an AR-15 rifle.
Adam Rogan/The Journal Times via AP)
Footage shows Kyle Rittenhouse defending himself from angry rioters on Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin during the riots.
Footage shows Kyle Rittenhouse defending himself from angry rioters on Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin, during the riots.
YouTube
3. Rittenhouse took an AR-15 across state lines. Esquire accused him of “terrorist tourism.” False. His rifle was kept in a safe at his best friend’s stepfather’s house in Kenosha.
4. The gun was illegal. Wrong. Under Wisconsin law, he was entitled to possess the AR-15 as a 17-year-old. The judge dismissed the gun charge, which the prosecution never should have brought.
5. Rittenhouse’s mother drove him across state lines to the riot. Wendy Rittenhouse, 46, never went to Kenosha. She slept late the morning of Aug. 25 after working a 16-hour shift at a nursing home near her home in Antioch, she told the Chicago Tribune. Kyle had already gone to his job in Kenosha when she woke up.
Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger holds Kyle Rittenhouse's gun as he gives the state's closing argument during the trial.
Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger holds Kyle Rittenhouse’s gun as he gives the state’s closing argument during the trial.
Sean Krajacic/The Kenosha News via AP, Pool
6. He was an “active shooter” who took his gun to a riot looking for trouble. “A 17-year-old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters,” said MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, “who drove across state lines with an AR-15 and started shooting people up.” On Friday, after evidence in court already had debunked his talking points, Scarborough called Rittenhouse a “self-appointed militia member … unloading 60 rounds.” When the defense called out the lie in closing arguments, Scarborough had the gall to tweet that he was “embarrassed” for the lawyer.
7. Rittenhouse is a “white supremacist,” as then-candidate Joe Biden labeled him in a tweet showing the teenager’s photograph. When White House press secretary Jen Psaki was asked to explain why recently, she slyly slimed Rittenhouse again, without naming him, as a “vigilante.”
A tear rolls down the cheek of Gaige Grosskreutz as he testifies about being shot in the right bicep, during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Gaige Grosskreutz was not a “victim” after testifying that he provided aid as a trained medic to Black Lives Matter protesters amid the Kenosha riots.
Mark Hertzberg/Pool Photo via AP
In one story, the Intercept used the term “white supremacist” 16 times. The accusation has become holy writ, but there is zero evidence. The FBI scoured Kyle’s phone and found nothing about white supremacy or militias, the court heard. All they saw were pro-police, “Blue Lives Matter” posts from a kid who had been a police and fire department cadet, wanted to be a police officer or paramedic and once sat near the front of a Trump rally. That was enough for the media to brand him a white supremacist.
8. He “flashed white power signs” with Proud Boys. After spending three months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th birthday last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults, which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar, who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the OK sign with his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist sign comes from a 2017 hoax on the website 4chan, to punk liberals, who keep falling for it. Biden uses the gesture frequently. It was unwise to pose for the photo, but it does not mean Kyle is associated with white supremacists.
9. He wore surgical gloves “to cover his fingerprints.” This pearl was spread by Matthew Modine, another celebrity bigmouth. Kyle wore gloves because he was giving first aid to protesters. His face was bare, so he was hardly hiding.
Kyle RIttenhouse (left)
The liberal media and then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden smeared Kyle Rittenhouse as a “white supremacist.”
Wendy Rittenhouse, Kyle Rittenhouse's mother.
Wendy Rittenhouse, Kyle’s mother, was not present with her son when he traveled to Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Sean Krajacic/The Kenosha News via AP, Pool
10. Judge Bruce Schroeder is a “Trumpy” racist biased toward the defense. This slur is based on the fact he would not let the prosecution use the term “victim” — common practice when the jury has not ruled on a case. He told a lame joke about Asian food for lunch being held up by the supply-chain crisis, and his phone’s ring tone sounds like a 1980s ditty played at Trump rallies. Ridiculous. In fact, Schroeder is a Democrat, has run as a Democrat for the Wisconsin Senate and was first appointed by a Democratic governor. Bias was also perceived in what the Chicago Tribune said was his “highly unusual” decision to allow Kyle to draw names randomly out of a container at the end of the trial to determine which 12 of the 18 jurors would decide his fate. It’s something this judge always does, he told the court.
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[b][c=BF0000]1. He killed two black BLM protesters. All three of the men he shot in self-defense during violent riots in Kenosha on Aug. 25 last year were white.
2. He crossed state lines. He lived 20 miles from Kenosha in Antioch, Ill., with his mother and sisters. But his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle, cousins and best friend live in Kenosha. He had a job as a lifeguard in Kenosha and worked a shift on Aug. 25 before helping clean graffiti left by rioters at a local school. There, he and his friend were invited to join other adults who had been asked by the owners of a used car lot in Kenosha to guard the property after 100 cars had been torched the previous night, when police abandoned the town to rioters. Kyle took his gun to protect himself, since the rioters were violent and armed, including, for instance, Antifa medic Gaige Grosskreutz, who lunged at him with a loaded Glock pointed at his head before he was shot in the arm.
Kyle Rittenhouse carries a weapon as he walks along Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Kyle Rittenhouse rightfully defended the Kenosha community while legally possessing an AR-15 rifle.
Adam Rogan/The Journal Times via AP)
Footage shows Kyle Rittenhouse defending himself from angry rioters on Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin during the riots.
Footage shows Kyle Rittenhouse defending himself from angry rioters on Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin, during the riots.
YouTube
3. Rittenhouse took an AR-15 across state lines. Esquire accused him of “terrorist tourism.” False. His rifle was kept in a safe at his best friend’s stepfather’s house in Kenosha.
4. The gun was illegal. Wrong. Under Wisconsin law, he was entitled to possess the AR-15 as a 17-year-old. The judge dismissed the gun charge, which the prosecution never should have brought.
5. Rittenhouse’s mother drove him across state lines to the riot. Wendy Rittenhouse, 46, never went to Kenosha. She slept late the morning of Aug. 25 after working a 16-hour shift at a nursing home near her home in Antioch, she told the Chicago Tribune. Kyle had already gone to his job in Kenosha when she woke up.
Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger holds Kyle Rittenhouse's gun as he gives the state's closing argument during the trial.
Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger holds Kyle Rittenhouse’s gun as he gives the state’s closing argument during the trial.
Sean Krajacic/The Kenosha News via AP, Pool
6. He was an “active shooter” who took his gun to a riot looking for trouble. “A 17-year-old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters,” said MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, “who drove across state lines with an AR-15 and started shooting people up.” On Friday, after evidence in court already had debunked his talking points, Scarborough called Rittenhouse a “self-appointed militia member … unloading 60 rounds.” When the defense called out the lie in closing arguments, Scarborough had the gall to tweet that he was “embarrassed” for the lawyer.
7. Rittenhouse is a “white supremacist,” as then-candidate Joe Biden labeled him in a tweet showing the teenager’s photograph. When White House press secretary Jen Psaki was asked to explain why recently, she slyly slimed Rittenhouse again, without naming him, as a “vigilante.”
A tear rolls down the cheek of Gaige Grosskreutz as he testifies about being shot in the right bicep, during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Gaige Grosskreutz was not a “victim” after testifying that he provided aid as a trained medic to Black Lives Matter protesters amid the Kenosha riots.
Mark Hertzberg/Pool Photo via AP
In one story, the Intercept used the term “white supremacist” 16 times. The accusation has become holy writ, but there is zero evidence. The FBI scoured Kyle’s phone and found nothing about white supremacy or militias, the court heard. All they saw were pro-police, “Blue Lives Matter” posts from a kid who had been a police and fire department cadet, wanted to be a police officer or paramedic and once sat near the front of a Trump rally. That was enough for the media to brand him a white supremacist.
8. He “flashed white power signs” with Proud Boys. After spending three months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th birthday last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults, which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar, who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the OK sign with his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist sign comes from a 2017 hoax on the website 4chan, to punk liberals, who keep falling for it. Biden uses the gesture frequently. It was unwise to pose for the photo, but it does not mean Kyle is associated with white supremacists.
9. He wore surgical gloves “to cover his fingerprints.” This pearl was spread by Matthew Modine, another celebrity bigmouth. Kyle wore gloves because he was giving first aid to protesters. His face was bare, so he was hardly hiding.
Kyle RIttenhouse (left)
The liberal media and then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden smeared Kyle Rittenhouse as a “white supremacist.”
Wendy Rittenhouse, Kyle Rittenhouse's mother.
Wendy Rittenhouse, Kyle’s mother, was not present with her son when he traveled to Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Sean Krajacic/The Kenosha News via AP, Pool
10. Judge Bruce Schroeder is a “Trumpy” racist biased toward the defense. This slur is based on the fact he would not let the prosecution use the term “victim” — common practice when the jury has not ruled on a case. He told a lame joke about Asian food for lunch being held up by the supply-chain crisis, and his phone’s ring tone sounds like a 1980s ditty played at Trump rallies. Ridiculous. In fact, Schroeder is a Democrat, has run as a Democrat for the Wisconsin Senate and was first appointed by a Democratic governor. Bias was also perceived in what the Chicago Tribune said was his “highly unusual” decision to allow Kyle to draw names randomly out of a container at the end of the trial to determine which 12 of the 18 jurors would decide his fate. It’s something this judge always does, he told the court.
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Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@NativePortlander1970 Unfortunately Biden can just say "opinion" and beat it, but the MSM sure can't do that!