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Is being trans a mental illness?

Is being a transsexual and or transgender a mental illness? Discuss.

(Disclosure): I mean mental illness in the same sense as any mental illness such as ADD, ADHD, OCD, all the way to schizophrenia. I’m not using the term mental illness as in a brainless nut job.

Please keep this civil.

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Spokeskitties75 · 46-50, M Best Comment

I try to live by two things... live and let live and two... who am I to think and judge anyone for anything! Everyone has to live their own life and do what makes them happy... and as long as they are good people... and not hurting anyone... let everyone be who they are... because that’s all I want from society... is to be myself.

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TakingBackMidgard · 31-35, M

@Spokeskitties75 exactly my friend! Regardless of our religion, beliefs, political side, sex, gender, race etc. It should not matter. We should always meet people with postitivity. (There are exceptions obviously)

Never should someone assume that:

Christians and atheists
Muslims and Jewish
Blacks and whites
Men and women
Conservative and liberals are enemies.

If that is the case said person should just empty their mind and approach people and get to know them

SunSurf · 46-50, F

@Spokeskitties75 your the kind of soul I want to be around!

Spokeskitties75 · 46-50, M

@TakingBackMidgard @SunSurf well thank you... life is too short as it is... to be caught up in what other people are doing with their lives. If everyone just stopped and observed... they would find out they would have more in common with people and learn fascinating things that they never expected! Thank you for the BA

ShaythePanTransMan · 22-25, T

No, not at all. The only thing is that being trans gives you more of a risk of getting/having mental illnesses. Thanks for posting this question so I can continue blocking transphobes.

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ShaythePanTransMan · 22-25, T

@Elizabeth28 I'm a guy. Says it right in my fucking profile name.

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TakingBackMidgard · 31-35, M

I am proud of this group for keeping this civil and explaining their thoughts. This goes to show we as humans can discuss sensitive subjects without going at each other’s throats

Elandra77

@TakingBackMidgard Agreed. This was a great post and discussion.

Fernie · F

@TakingBackMidgard I agree...it's nice when we are civil...there's a couple of throats in this thread that I could go for though :>

Graylight · 51-55, F

No, period. Neither the medical nor the psychological community recognize alternate orientation as any kind of clinical disorder or mental illness. Only when it becomes such an issue as the interfere with daily life activities is it a reason for concern, and in almost every instance that has more to do with the way people react to the individual and the biases in society and the individual him or herself.

ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 46-50, M

@Graylight it's not recognized as mental illness [i] anymore[/i]. Coincidentally, when political correctness was taking root, the science suddenly changed

Graylight · 51-55, F

@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP It had nothing to do with political correctness and science, social or otherwise, will never be dictated by pretty words.

dragonfly46 · F

I think the goal with mental illness is finding a cure and after finding what works, living as normal of a life as possible. I dont see a transgender person as someone who needs a cure. They are not ill, they are just human beings like the rest of us.

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Anonymouslyyours86 · 36-40, F

There are some that are mentally ill and there are some for it is a life style @dragonfly46

TakingBackMidgard · 31-35, M

@dragonfly46 I admire your compassion.

Elizabeth28 · TVIP

@Anonymouslyyours86 lifestyle falls more in crossdresser no operation for me ,The rest of them are trully trans and not doing it for drag queen or crossdressing o r ect they are not happy i n there body =trans

Elandra77

No. Thw WHO , the World Health Organizzation recently stated that it was not under ICD-11 which goes into effect soon. It is not to be seen as that . Even the term "dysphoria" may not be accurate in many cases.

https://ilga.org/icd11-depathologizes-trans-gender-diverse-identities

More detailed. Gender incongruence is more correct.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/international-classification-of-diseases

Those that believe that is is are living in a false view of the world as it has not been seen as that since ICD-08 and they are oft shameful to the trans community as they show their outdated views and biases.

TakingBackMidgard · 31-35, M

@Elandra77 I always admire someone who provides credible sources

Elandra77

@TakingBackMidgard I am trans and have been so for 7 or so years and I am NOT SUICIDAL! I am the happiest I have ever been as I am now legally female in every legal way!

Transgender--not ttransex as that involves switching form XX to XY chromosomes and I see that coming in 500-600 years as scientists continue to play god. Not in any lifetime of ours.

Sexuality and gender are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS-- and the medical community has shown that. In LGBT -"LGB" are SEXUAL and sexual choices. T--has to do with gender. NOT sexuality. Sadly I see person after person getting it confused and failing to recognize what medical authorities already have!

And not many get bottom surgery as no insurance PAYS for it. Insurance does pay for top surgery! Plus for many older trans people it is inadvisable to get bottom surgery done as the complications are too great for their age.

I'm a translesbian. A femme lesbian. I'm also a transwomen. Legally female in all documents! I'm TOO OLD for bottom surgery as I am in my 60's!!! An old hippie and flower child! Plus I'm now a gay girl! I love saying that!!!

This is something know about and I know about it first hand. I follow it a LOT!

And yet, try as I may I can't sway the minds of some who see it as something else or who equate sexuality and gender as the same.

I used to feel sorry for them. No more.

Life is far to short to live your life on anyone else's terms!

edistoflyer · 46-50, M

The high rate of suicide within that demographic is one of several indicators. Plus at its core, it's a matter of "I imagine myself to be something other than what I am." For everyone else to pretend they are okay and to go along with their ill imaginings are not helping them.

Anonymouslyyours86 · 36-40, F

Yes I believe it is

Isthisit · F

no it isnt

GoldenWorm · 51-55, M

You can't say keep it civil and post a loaded question. The mere asking as you have is problematic.

And why do you care?

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GoldenWorm · 51-55, M

@Anonymouslyyours86 he said anyone referring to a "loaded question" is retarded. The appropriate use if "retarded" is extremely limited and doesn't include comment sections. I'm about done with explaining things.

Anonymouslyyours86 · 36-40, F

Well then me hearing Gods voice isn’t a mental illness then it’s a life style @GoldenWorm

SW-User

@GoldenWorm I think your opinions on this matter are quite retarded.

calicuz · 51-55, M

No, sexuality has less to do with brain function and more to do with inner soul and feelings

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SunSurf · 46-50, F

@MartinTheFirst you lost me... are you asking if the soul is on the outside?

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@SunSurf .-.

SunSurf · 46-50, F

@MartinTheFirst I am only stating what I as a person believe, but I think if your true to yourself, then it reflects on your soul inner and outwards...

Peppa · 31-35, F

Personally i dont think i can talk on this matter, because i am not trans, nor do i know anyone that is trans. The only thing i can say is there are many people finding confidence to be themselves and where in the past they may have had menral health issues like anxiety and depression those are becoming less because they are more accepted. So with that knowledge I'd say its similar to being straight or gay. You're unfortunately just born in the wrong body, and unlike just dating your sexual preference you have to live with body parts that are not "right". (my understanding is many don't go the full surgery route)

Elizabeth28 · TVIP

Being MTF trans me self i dont see it as a mental illness but Anxiety Depression and Dysphoria can be sen as a mental illness and soem might try to say itsa phase or a mask for some thing deeper .
Transgeder folks feel there body dont match the mental image of them self so they undergo hormones and changes to match everything my 2 cents but ya

TakingBackMidgard · 31-35, M

@Elizabeth28 thank you for the point of view explanation!

AmbivalentFriability · 26-30

I sincerely do not believe that it is.

jetpack

Of course it is. Anyone who would want to remove parts of their body to fit their preconceived delusion is mentally ill. Doctors that enable this should have their license revoked to practice.

MarmeeMarch · M

most of the so called mental illnesses that are defined are made up = read the book The Myth of Mental Illness -

Magenta · F

@MarmeeMarch Indeed! A very wise man I know...believes there is no mental illness. He attributes many behaviors to other things. I've never read that but I shall.

MarmeeMarch · M

@Magenta There are about 5 real illnesses - I dont want to say that there are none - personally I have never read the book but I do believe this ADHD and the others is just BS and attention seeking devices.

Magenta · F

@MarmeeMarch I concur 100%.

Lambrent · 22-25, M

Call it what you will, but something is definitely 'off' about any man wanting to lop off his own dick. That's not of sound mind in my eyes.

Anonymouslyyours86 · 36-40, F

I’m not against people dressing or being trans but I think some of them have a mental illness

TakingBackMidgard · 31-35, M

@Anonymouslyyours86 that’s the case for a lot of people and it’s an honest thought. However so many people think of mental illness as something bad. That’s not true at all as it’s a part of life.

I suffer from anxiety now and then and that’s a mental illness.

Now if someone said “trannies need to be exterminated for their sins.” I’m sure people from all sides would stand against that.

pride49 · 31-35, M

Most things that aren't approved by the majority are called mental illness. I'm shy as fuck which negatively impacts my life and communication by that reasoning I'm mentally ill as well. It doesn't affect how you behave toward others like bipolarism etc unintentionally. So calling it a mental illness would just be a mean comment that would be your problem with their physical appearance, not their showing personality

Elandra77

Watch and learn. Current as of 2019. [b]NOT a mental disorder--OR a mental disease.
[/b]

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=kyCgz0z05Ik]

TheunderdogofNY · 36-40, M

I don't believe so. But I also believe some people fake it because now it's more accepted.

SW-User

No. I just think trans people have this exxagerrated idea of what it means to be the gender they transitioned to. I think it's just an extreme envy for a role that really is overrated. What really sucks is so many "Dysphoric" People are suddenly dysphoric no longer when they put on a pretty skirt or wear something pertaining to the opposite gender.

Fernie · F

Of course not!

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SStarfish ·

Why do people wanna call everything a mental illness?

Anonymouslyyours86 · 36-40, F

But isn’t it ?@SStarfish

SStarfish ·

@Anonymouslyyours86 its no more a mental illness than being catfished imo 🙄

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Blodyn · 22-25, F

No. It is very often the desire to allocate gender at birth. When the baby cannot say otherwise. Since 2004 in my country where there is doubt gender cannot be allocated until the baby is old enough to say.

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ShaythePanTransMan · 22-25, T

@SW-User oh?

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ShaythePanTransMan · 22-25, T

@SW-User I know, I was just confused about what you said. Well, that’s good.

Anonymouslyyours86 · 36-40, F

A lot of them become gay or transgender because some have experienced some form of sexual experiences with men so that might make them do become transgender

Reject · 26-30, M

I want to say no, but when I see how many of them there are who genuinely don’t seem happy in life I do wonder sometimes.

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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

Since it is most often described as the feeling of being trapped in a body, then yes it is.

MathisJO2911 · 46-50, F

ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 46-50, M

Nope. Political correctness makes it very clear that it isn't!

SW-User

In my opinion, it is.

strongbow · 46-50, M

Yes it is

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