Palestinian death toll rises to 1500.

hamas is a terrorist organisation that has been sheltered, housed, fed, encouraged, lauded, and supported by the residents of Gaza.
While hamas terrorists were murdering Israeli families, while hamas terrorists were shooting Israeli babies or burning them alive, while hamas terrorists were firing missies at a music festival, while hamas terrorists were kidnapping Israeli citizens from their homes... the residents of Gaza were dancing in the streets, celebrating, and shouting their approval.

The dildo of consequences seldom arrives lubed.

Tell Hamas not to behead little babies and then they maybe won't get attacked. As you know, civilian casualties are inevitable in any war, especially when the terrorists are hiding in schools and hospitals, but at least the Israelis make an effort not to target innocent civilians.

JERUSALEM (AP) — In Israel’s call for the evacuation of half of Gaza’s population, many Palestinians fear a repeat of the most traumatic event in their tortured history, their mass exodus from what is now Israel during the 1948 war surrounding its creation.

Palestinians refer to it as the Nakba, or “catastrophe.” An estimated 700,000 Palestinians, a majority of the prewar population, fled or were expelled from what is now Israel in the months before and during the war, in which Jewish fighters fended off an attack by several Arab states.

The Palestinians packed their belongings, piling into cars, trucks and donkey carts. Many locked their doors and took their keys with them, expecting to return when the war ended.

Seventy-five years later, they have not been allowed back. Emptied towns were renamed, villages were demolished, homes reclaimed by forests in Israeli nature reserves.

Israel refused to allow the Palestinians to return, because it would threaten the Jewish majority within the country’s borders. So the refugees and their descendants, who now number nearly 6 million, settled in camps in the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. Those camps eventually grew into built-up neighborhoods.

In Gaza, the vast majority of the population are Palestinian refugees, many of whose relatives fled from the same areas that Hamas attacked last weekend.

The Palestinians insist they have the right to return, something Israel still adamantly rejects. Their fate was among the thorniest issues in the peace process, which ground to a halt more than a decade ago.

Now, Palestinians fear the most painful moment from their history is repeating itself.

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I do not support the radical Sunni terrorist group Hamas. I do not support Netanyahu and his terrible policies and land grabbing corruption.

I do stand with the Palestinian people in their desire to have their own free state, just as Israel does. I stand with the innocent people on both sides, who are the victims of terror and war from Hamas and Netanyahu.

Who is going to step forward and demand a cease fire and stop this carnage?

I truly believe that the vast majority of Palestinians and Israelis want to live in peace and simply live their lives.

the most important thing people should remember is that Israel and Ukraine are not America's problem

Those who condone the attack on civilian targets know nothing of the history of war.
To my knowledge, Germany was the first to target civilians and civilian instalation in WWl and it hasn't stopped since.
Men who truly know how to fight wars understand that a battle ground is to be chosen, away from civilians and the 2 sides do battle until one side is victorious.
There are no more men with honor in war, just ravishing murderers who love death, no matter who's death it is.

Yes, You Can Be Pro-Palestine and Anti-Hamas
This is one trap you really don’t have to fall into when you talk about war in Israel and Gaza.
BY DAVID FARIS
OCT 13, 202311:04 AM

From SLATE....a portion worth reading and considering, IMO:

More than any other single entity, Hamas (an Arabic-language acronym for the Islamic Resistance Movement) helped destroy the Israeli left and, with it, any meaningful prospect of a two-state solution to the conflict.

The group had plenty of help, of course, from Jewish extremists in Israel and maximalist right-wing politicians like Netanyahu himself. Not long after the famous 1993 handshake between Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin on the White House lawn that kicked off the doomed Oslo peace process, an Israeli extremist gunned down dozens of Palestinians in a mosque, Rabin was dead from a Jewish assassin’s bullet, the settlements in territories that would need to be handed back to the Palestinians continued to inexplicably expand, and then, in 1996, Netanyahu was elected.

"Let all endeavors be channeled towards building a huge edifice for peace, instead of strongholds and hideouts defended by destructive rockets,” Egyptian President Anwar El-Sadat told the Israeli Knesset in a 1977 address that remains underappreciated for its timeless eloquence. “Be the heralds to your sons. Tell them that past wars were the last of wars and the end of sorrows.”

Sadat was maligned at the time for selling out the Palestinians and was himself assassinated by Salafi extremists very similar in outlook and principles to today’s Hamas madmen. But he was right: The Palestinians will not be made whole by inflicting sorrow on Israelis, by creating more grief-stricken parents and children, by inviting the inevitable and terrible retaliation that has already begun. Increasing the supply of grief only boosts the aggregate demand for savagery.

There are words in Sadat’s speech to heed for Israel as well. “No one can build his happiness at the expense of the misery of others,” he told a roomful of people whose army at the time was occupying and colonizing Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula. Here, again, Sadat was right. Israel will never, can never, be truly secure until the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are free and the still-in-limbo refugees find justice. The nation’s fearsome military, its stockpile of nuclear weapons, its separate peace treaties with other Arab states, its separation wall—all were unable to protect thousands from the weekend’s horrors. What Israelis do now with the stinging realization that the status quo of just a few days ago was an unsustainable delusion will determine the shape of the near-term future. Pure vengeance will get them nowhere. There is not, ultimately, enough room to dig the two graves in which both Israelis and Palestinians will be buried if revenge is enshrined as a principle worth defending.

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Who will step forward and demand an end to the killings by both sides and begin the road to peace? We are all human beings and must live together. End this hatred and division NOW.

Yes, it's very sad that many can't seem to distinguish between supporting ordinary civilians while opposing those who by exerting power with weapons, are a threat to them, on both sides.

War is a horrible thing, but Israel has a right to destroy Hamas. These deaths are tragic, but Hamas must never be permitted sanctuary again.

@Burnley123 why are countries of the world condemming what is going on in the middle east but not lifting a finger to stop the fighting and the killing of innocent people . not trying to get hamas and israel to the table too tallk peace or at least a cease fire whilst the talks go on

@Burnley123 The goal is to not have peace but to have destruction so that the
Palestinians will be forced to leave the Levant. After all, the biblical claim is that all of the land from the Nile River to the Euphrates belongs to the Jews. The people in Gaza could soon be exterminated if they don't get water and food. And there's no obvious way to rebuild their infrastructure.

Question: How many deaths are Hamas terrorists and how many are innocent Palestinians?

Not getting into condemning Israel. Most people are concerned about civilians. If you're not, something is wrong with your thinking.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hamas were in control because they were voted in by those people i believe?

Hamas knew that Israel would retaliate and that it would be big. The Yom Kippur war resulted in 18000 it is a surprise to no-one that Israel will retaliate. Innocent people will die - war will rage on and the conflict that started so many years ago will never die.

It is so sad

If someone is not cognizant that there are innocent civilians on both sides of this dispute, they shouldn't be discussing it. And I don't mean [b]you[/b] specifically. Sadly, innocent civilians, women and children alike are often the ones who pay for the follies of Man. Hamas are animals and deserve to be eradicated as they have caused more harm to their own people than Israel has. Israel is allowed to defend itself from the Hamas terrorists but there is going to be a cost for this for them too. I have served in multiple war zones since GW1 but thankfully never killed civilians, only enemy combatants, just like they killed lots of ours. Wars have existed almost as long as Man has and there is never justification for killing innocents...

Good question. I don’t think that rational thought is going to be happening for a while. How do they sort out the terrorists from the normal people? It's like sodom and Gomorrah.

Hamas was duly elected and carried out the attack.

Israel is protecting itself.

Goodbye Hamas

In response to the most murderous attack on Jews since the Holocaust.

Your silence on that is deafening.

They deserve it so we shouldn't really care

Thay been fighting 2000 years ...time to finish it.. one way or another,,

Not told in your other words, but I understand they were expressed in intellectual understanding, which has a way of trying to pronounce, why am I here, instead of asking how to feel with empathy.

[quote]If we do, then we should be all be condemning the actions of the Israeli state.[/quote]

Condemn. That word is in our handbook!!

Who did our masters tell us to only associate that with again? 🤔
Me lost my handbook

Stupid tricks get stupid prizes.

same reason Obama said no boots on the ground. they don't want to spill any of their own blood. what country would?! IDF were forced into it. Hamas leadership said they don't care about their own people, hence, they use them as human shields. what is driving your constant anti Israel bias? even after Palestinians acted like 12th century barbarians you still defended them. makes no sense.

What?

Good.

Exactly

The fact that 10,000 years later people are still thinking one side over the other are the good guys is pathetic.

Good riddance to those terrorist vermin.