Palestinian death toll rises to 1500.

This in a few days of bombs and missiles into civilian areas. This is before the ground offensive starts and before or the health system collapses. Two things that are about to happen.

This is likely to result in tens of thousands of deaths and many more due to starvation and disease. This is before we get to life changing injuries, which will be tens of thousands again.

I'm not shedding a tear for the Hama's fighters who targeted civilians but I am for everyone else. If a whole population must be made collectively responsible for the actions of their government then, well I deserve to die. By logical extension, I must be responsible for the Iraq war, Brexit and all the poverty caused by Tory austerity policies.

Do we value all lives equally? If we do, then we should be all be condemning the actions of the Israeli state.

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spjennifer · 56-60, T

If someone is not cognizant that there are innocent civilians on both sides of this dispute, they shouldn't be discussing it. And I don't mean [b]you[/b] specifically. Sadly, innocent civilians, women and children alike are often the ones who pay for the follies of Man. Hamas are animals and deserve to be eradicated as they have caused more harm to their own people than Israel has. Israel is allowed to defend itself from the Hamas terrorists but there is going to be a cost for this for them too. I have served in multiple war zones since GW1 but thankfully never killed civilians, only enemy combatants, just like they killed lots of ours. Wars have existed almost as long as Man has and there is never justification for killing innocents...

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@spjennifer The Israelis are committing another one of their genocides againt the people of Palestine in order to get their pure Jewish state. One day they will pay the price for their overt racism and bigotry and the world will rejoice when they no longer exist. (Zephaniah 1:2-3).

spjennifer · 56-60, T

@Diotrephes And what of the atrocities committed by Hamas? I may not agree with how Israel is going about this but I do agree with them having the right to protect their citizens from terrorists. Because you think that Hamas aren't racist and bigots too? Seriously?

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@spjennifer All of the leaders on both sides are true bastards and the world would be better off if they were to all drop dead this very second. It is the normal people who end up doing all of the suffering because the put evil people in charge of their affairs.

Read this =

[b][i][c=BF0000]WATCH: Israel is only the first target, warns Hamas commander
Mahmoud al-Zahar: "The entire planet will be under our law, there will be no more Jews or Christian traitors."[/c][/i][/b]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12613241/hamas-commander-israel-just-beginning-gaza-strikes.html

The[b][i] Jerusalem Post [/i][/b]has a better article but it's archived. The basic content is the same.

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spjennifer · 56-60, T

@Diotrephes Agreed and in this case, part of it is a holy war in that Hamas and Hezbollah both receive significant financial support and arms from Iran who wants to kill all the Jews in Israel and create another Muslim State so there are other actors in this situation that deserve attention too...