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Palestinian death toll rises to 1500.

This in a few days of bombs and missiles into civilian areas. This is before the ground offensive starts and before or the health system collapses. Two things that are about to happen.

This is likely to result in tens of thousands of deaths and many more due to starvation and disease. This is before we get to life changing injuries, which will be tens of thousands again.

I'm not shedding a tear for the Hama's fighters who targeted civilians but I am for everyone else. If a whole population must be made collectively responsible for the actions of their government then, well I deserve to die. By logical extension, I must be responsible for the Iraq war, Brexit and all the poverty caused by Tory austerity policies.

Do we value all lives equally? If we do, then we should be all be condemning the actions of the Israeli state.
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JSul3 · 70-79
Yes, You Can Be Pro-Palestine and Anti-Hamas
This is one trap you really don’t have to fall into when you talk about war in Israel and Gaza.
BY DAVID FARIS
OCT 13, 202311:04 AM

From SLATE....a portion worth reading and considering, IMO:

More than any other single entity, Hamas (an Arabic-language acronym for the Islamic Resistance Movement) helped destroy the Israeli left and, with it, any meaningful prospect of a two-state solution to the conflict.

The group had plenty of help, of course, from Jewish extremists in Israel and maximalist right-wing politicians like Netanyahu himself. Not long after the famous 1993 handshake between Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin on the White House lawn that kicked off the doomed Oslo peace process, an Israeli extremist gunned down dozens of Palestinians in a mosque, Rabin was dead from a Jewish assassin’s bullet, the settlements in territories that would need to be handed back to the Palestinians continued to inexplicably expand, and then, in 1996, Netanyahu was elected.

"Let all endeavors be channeled towards building a huge edifice for peace, instead of strongholds and hideouts defended by destructive rockets,” Egyptian President Anwar El-Sadat told the Israeli Knesset in a 1977 address that remains underappreciated for its timeless eloquence. “Be the heralds to your sons. Tell them that past wars were the last of wars and the end of sorrows.”

Sadat was maligned at the time for selling out the Palestinians and was himself assassinated by Salafi extremists very similar in outlook and principles to today’s Hamas madmen. But he was right: The Palestinians will not be made whole by inflicting sorrow on Israelis, by creating more grief-stricken parents and children, by inviting the inevitable and terrible retaliation that has already begun. Increasing the supply of grief only boosts the aggregate demand for savagery.

There are words in Sadat’s speech to heed for Israel as well. “No one can build his happiness at the expense of the misery of others,” he told a roomful of people whose army at the time was occupying and colonizing Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula. Here, again, Sadat was right. Israel will never, can never, be truly secure until the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are free and the still-in-limbo refugees find justice. The nation’s fearsome military, its stockpile of nuclear weapons, its separate peace treaties with other Arab states, its separation wall—all were unable to protect thousands from the weekend’s horrors. What Israelis do now with the stinging realization that the status quo of just a few days ago was an unsustainable delusion will determine the shape of the near-term future. Pure vengeance will get them nowhere. There is not, ultimately, enough room to dig the two graves in which both Israelis and Palestinians will be buried if revenge is enshrined as a principle worth defending.

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Who will step forward and demand an end to the killings by both sides and begin the road to peace? We are all human beings and must live together. End this hatred and division NOW.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@JSul3 It will never end because the Israeli cabal thinks that the whole Levant area belongs to it. Therefore, the cabal will continue the process of ethnic cleansing until it is destroyed.