Palestinian death toll rises to 1500.

This in a few days of bombs and missiles into civilian areas. This is before the ground offensive starts and before or the health system collapses. Two things that are about to happen.

This is likely to result in tens of thousands of deaths and many more due to starvation and disease. This is before we get to life changing injuries, which will be tens of thousands again.

I'm not shedding a tear for the Hama's fighters who targeted civilians but I am for everyone else. If a whole population must be made collectively responsible for the actions of their government then, well I deserve to die. By logical extension, I must be responsible for the Iraq war, Brexit and all the poverty caused by Tory austerity policies.

Do we value all lives equally? If we do, then we should be all be condemning the actions of the Israeli state.

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calicuz · 51-55, M

Those who condone the attack on civilian targets know nothing of the history of war.
To my knowledge, Germany was the first to target civilians and civilian instalation in WWl and it hasn't stopped since.
Men who truly know how to fight wars understand that a battle ground is to be chosen, away from civilians and the 2 sides do battle until one side is victorious.
There are no more men with honor in war, just ravishing murderers who love death, no matter who's death it is.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@calicuz America's favorite hobbies were killing defenseless Indian women and children and roasting Germans and Japanese in firebomb raids. America is now participating in another genocide with its master against 2 million Palestinians who have no defense and no food and water.

HootyTheNightOwl

@Diotrephes Yeah, America should've just looked the other way and let the Japanese carry on mounting their base in Hawaii... Then Japan would have used that to attack the mainland.

calicuz · 51-55, M

@HootyTheNightOwl

No, I think he's referring to the fact that the US didn't have to drop the bombs on Japan, the Japanese would have been defeated by September, so the dropping of the bombs was nothing more than a live human experiment.

Synyster · 51-55, M

@calicuz Agree! There are ways to take out Hamas without killing civilians. The Navy seals special forces and mercs.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@HootyTheNightOwl [quote]Yeah, America should've just looked the other way and let the Japanese carry on mounting their base in Hawaii... Then Japan would have used that to attack the mainland.[/quote]

The Japanese never did make an attempt to land a military force in Hawaii.

[c=BF0000][b][i]Why Didn’t Japan Invade Hawai’i After Pearl Harbor?[/i][/b][/c]
"But a Japanese invasion never came. It was never a part of the plan to invade Hawaii after the attack on Pearl Harbor. The Japanese also passed up juicy targets in Australia and Ceylon where defenses were light and victory could have been easily secured if they had planned properly."
https://grantpiperwriting.medium.com/why-didnt-japan-invade-hawai-i-after-pearl-harbor-f1e11c5d72a9#:~:text=But%20a%20Japanese%20invasion%20never,if%20they%20had%20planned%20properly.

HootyTheNightOwl

@calicuz

[quote]the dropping of the bombs was nothing more than a live human experiment[/quote]

That makes sense. America had been sitting stroking their new bombs for quite a while at that point.

Alternatively, though... Japan did catch America sleeping with Pearl Harbor. Had they known that the attack was imminent, there's no way they'd have left so much of their fleet there - so it's possible that the bombings were more to demonstrate to others at the time why it was a bad idea to try and spring surprise attacks like that.

calicuz · 51-55, M

@HootyTheNightOwl

If that's the true scenario, then I would have to agree.