Palestinian death toll rises to 1500.

This in a few days of bombs and missiles into civilian areas. This is before the ground offensive starts and before or the health system collapses. Two things that are about to happen.

This is likely to result in tens of thousands of deaths and many more due to starvation and disease. This is before we get to life changing injuries, which will be tens of thousands again.

I'm not shedding a tear for the Hama's fighters who targeted civilians but I am for everyone else. If a whole population must be made collectively responsible for the actions of their government then, well I deserve to die. By logical extension, I must be responsible for the Iraq war, Brexit and all the poverty caused by Tory austerity policies.

Do we value all lives equally? If we do, then we should be all be condemning the actions of the Israeli state.

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RedBaron · M

In response to the most murderous attack on Jews since the Holocaust.

Your silence on that is deafening.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@RedBaron I have condemned Hamas for attacking civilians in many places. Also literally, in this post.

RedBaron · M

@Burnley123 Not so anyone should notice as much as your multiple posts condemning Israel.

You display a bias, however unintentionally.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@RedBaron You strongly and disingenuously implied that I have sympathy for Hamas targeting civilians. I don't and I have explicitly said so.

I value all lives equally, which is why I do not think the coming 100,000 Palestinian deaths is justified and I have said why.

You have yet to say one single word condemning civilian lives lost to the IDF. Please can you do that?

RedBaron · M

@Burnley123 Of course. But as I said, war sometimes yields undesirable consequences.

If Hamas cared about the lives of Palestinians or anyone else, they wouldn’t have attacked Israeli communities in the first place.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@RedBaron You gave a brief 'of course' and then instantly re-clarified to blame in on Hamas.

In short, if 300,000 Palestinians die then it is all Hamas fault for killing 2000 Israelis in the first attack. This literally is your position.

cerealguy · 26-30, M

@Burnley123 whataboutism and all sorts of manipulation tactics are to be expected when dealing with colonial invasion supporters

Well, selective colonial invasion supporters. Russia is excluded from the gang do they get called out

RedBaron · M

@Burnley123 Again, I am still waiting for you to suggest an alternative instead of just criticizing and second-guessing.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@RedBaron My alternative is not to kill 30000 people out Iof revenge and claim that it's about defense.

RedBaron · M

@Burnley123 What alternative do you suggest for Hamas and what they did?

RedBaron · M

@Burnley123 Once again, your silence is deafening.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@RedBaron I have stated my position clearly. I do not think that invading and killing that many people is a justified action, even if that does fully destroy Hamas, which it probably won't/.

RedBaron · M

@Burnley123 That’s nice.