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Palestinian death toll rises to 1500.

This in a few days of bombs and missiles into civilian areas. This is before the ground offensive starts and before or the health system collapses. Two things that are about to happen.

This is likely to result in tens of thousands of deaths and many more due to starvation and disease. This is before we get to life changing injuries, which will be tens of thousands again.

I'm not shedding a tear for the Hama's fighters who targeted civilians but I am for everyone else. If a whole population must be made collectively responsible for the actions of their government then, well I deserve to die. By logical extension, I must be responsible for the Iraq war, Brexit and all the poverty caused by Tory austerity policies.

Do we value all lives equally? If we do, then we should be all be condemning the actions of the Israeli state.

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orioninthenight · M

the most important thing people should remember is that Israel and Ukraine are not America's problem

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JSul3 · 70-79

@orioninthenight
America First will eventually lead to America Alone.

orioninthenight · M

@JSul3 I am not a Trump supporter. I am just saying as far as foreign policy is concerned, there are bigger problems at home.

orioninthenight · M

@JSul3 Neither of these countries contribute anything significant to America. Look at how things are now. They are both out of the picture and America is doing just fine.

JSul3 · 70-79

@orioninthenight So glad you can turn a blind eye to a sovereign nation being invaded by war criminal Putin....and ignore the atrocities from Hamas and Netanyahu on innocent people.

I can't.

orioninthenight · M

@JSul3 Nobody cares as much when Americans die in America. Last time I checked violent crime in New York, Chicago, Dallas, and LA is on the rise.

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JSul3 · 70-79

@orioninthenight If we had decent gun laws, things would be different. This is an issue within the US.

The US has not been attacked since 911.
A radical Sunni terrorist group Hamas, attacked Israel over treatment and land grabbing by the leader of Israel, Netanyahu.

The sovereign nation of Ukraine was invaded by a war criminal Putin.

orioninthenight · M

@JSul3 Exactly. The US hasn't been attacked. So it is best to mind your own damn business. You need a problem to solve or something? Are you in the best shape of your life right now? Are you rich? No?

JSul3 · 70-79

@orioninthenight You sound like Neville Chamberlain or Charles Lindberg.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@orioninthenight [quote]the most important thing people should remember is that Israel and Ukraine are not America's problem
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America has lots of problems and Israel & Ukraine are two big ones.

orioninthenight · M

@Diotrephes Those countries have literally nothing to do with the United States. They are out of the picture right now and America continues to survive just fine.

orioninthenight · M

@Diotrephes Both Israel and Palestine are horrible. Israel should not even exist and both Jews and Arabs have behaved terribly there fueled by nonsense / religion.

Nobody should be allowed to live in that place. Nobody at all.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@orioninthenight You sound like the lines from Zephaniah 1:2-3 =
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=zephaniah+1%3A2-3&version=TLB

JSul3 · 70-79

@orioninthenight Correction: Israel policy is horrible....and a radical Sunni terrorist group Hamas are horrible.

Not every Palestinian supports Hamas.
Not every Israeli supports corrupt Netanyahu.

orioninthenight · M

@JSul3 Anyone who as the basis of their beliefs starts with the idea that ghosts and angels are real does not deserve to be taken seriously, especially if these beliefs lead them to think one piece of land is better than any other on this world because "god gave it to them". Even worse to kill over such nonsense.

JSul3 · 70-79

@orioninthenight No argument there. I am no fan of any religion....but people can live in peace if treated equally and respected.
Radicals on all sides do not apply.

orioninthenight · M

@JSul3 I mean I kind of consider anyone who thinks Heaven is a real thing because of the bible to be pretty radical. Because that is a completely absurd belief.

RedBaron · M

@orioninthenight Newsflash: Israel exists and isn’t going away, certainly not because of your antisemitism.

JSul3 · 70-79

@RedBaron I am not antisemitic. Israel does exist. They are a free state. I believe that the Palestine people deserve the same free state.

RedBaron · M

@JSul3 My comment was addressed to orioninthenight, who said Israel should not exist.

That’s antisemitism, plain and simple.

JSul3 · 70-79

@RedBaron I knew it was. I simply added my opinion.

RedBaron · M

@JSul3 But I didn’t say you were antisemitic, so I’m not sure what you were responding to.

orioninthenight · M

@RedBaron lol you people are total morons

orioninthenight · M

@RedBaron @JSul3 I was for a moment shocked that I was called an antisemite but on reflection actually I AM AN ANTISEMITE. I am an anti semite because I think people who believe in god are totally ridiculous. Even more than me. So that is VERY ridiculous.

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