That's what a lot of people have been ask, even the mockers who fulfilled the prophecy found in 2 Peter 3:3-5:
3 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers will come, walking after their own lusts 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of his coming? For, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget that there were heavens from of old, and an earth formed out of water and amid water by the word of God,
But, when they are confronted with the Truth of God, they run as if a Lion was after them. Just an observation, mind you. The mock, they ridicule, taunt, scoff, and they blow their own horn. And, yet, they refuse to support their gibe.
If a relative was coming to visit you and it takes them an hour to get to your place, why would expect to see them in a minute? They will arrive in the hour that it takes them to get to your place. They will arrive at your place at the proper time. In the same light, Jesus will come at the proper time without fail. This time, it won't be in a manger but as King of kings and Lord of lords.
There's no doubt that we are in the last days, as we have never seen the signs that we have seen today. And common sense tells us that when we see the Earth fading away more and more each day, the end is nearer, but if we prepare, it will be the best days of our lives, as we will go up in the rapture and miss all the turmoil and catastrophe that shall happen on Earth after we're gone.
@LadyGrace I am a Christian. Given Jesus believed he was forsaken when on the Cross. I don't believe anyone can have more Faith than He. God decides who is and isn't saved, not humans.
Liar! Blasphemer! You share the false gospel created by Gangleslotte to drive the faithful followers of Farblesnozz away from our true Creator! For so it is written in the book of Ymehpsalb:
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Now Gangleslotte was jealous of Farblesnozz, for His creations adored Him. And so he disguised himself in white robe and beard, and deceived the people, saying, 2. "Behold! I am Yahweh, your creator! Abandon this worship of Farblesnozz and follow me instead! I alone can save you from destruction!"
3. And Farblesnozz was enraged, for His children began to abandon Him and worship Gangleslotte in his guise as Yahweh. 4. So Farblesnozz created the foul realm of Snazzlekhil, which is called Schmickleton. And He made the Trolls to oversee the great dirt mines, the most useless place in all of creation.
5. And Farblesnozz called upon the man Streborbob, and told him, "Go unto the masses, and tell them of Yahweh's deception, for he is Gangleslotte, the author of evil! 6. And tell them that all who follow Yahweh will shovel dirt for all eternity!"
7. And Streborbob did as Farblesnozz commanded, and told the worshippers of Yahweh what he had said, but they scoffed and mocked at him! "Farblesnozz is a lie, and you are a liar," they shouted. 8. And so Farblesnozz turned His face from the Yahweh worshippers, and never again tried to save them.
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And when Farblesnozz turned His face from the followers of Yahweh, who was really Gangleslotte, they felt the cold and fear of His absence. They fought many wars over many centuries, in their fear and ignorance. 2. And Gangleslotte saw their hatred, and called it love. He encouraged his followers to kill any who would not follow him as they did. 3. But there were some who saw the truth of Farblesnozz, in spite of Gangleslotte's clever lies. And Gangleslotte saw that all his cleverness and deception would come undone if his enemies were not silenced. 4. And so it was that Farblesnozz, disguised once again as Yahweh, came to Earth, and impregnated a woman, Mary. 5. And after he defiled her, he appeared before her in the guise of an angel, and lied, saying, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favour with God. And now, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you will name him Jesus. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High." 6. And with this deception, Gangleslotte created the false and blasphemous religion known as Christianity.
@GodSpeed63 As has been talked out here endless (as you well know) Proving a negative is not possible outside violations of natural laws. But thanks for taking the cop out. You have no constructive arguments. Just religious propaganda.
@whowasthatmaskedman [quote]As has been talked out here endless (as you well know) Proving a negative is not possible [/quote]
So, why are you trying to prove that God is a negative if it's not possible. Why not try to prove that He's a positive instead for a change, you may find out that it is possible to prove.
@GodSpeed63 You want to believe in your god, go right ahead. But come up to me and tell me your basement is flooded and the first thing I will do is look down to see if your feet are wet..😷
@PhoenixPhail i don't believe the Earth is dying. But I believe time is up for the human race. This Earth will not sustain us much longer. But....thats OUR problem. The planet will go on an florish long after we have gone as it did before we appeared.
@RubySoo I agree. Without human intervention, the Earth will have a chance to rebalance and recover. Maybe the next civilization, whatever it is, will be kinder to her. 🙏
@RubySoo @PhoenixPhail Everything about this Earth says it's dying. The Glaciers are all melting, animals are becoming extinct, the ocean is even dying, coral reefs and all, endangered species, according to scientists, it's quite obvious. And humans are the ones that destroyed it.
[b][c=BF0000]"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. [u]Heaven and earth shall pass away[/u], but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Luke 21:33[/c][/b]
The Bible consistently warns us that this world will not last forever. “Heaven and earth will pass away,” Jesus said inMatthew 24:35. His statement was in the context of end times’ prophecies and the eternal nature of Jesus’ words: “My words will never pass away.” This means that trusting Jesus is wiser than trusting anything in this world.
Jesus also refers to the passing away of heaven and earth in Matthew 5:18. In Revelation 21:1, John writes of a new heaven and a new earth in the eternal state, having seen that “the first heaven and the first earth had passed away” (Isaiah 65:17 and 2 Peter 3:13). To “pass away” is to disappear or be no more. This refers to the physical heaven and earth—the material world and all it contains—but not to the spirits/souls of the inhabitants of those places. Scripture is clear that people will outlast the current material universe, some in a state of eternal bliss and some in a state of eternal misery, and that the current universe will be replaced by another, that will never know the contamination of sin.
I do pray that people will prepare their souls for eternity. What we decide here and whom we decide to worship, determines where we'll spend eternity and I hope people will see the importance of preparing themselves for the afterlife. Thank you for this most crucial post.
[quote]I am living proof of John 3:3 and of John 3:5. I'm a different man than the one 40 years ago before I met Jesus and invited Him into my heart. God wants us to know the Truth about Him and this the only way that He provided for us to know Him on a personal basis.[/quote]
Absolutely, and that is something I never knew until the Lord saved my soul.... that the proof is in the [b]experience[/b]. This is when God sent His Holy Spirit to dwell in me, after I was saved, as promised in His Word, to anyone that accepts Him as their Lord and Savior. The minute we invite Jesus into our hearts and lives, this is when we allow Him to save us and send His Spirit to join with ours, in unity and harmony. People don't know that until they allow Jesus to save them. I never would have known that, but I sure found out real quick, that God is real, that He hears all prayers, answers us, and that His Holy Spirit envelopes ours with the most amazing transformation anyone can experience! I was truly shocked by this reality. And it was nothing I knew could even happen, so there's no way I could have made that up. But God truly showed Himself to me, the very second I was willing to trust what He says in His Word to be true, and invited Him into my heart and life, as my Savior. This just goes to show us, that God and His Word and Holy Spirit are ALIVE, and can only bring absolute LIFE to our one's dead spirit, and transforms our whole being, and we can't really help but be transformed when He gives His Holy Spirit, which make us whole....when his Spirit touches ours, a supernatural miracle happens, and nothing is impossible with God.
@froggtongue You got it right. 👍 It is prophecy so that people will know what to expect in the future, just like the Book of Revelation prophesize what will happen in the end days, even what will happen at the battle of Armageddon.
@LadyGrace I guess this is just where we differ. It doesn't sound like natural language to me. I'd like to know what the original Greek says and all that before I make further opinions.
@froggtongue [quote]I guess this is just where we differ. It doesn't sound like natural language to me. I'd like to know what the original Greek says and all that before I make further opinions. [/quote]
The names like Rama, Krishna, Jesus etc., belong to the external human body, which has taken birth. Such names are generated only after the birth of these human bodies. Therefore, such names are certainly the names of the external human bodies only, which are like the shirts. When the human bodies perish, these names also must perish. But these names exist as eternal names even after the disappearance of these human bodies due to death. The reason is that these names were directed towards the inner Lord even during the time of existence these human bodies.
A person is carrying vegetables for selling. You call him by the name “ Vegetables”. The person is not vegetable and the vegetables are not the person also. But the possessor of the vegetables is called by the name of the possessed material. Similarly, when the name “ Krishna or Jesus” was called, this name was directed towards the internal Lord also. Therefore, even if the human body perished, since the Lord is eternal, Krishna or Jesus is also eternal. When Krishna said that He will come again and again, whenever necessary ( Yada Yada hi….Gita), it means the eternal Lord present in the human body will come again and again through different human forms. Similarly, when it is told that Jesus will come again, it means the Lord present in that human body will come again. Here the names Krishna and Jesus indicate the Lord and not the human body.
When some body says that He will come again after 20 years, it does not mean that he will come in the same shirt. Even in the case of the ordinary human beings the name indicates the inner eternal soul also. When people say that Subba Rao died, it means that the name indicates the external human body. People say that Subba Rao’s last journey is today. It means that the name indicates only the external body, which is going to be cremated in the burial ground on that day. In these sayings the name indicates the external human body. But after one-year people say that today is the yearly ceremony of Subba Rao. When you have stated that Subba Rao finished his last journey one year back, how can you bring Subba Rao again after one year? Here the name indicates the inner soul. Therefore, even in the worldly terminology the name indicates both the external body and inner soul according to the context.
Therefore, when you say that Jesus was crucified and killed, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Jesus will come again on final day of destruction of this world, the name indicates the inner Lord. Thus, the same name indicates the external or internal item according to the context. When you say that Krishna danced in Brundavanam, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Krishna will come again and again whenever necessary, the name indicates the inner Lord. If you realise this discrimination, you have no quarrel with any religion. When you say that Jesus or Krishna will come again, it means that the inner Lord is going to come in different human bodies again. When you are drawing the picture of Jesus or Krishna, the picture represents the external human body only and not the inner Lord. You can never draw the picture of the inner Lord because He is beyond the realm of imagination. You cannot say about the existence of two unimaginable Lords. When the Lord is unimaginable, He can be only one. If you say that there are two entities, it means that both the entities are imaginable. Therefore, you have to accept that there is only one unimaginable Lord or God. The external human bodies are different and cannot be one. When I say that Krishna is Jesus, it means that the Lord in the body of Krishna and in the body of Jesus is one and the same. It does not mean that the two different bodies are one and the same.
@ArcAngel I thought you were referring to the most recent comment. Now I understand. On the first comment, yes, I can very much understand why you think that. Good that we have that cleared up now.
Amen 🙏🙏🙏 No one knows when Jesus will return, but when He does everyone will see him. Praise be to God 🙏🙏🙏
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It is not mocking to simply point out that you @GodSpeed63 are a literalist who seems to know nothing of the deeper mystical traditions of the Christian Faith, nor the works of its greatest theologians.
@GodSpeed63 Being "born again" is simply a Protestant Reform phrase, picked up from John 3:3. That we must be born of the spirit.
Which in other verses we are told [b][i]blows where it will[/i][/b].
Here is Thomas Merton on the "reification of faith"
[i]Real meaning of the phrase we are saved by faith = we are saved by Christ, whom we encounter in faith. But constant disputation about faith has made Christians become obsessed with faith almost as an object, at least as an experience, a "thing" and in concentrating upon it they lose sight of Christ. Whereas faith without the encounter with Christ and without His presence is less than nothing. It is the deadest of dead works, an act elicited in a moral and existential void. To seek to believe that one believes, and arbitrarily to decree that one believes, and then to conclude that this gymnastic has been blessed by Christ - this is pathological Christianity. And a Christianity of works. One has this mental gymnastic in which to trust. One is safe, one possesses the psychic key to salvation......[/i]
There is no formula. Trying to dictate some specific meaning or experience according to any particular theology of salvation (as fundamentalist Protestants often do) is in fact to begin to trust in one's own [i]experiences[/i] and conformity to a theology rather than in Grace itself, the very nature of the One Source.
@SW-User [quote]Being "born again" is simply a Protestant Reform phrase, picked up from John 3:3. That we must be born of the spirit.[/quote]
Smile, I am living proof of John 3:3 and of John 3:5. I'm a different man than the one 40 years ago before I met Jesus and invited Him into my heart. God wants us to know the Truth about Him and this the only way that He provided for us to know Him on a personal basis. God is in to restoring relationships, to bring us back to becoming the men and women that He created from the very beginning without sin.
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@GodSpeed63 Well, I am certainly different from who I was 40 years ago.
But as said, I make no claims for myself as such.
The "way" provided is Grace, the very nature of the One Source.
@Aidan it really does matter if we know when he's coming back, because some people will put off their decision to follow Christ if they think they've got plenty of time, but as you know, Jesus said he could come back at any time and that today is the day of salvation, not to wait till tomorrow.
@LadyGrace Matthew 24:36 states that "no one knows the day or the hour that the Lord Jesus will return—neither the Son, nor the angels, that only God the Father knows.”
[quote]But, when they are confronted with the Truth of God, they run as if a Lion was after them.[/quote] I have never seen you tell the truth about anything in your entire time here.
that's not nonsense if one understands who their real enemy is. Christ was most likely referring to those who were members of the Establishment who were plotting to murder Him.
Christ wasn't God, but there is certainly more to it. The key is finding the writtings, if any exist, as to where he was and what he was doing for those 18 missing years.
[center] after the last time he was here I would not blame him if he didn't return. There are clues on revelation but nothing definitive. Like April 12,2092. To
@kentex35 He always keeps a promise, so He'll be back, but I'm with you on that statement ... 'Why would he want to come back, after the way he was treated?' Yet His great, unconditional love for us, will bring Him back. He's looking forward to taking His bride, the Church, to heaven with Him.
Already did and organized religion/ human expectation and assumptions wronged that individual such that it might be an opportunity lost. That was in the late 80s
Here's a thought, numbnuts. Instead of praying for people to find the truth, why don't you actively work to provide evidence? Or do you want us all going to hell?
