That's what a lot of people have been ask, even the mockers who fulfilled the prophecy found in 2 Peter 3:3-5:
3 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers will come, walking after their own lusts 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of his coming? For, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget that there were heavens from of old, and an earth formed out of water and amid water by the word of God,
But, when they are confronted with the Truth of God, they run as if a Lion was after them. Just an observation, mind you. The mock, they ridicule, taunt, scoff, and they blow their own horn. And, yet, they refuse to support their gibe.
If a relative was coming to visit you and it takes them an hour to get to your place, why would expect to see them in a minute? They will arrive in the hour that it takes them to get to your place. They will arrive at your place at the proper time. In the same light, Jesus will come at the proper time without fail. This time, it won't be in a manger but as King of kings and Lord of lords.
This is the Truth that can't be refuted.
This is also the Truth that can't be refuted.
Be praying for you all to know the Truth.
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It is not mocking to simply point out that you @GodSpeed63 are a literalist who seems to know nothing of the deeper mystical traditions of the Christian Faith, nor the works of its greatest theologians.
It is not mocking to simply point out that you @GodSpeed63 are a literalist who seems to know nothing of the deeper mystical traditions of the Christian Faith, nor the works of its greatest theologians.
Are you born again or are you just religious?
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@GodSpeed63 Being "born again" is simply a Protestant Reform phrase, picked up from John 3:3. That we must be born of the spirit.
Which in other verses we are told blows where it will.
Here is Thomas Merton on the "reification of faith"
Real meaning of the phrase we are saved by faith = we are saved by Christ, whom we encounter in faith. But constant disputation about faith has made Christians become obsessed with faith almost as an object, at least as an experience, a "thing" and in concentrating upon it they lose sight of Christ. Whereas faith without the encounter with Christ and without His presence is less than nothing. It is the deadest of dead works, an act elicited in a moral and existential void. To seek to believe that one believes, and arbitrarily to decree that one believes, and then to conclude that this gymnastic has been blessed by Christ - this is pathological Christianity. And a Christianity of works. One has this mental gymnastic in which to trust. One is safe, one possesses the psychic key to salvation......
There is no formula. Trying to dictate some specific meaning or experience according to any particular theology of salvation (as fundamentalist Protestants often do) is in fact to begin to trust in one's own experiences and conformity to a theology rather than in Grace itself, the very nature of the One Source.
Being "born again" is simply a Protestant Reform phrase, picked up from John 3:3. That we must be born of the spirit.
Smile, I am living proof of John 3:3 and of John 3:5. I'm a different man than the one 40 years ago before I met Jesus and invited Him into my heart. God wants us to know the Truth about Him and this the only way that He provided for us to know Him on a personal basis. God is in to restoring relationships, to bring us back to becoming the men and women that He created from the very beginning without sin.
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@GodSpeed63 Well, I am certainly different from who I was 40 years ago.
But as said, I make no claims for myself as such.
The "way" provided is Grace, the very nature of the One Source.
