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Should you ever apologize to a narcissist?

I've wronged the narcissist and I'm paying for it...
Deceased · M
You can. But you may as well be trying to teach a monkey Mandarin for all the goid it does. The apology is never enough. You have to pay for whatever percieved slight until they decide they're over it.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Deceased *sigh* Sadly, that is so true
Deceased · M
@NativePortlander1970 *taps the tip of my nose* exacta.
@Deceased exactly. You pay for the good they miss out on didn’t take part in and the bad.
It's part of how they use you as their supply.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@pillowprincess Omg this is so true. I've been a supply for years. It sucks
@bittersweethermit
I'm sorry you have to deal with such. I hope you can break away.
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Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
I apologize when I'm wrong

But if they try to start having that feed their ego and feed some victim complex, you can disempower them by giving them the coldest shoulder and not responding with any more remorse or attention. Anything after that doesn't deserve attention and a narcissist's GREATEST request is that you ALWAYS have your attention on their presence. Disempower that. You're important. They're not

Accept that. Do you. And do NOT let them say a word without having to explain it thoroughly. (Considering them a complete narcissist according to ya 😅)

Remove yourself and go to fun people
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Iwantyourhotwife I'm trying to avoid him now. He's already accusing me of someone I'm not because of a mistake that I made. Narcissists never forget, and he will rub this on my face forever
@Iwantyourhotwife Well said!
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
Honestly, if they are a narcissist, I'd do everything I could to not speak with them again, unless I had to.

In this event, if you have to apologize, make it about how you failed to live up to your own expectations and minimize any focus upon the narcissist.

It may seem cold, but the last thing you should do is make them a central focus for anything.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@ViciDraco That's a really good advice but I don't want him to rub it in my face of how he's better than me now
If you were genuinely in the wrong and not just from their imagination, yes. If you’re doing it to make peace , there’s no such thing with them.
You can’t, they don’t have the same feelings. Apologizing to them is like reading the dictionary to a dog
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@SatyrService That's a good analogy
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bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Morvoren I already did the right thing I just didn't apologize because I know he'll get a swollen head after
Magenta · F
@Morvoren [quote]Your standards are nothing to do with anyone else.[/quote] Exactly.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
There are circumstances and there are principals both to consider. You don't give into either lightly.

Without principles though you're no better than the narcissist themselves.

Yet you don't want to be the boxing bag of any narcissistic ploys.

Best to remove yourself from the situation all together. If possible.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer I know that. I'm trying. My bad luck has been bogging me down for years. It's even in my past posts
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@bittersweethermit remove yourself from the situation. You haven't mentioned just what the narcissistic situation is.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer Check my latest post. It's long but you can just skim it if you want just so you can get a general idea
It doesn't matter who they are, it only matters what I did.

If I'm wrong, I'll apologize without any further thoughts.
@bittersweethermit It doesn't matter.

Apology is not about that.
@NotSureAboutMyUserName The moment you apologize to a narcissist they will use it against you, badly, never apologize to one.
Dethmoore · 31-35, M
Never apologize to a narcissist unless it’s really your fault for something. If a narcissist wronged you, never apologize or they will continue to do whatever they did.
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
I’d say no, they’re non communicative anyway so whether you apologize or not is irrelevant. Your best bet is to avoid the narcissist.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@BackyardShaman You're right. They're very secretive about their lives too, and they only tell you what you want to hear, never the truth. They're the worst
thenormalkindofcrazy · 31-35, M
It encourages them and "proves" that they are right, and yet sometimes it's the only way to get them to shut up.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@thenormalkindofcrazy That's actually true. He does this smug face whenever I'm about to give up in an argument with him
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
Apologizing to a narcissist is as effective as ripping a phone book in half... When you're a 30 pound weakling.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Sidewinder That sounds really painful
fun4us2b · M
I don't think so, it's sort of playing into their evil plan and they will ultimately use it against you.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@fun4us2b Thank you. This is exactly what's preventing me to apologize. Glad I'm not alone in that thinking
SW-User
Your caution is understandable, if possible don't associate with him/her anymore.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@SW-User That's what I plan to do but my family is forcing me to apologize because of a mistake i did
BLP11520 · 61-69, M
why bother they are never in the wrong
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@BLP11520 I agree 100%
BLP11520 · 61-69, M
@bittersweethermit my wife...
Reject · 26-30, M
You should, but you shouldn’t provide any company after that.
JohnnyNoir · 56-60, M
No! It just feeds their ego
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@JohnnyNoir True. I already tried to correct the situation, I just didn't apologize
JohnnyNoir · 56-60, M
@bittersweethermit usually they want it corrected to their point of view. Be careful of that
Disposal · 36-40, M
Yes, and tbh i ended the friendship because it not worth it
Oster1 · M
If they were abusive, no. 🙂
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Oster1 Growing up, he was abusive towards me, my mom let it all happen. I recently wronged him but that's a different story
Oster1 · M
@bittersweethermit There is absolutely no reason, to suffer toxic people. I don't blame you at all! 🙂🌺
Magenta · F
Hmm Idk. Maybe. It would be based on your own integrity and not necessarily FOR them.

First they would have to be clinically diagnosed as having NPD and not just someone that some ex or other labeled them as.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Magenta He's not going to get diagnosed because of his big ego. My family is pointing fingers at me that I'm the one who is crazy...I'm just depressed
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Iwillwait · M
Of course, if it's owed or due to you're mistake or transgressions.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Iwillwait Have you ever dealt with a narcissist?
Iwillwait · M
@bittersweethermit I am one.
At least that's what I am referred to by my ex. Lol!
Iwillwait · M
@bittersweethermit .. and to answer your question, yes I have been involved with narcissistic people, seems I attracted this type of person, in friends and lovers.
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Greyjedi · M
Yeah if you mean it,
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Greyjedi I want to say sorry but I'm avoiding him getting a swollen head after an apology
Greyjedi · M
@bittersweethermit swollen head is what narcissism is kind of a about. You’ll feel better apologizing.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Greyjedi Yeah, I guess so
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
To make them underestimate you, sure.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Queendragonfly He's been underestimating me my whole life so he could feel good about himself
Really · 80-89, M
[quote]Should you ever apologize to a narcissist?[/quote]For labeling them; yes, certainly.
If you do them any wrong, why not?
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@NoGamesTolerated I'll never hear the end of it that's what's preventing me
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bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Bugbittinbrain No. They don't have a heart, and soul
eyeno · M
Nope..! Forgive...yes 👍🏼

Greyjedi · M
@eyeno forgiveness is never the answer.
Ontheroad · M
Sure, if I wrong them.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Ontheroad Sounds fair
Only if it’s a situation where you’d apologize to anyone else. Even so, don’t expect to ever hear the end of it. 😳
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@bijouxbroussard Yeah, that's true and it sucks. They will always act like their superior than you
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
No. No contact would be the best idea.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@basilfawlty89 Were ignoring each other right now
Renaci · 36-40
No. They already think they are the greatest. You could never apologize enough to make them think anymore highly of themselves. And nothing outside themselves could even bring them down because they don't value anyone other than themselves.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Renaci You just took words out of my mouth
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
If I am wrong I apologize but a Narc will never forget
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@iamonfire696 So true
@bittersweethermit Did you actually truly wrong him, or is he accusing you of doing so and goading you to apologize.
bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@NativePortlander1970 I have wronged him but if I had a choice, I wouldn't have done it in the first place. He did something similar in the past but it was much worse than what I did to him. He even set me up and video taped me.
@bittersweethermit So therefore it's not your fault, that's called entrapment, you did not do anything wrong.
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BLP11520 · 61-69, M
@Thevy29 😃
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bittersweethermit · 36-40, F
@Pretzel I'm not the bad guy, I just made a bad decision and now he's flaunting his superiority because I wronged him. It's nothing compared to what he did in the past
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