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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Oh, look. @strictdadhusbandanduncleinpa is once again lying for the KKK.

helenS · 36-40, F
Russians, of course, are no "barbarians". Who could possibly insult innocent Russians in such an outrageous way??



Picture postcards from Ukraine
@SW-User
Given that Russia recently had a terrorist attack within. Suppose Russia suggests the terrorists came from. ... Poland...they ought to just go in and do as they please then yeah?

No. Now if the Polish government agreed to work with Russia, sure.

Show where they welcomed US NATO forces conducting military action on the ground.

😆

Show where Afghanistan exists. Show where the president waved at NATO.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@helenS Do you have any pictures on US bombing in Vietnam and Cambodia for comparison?
redredred · M
I just want the killing to stop. Zelenskyy is, at best, a tiny bit better than Putin but to the average Ukrainian it can’t matter much which of these two is in charge.

Get a neutral party, Japan,Peru, Canada or somebody to organize peace talks and stop shooting.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow What ever you say Sunsporter
@Kwek00 Nope. Sunstroke is a nazi supporter like you.
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Take things with a grain of salt and regulate your own feelings. Being nice is encouraged, but if every statement needs a disclaimer, a trigger warning, or a censor, there can't be much of a public forum. Of course, outright hate and threats posing is not permitted, but calling out a nation-state like Russia for its warmongering dictatorship is in bounds.

If the athletes you claim are pure and innocent are representing Russia they should not be allowed to participate no matter where they reside because Russia should not be represented. That's not racism or hate; that's common sense.

Be brave instead of allowing your feelings to get so hurt, so fast, and so frequently.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@emiliya
Russians are very good at tennis

and they are russians...

Liudmila Samsonova... not representing Italy
Daria Kasatkina... not representing Spain
Victoria Azarenka... not representing USA
Mirra Andreea... not representing France
Daniil Medvedev... not representing France
emiliya · 22-25, F
@newjaninev2 They are tennis players who are representing the country of their birth. As you have been told, they have declared their neutrality. If there are issues with them being able to represent other countries, it is not their fault. They are not in the Russian army; they do not support the war and have in several cases spoken out against the war; they reside in other countries, and they have nothing to do with Putin.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
I saw that post. That person was utterly indoctrinated by the Slava Ukrani propaganda movement by the West and NATO.

She lives in New Zealand but clearly fears and hates Russians perhaps due to her acceptance of said propaganda campaign.

However, I'd just like to note that you clearly created this account to call out and shame this person.

Perhaps you have some personal history here and you are hiding behind a new account to obscure your bad behavior regarding this poster and her post.

Finally, I'd like to point out SW is US based and the US doesn't have hate speech laws.

So my suggestion is to block this person, or confront her directly and not make it some sort of phony moral thing where you involve the admins and community here for a personal beef.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
NurseKel · 36-40, F
they are jealous of Russians.
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pdxlinux · 41-45, M
@NurseKel BINGO
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
not technically so feel free to report them. They won't be banned though
Jake966 · 56-60, M
Hate speech is apparently welcome here because if you have different views of someone else, they can call you all kinds of names in order to try and prove their point
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Jake966 No, Jake, you're addressing rudeness based on your past intolerance.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire no I see it done to others also
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pdxlinux · 41-45, M
i think that you nailed it and it also applies to the united states in general. yes, defamation of a group if it is european or russian is not only permissible, it is encouraged as justice.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
FYI Russians are Caucasians! Look up where the Caucasus mountain range is!

That's their race including all of Europe!

I have no love for China in the Olympics. Yet have no problem with other Asians, like Japan, going!

Does that make me a racist? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Third point. And as much I dislike it. Name calling isn't considered hate speech.

By Roman standards I'm a barbarian! My parents where born in what was considered Gaul!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@emiliya I'm not narcissistic. In fact this site hid your reply because of the language. And didn't notify me!

They are punishing you!


The definition you gave is the legal definition. Which is wishy washy. They joined the two definitions because they refuse to make a distinction.

In no way in archeology is a race a ethnicity!
emiliya · 22-25, F
@DeWayfarer It is a definition that is widely accepted and not limited. Why don't you stop making foolish comments?

Why have you raised the subject of archaeology? Do you think there is a difference between someone from Syria or Lebanon between someone from France or Belgium? We know that ethnic groups exist because of what we see. People have different skin tones, different facial features, different types of hair, and different body types. This can all be tested in their blood and saliva. A skeleton in archaeology reveals nothing compared to what we see and what we can test in a living body. Caucasians are very diverse as they include Middle Easterners and North Africans, but that is not going to be very visible to an archaeologist when they are long dead.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@emiliya I specifically did not say biologically because biology doesn't involve culture at all! Which ethnicity does.

That is the difference between the two! There are many cultures in each race. Race is the bigger group! Hense RACISM!

You are insisting there is no difference by that definition, when there distinctly is a difference. Racism is not ethnicity!

Heck there are many ethnic cultures even each country! You named a few yourself. Where a race crosses many countries, even continents.

ALL OF EUROPE AND BEYOND even into Russia and Ukraine is Caucasian!

I mentioned above that my mother side is likely from Ukraine! That still makes me 100% Caucasian!

That is my race!

To insult my race is to insult all Caucasians! That is racism.

Yet my culture on my mother's side is gypsy! A conglomerate of cultures! There is no such thing as gypsy ethnicity because of the conglomerate of cultures. Yet even my mother was gypsy because she traveled throughout all of Europe!

This is why Hitler never was considered a racist against gypsies! Despite him slaughtering them worse than Jews! Jews were considered better than gypsies by Hitler. Often gypsies were shot on the spot! Not even taken into prison camps!

The only thing worse than a jew by Hitler WAS GYPSIES!

Why do I know this? Because my great grandfather on my father's side was mistaken for a gypsy and shot on the spot by the Germans in Czechoslovakia! He was Czech! My father went to prison camp though. As a political prisoner!

Racism is absolutely not ethnicity! My family's story on both sides is the reason why!

Your racist definition doesn't include Gypsies! They traveled Everywhere, including Russia itself!

My grandmother on my mother's side was born in Ukraine. My mother was born in Romania, my oldest half sister was born there as well. My next oldest half sister was born in Germany, my half brother was born in Czechoslovakia, my two younger half sisters were born and died in Hungary!

All this was during and before WWII! I state this to prove my mother was gypsy.

The whole family traveled EVERYWHERE! Yet the Germans tortured my mother with experimental operations. Because she was Gypsy! She escaped them. Don't ask me how. Definitely not on her own.

Yet she showed me the scar herself, over her left kidney! I wasn't supposed to be born because of that operation. Her kidney was still roving!

Why wasn't this prosecuted after WWII? Because it wasn't considered racism! Genocide of gypsies wasn't RACIST!

Yet genocide of the Jewish people was racist!
Your best bet is to report anything you consider "hate speech." That's what the flag in the upper right is for.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@ElwoodBlues Maybe I did. I can also make a post about it.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues Sometimes SW Does something about it, and sometimes SW just uses the block option for you without telling you about it.
4meAndyou · F
This is a very free website. I suggest you block the person who posted something offensive to you.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@emiliya @newjaninev2

Glad you too were able to hash it out instead of making it an admin or community problem.
MissyChrissy · 18-21, F
Neither, Miss.
Its never acceptable.
Fentonisfree · 51-55, MVIP
I think it’s important to support Ukraine, that being said lot of Russians, don’t support Putin,
Can you imagine Farage getting in to power in the UK?

Reform are an extreme right wing party similar to Nazi Germany.
I would never support them but what if they were the government scary isn’t it?
Fentonisfree · 51-55, MVIP
@emiliya https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/reform-candidates-nigel-farage-election-clacton-b1167353.html
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Fentonisfree The article features this comment from Nigel Farage: "In some cases one or two people let us down and we let them go."

If Nigel Farage believes that Reform are "let down" by unfortunate comments, and sees it fit to remove those who say them, how is his party similar to the Nazi Party? The Nazi Party or a party similar to the Nazi Party would embrace such members.

You need to think about this critically.
Fentonisfree · 51-55, MVIP
@emiliya [media=https://youtu.be/z_aVqQ_ru0U]
Selective hate speech and racism, yes.
Adstar · 56-60, M
If you cannot handle what someone here says then the easy solution is to block them..
dale74 · M
I'm not sure that hate speech is permitted or discouraged but speech is free it's not there not to offend. Everybody is entitled to their opinion no matter how ignorant it is. I'm at an awesome person when I was in Taiwan he was from Russia we met at a convenience store 711 had some of the best conversations with him while I was there he offered me some vodka before I left. Not wanting to be rude I accepted the Vodka even though I don't normally drink.
You can basically say anything without consequences here. I reported a user here who would sign off all his posts with a nazi slogan and nothing was ever done.

And well because you are Russian dehumanization is arguably encouraged here by many.
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Sidewinder · 36-40, M
Hate, as a concept in and of itself is a vast area, as there are so many things, and concepts that one can hate.

I however have an intense hatred of unfairness, inequality and double standards.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
No. You can report the post for it. Them if they keep doing it or block them if you want.
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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
No but it has to be reported and the admins have to decide it counts.
It's against the TOS, but the mods don't usually do anything. I take it upon myself to roast the racists here.
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
Rasicim is should not be encouraged by anyone here.... Indians will never leave Russians whether whole world will turn against it!
Long live Russians -Indians friendship 🫂
SW-User
The admin don't really seem to care about racism or homophobia on this site, sadly.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SW-User It's a little complicated, but they actually do. I'll let them explain it if they see fit, because I don't want to do their job for them.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
I got a warning from admin. once for telling someone to speak American.
SW-User
Meh. Victory to Russia 🇷🇺😁
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Therealsteve · 31-35, M
I'm British, and I've been called a "scone scoffing sod" and told "run back to your queen...oh wait, she dead!"
helenS · 36-40, F
@Therealsteve The Tatra Mountains must be amazing!
Therealsteve · 31-35, M
@helenS I've still got to go! So far I've visited a couple of castles. I've only been here a few weeks and waiting to start my job to earn trip money.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@MissyChrissy I see your generation finally rejecting the shame that Germans carried for 80 years, and that's excellent.
smiler2012 · 61-69
@emiliya 🤔sadly siomilar worlds has a core of vindictive people and politics seems too fuel there hatred
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specman · 51-55, MVIP
@SW-User you seem so happy to be on the losing side!
SW-User
@specman Losing? 😂 Russia is going to collapse any day now yeah?

So your argument is pretty much might makes right yeah?
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MissyChrissy · 18-21, F
@newjaninev2 Thank you very much Ma'am. But guys like this british hater prefer to remind us on the shame our forefathers are responsible for, so that the hate never ends.
MissyChrissy · 18-21, F
@newjaninev2 Btw, Ma'am, I messaged you twice a while ago but you never answered. Maybe they went to the requests folder?
Please lets chat in private. I will prove my identity and explain anything.
Greyjedi · M
Yes, otherwise republicans would rage saying there is no free speech and threatened to sue the creators or worse.
Matt85 · 36-40, M
Andrew is black so I dont think so.
LandOfOz · 61-69, M
NO NOT PERMITTED
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
Not really permitted. I don't like painting all Russians that way.

I do agree it is valid to exclude them from international peacetime activities. But the barbarians are the people in the Kremlin, not the everyday citizen of Russia. And the person calling all Russians as barbarians is engaging in hate speech.

Passions over the aggressive invasion of Ukraine are high, and that emotional outrage has people willing to look the other way. It's terrible, but history is full of this same behavior.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Of course. If it is against whites or conservatives.
Khenpal1 · M
lol, category 3, sub humans ..Not going to argue with the painter. 😂
Yeah. It is unfortunate but in the West people have been trained from toddlers to hate Russians since 1917.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow And yet, the Russians were allies to the British and Americans up until 1945.
@Sidewinder Only because they were happy to let Russians die for European empires. You don't have to like a nation to offer them up as cannon fodder. In fact it is better if you don't.

Now it is Ukraine's turn to die for western empires.
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pancakeslam · 41-45, M
But it's not racist when we do it!
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emiliya · 22-25, F
@Thewhazzupdude When did the Russian tennis players at Wimbledon engage in any of the above? Most of them no longer reside in Russia, and they do not support Putin.

Ukraine also bombs civilians.
swirlie · F
Technically speaking, Racism and hate speech are not permitted on SW as evidenced by what's clearly written in this website's Terms of Service.

The way Racism and hate speech flagging is handled by the Admins however, is to block the offending user from YOUR username. This means that others on this site still get to listen to the offender from one post to the next.

The reason the Admins block YOU and the offender from each other after you've flagged them, is because Racism and hate speech are subjective perceptions.

Subjective means, that what I think about someone's comments isn't necessarily what someone else thinks he meant nor is what I think he said necessarily what the alleged offender had intended to imply in the first place.

Therefore, to block me from the offender satisfies my perception of having the person flagged and blocked from the website because their posts are no longer visible in my feed.
swirlie · F
@LordShadowfire
No you're not! You said that last time, yet here you are still!
emiliya · 22-25, F
@LordShadowfire You said: “If I flag something as such, it's because that was clearly the intent. And I don't want this person to just be blocked, I want them to have a little warning on their profile. In fact, I'd prefer not to block that person, because there's a couple of people I know and otherwise get along with who like to use words and phrases that are objectively hate speech.”

Maybe they are not your friends, but you say you get along with them. If that is true, why do you want their account to be limited? This is what happens when you have a warning on your profile. It is supposed to be a punishment. Why do you want that for someone you get along with?
swirlie · F
@emiliya

LordShadowfire, You said: - “If I flag something as such, it's because that was clearly the intent. And I don't want this person to just be blocked, I want them to have a little warning on their profile. In fact, I'd prefer not to block that person, because there's a couple of people I know and otherwise get along with who like to use words and phrases that are objectively hate speech.”


Maybe they are not your friends, but you say you get along with them. If that is true, why do you want their account to be limited? This is what happens when you have a warning on your profile. It is supposed to be a punishment. Why do you want that for someone you get along with?

Emiliya, let me tell you a little bit of history about LordShadowfire. First of all, he just blocked me today because I called him out for spreading lies and making false rumors about me in your thread here, none of which he could prove.

Secondly and to your question quoted above, LordShadowfire has a very long history on this website of 'flagging' people with the intent of having them banned from this website for making Racist comments or for encouraging pedophilia.

The thing is however, there are actual 'groups' on SW which the Admins of this site created themselves regarding Racism and pedophilia for the express purpose of the SW membership entering into a discussion with other members with, involving either of those two approved discussion groups.

However, even if you are having a very objective anti-Racist, anti-pedophilia discussion with another member of SW and LordShadowfire happens to stumble into the conversation at hand and joins in without warning or invitation, he will flag ALL participants of that discussion and go to great lengths to convince the Admins that the members involved were PROMOTING Racism and pedophilia on Similar Worlds.

The very first thing the Admins will do before checking the authenticity of his complaint, will be to SUSPEND all flagged users from this website for upwards of 8 months!

That is what LordShadowfire has done to dozens of members of this website, including long-time VIP members who paid money to be here but got banned from SW because of the false claims that LordShadowfire had made against them involving Racism and pedophilia.

That's who LordShadowfire is, nothing but an absolute low-life internet troll who's only intent in being here on SW is to set the world straight as he sees it by flagging everyone whom he doesn't agree with in principle, to then make false claims against them for the express purpose of putting a 'little warning on their profile' at least, or more preferably, to have them banned from SW entirely.

Do not waste your time trying to ask LordShadowfire why he does what he does because you'll never get a straight answer from him.

What I know for sure about this clown is that he's almost 50 years old, he still lives with his parents, he never leaves their house, he spends 90% of his day sitting in front of his computer playing video games and loitering on SW. He has significant mental health problems which he brings to this website, none of which he has ever been called-out for by the Admins for his extremely caustic, antisocial behavior.
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emiliya · 22-25, F
@Thewhazzupdude Why would anyone be proud of death and the misery of children?

Only a very small group of people can be held responsible for bombing a children's hospital, a maternity hospital, and a medical clinic, and they are the men who ordered it and fulfilled this order. No other person is responsible.

Ukraine has also been targeting civilians, but I will not blame Ukrainians who have no part in it.
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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@MarmeeMarch There's nothing like being a real commie.
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specman · 51-55, MVIP
@MarmeeMarch That’s pretty strong language there!

You must be a Russian that lives in Russia.
What’s your take on Russia illegally annexing parts of Ukraine? Or the unprovoked invasion of Ukraine? Or their whining over Ukraine striking back on Russian territory? I mean come on it’s okay for you to invade but the country you invaded is not allowed to strike back on your soil? How about the many times Russia harassed or crashed the USA drones in international airspace unprovoked?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
https://similarworlds.com/culture-race/racism-discrimination/disliking-racism/5073794-Imagine-being-such-a-horrible-person-that-you-defend-the
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
They aren't supposed to be. If somebody is posting that kind of trash, and reporting it doesn't help, open up a help ticket.

 
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