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Are racism and hate speech permitted on Similar Worlds?

A post was recently made referring to Russians as "barbarians," adding that Russian tennis players who are playing at Wimbledon are "contaminating" it. These players are all neutral, and most of them live outside of Russia. Some of them have dual citizenships and live in Kazakhstan, Spain, Italy, USA and other countries, but the user responsible for this hatred and racism still objects to them playing at Wimbledon.

This has led me to question whether racism and hate speech are permitted on this website? Is it acceptable or encouraged to say vile things about a nationality or ethnic group? Or is it only acceptable or encouraged when the nationality or ethnic group is Russian?
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redredred · M
I just want the killing to stop. Zelenskyy is, at best, a tiny bit better than Putin but to the average Ukrainian it can’t matter much which of these two is in charge.

Get a neutral party, Japan,Peru, Canada or somebody to organize peace talks and stop shooting.
@redredred
but to the average Ukrainian it can’t matter much which of these two is in charge.

If Putin gave up, the war would end. If Zelenskyy gave up, the war would end, but Ukraine would be part of Russia, and WWIII would begin since Putin would attack a NATO country next.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@redredred It's quite amazing, how someone that votes, cheers and hangs out with far-right radicals, still makes the liberal mistake by thinking that you can do diplomacy with them that leads to some kind of peacefull consensus.
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@BohemianBabe
Putin would attack a NATO country next.
There's literally no basis for this assumption
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@redredred Countries fighting an invading force suspend elections... they're simply not logistically feasible. Britain did the same during WWII.

average Ukrainian would be better off
Ukrainians would cease to exist, and their sovereign democracy would be expunged.
The hollow man has made that very clear, especially through his media mouthpieces.
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@redredred You're trying to make a false equivalence... unless President Zelensky invaded russia, stole 20,000 russian children, threatens nuclear war, and is happy sending meat waves into assaults regardless of combat-readiness or casualties.
putin could end the war today by simply getting off Ukraine's soil. Instead, he is dispassionate about 550,000 russians (who used to be russia's future) being buried in that soil... all for his neurotic fantasy.
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emiliya · 22-25, F
@newjaninev2 This is how hateful and biased you are; you are unable to handle a neutral view.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@emiliya A neutral view? What have you been smoking?
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Kwek00 You say: "You'll quickly find that liberals usually use soft-power instead of hard power. Are married to the idea that politics need to be resolved in institutions and through diplomacy and consensus. ... Sadly though, that concept only works when all the actors at the table share these values and strive towards peacefull solutions."

Can you tell us why a "peaceful solution" has not been pursued? Russia is open to dialogue and has proposed ways to stop the war. The West has isolated Russia and refuses to engage in dialogue. Ukraine only considers one possibility for peace, and it is all on its terms, and it compromises Russia. Both sides always get to have a say, unless one of them is defeated and left powerless. Russia is not defeated and powerless, so they would have to be listened to in a peace plan. Arming Ukraine and insisting on war is not how peace is achieved. You can say that Ukrainian nationalism and "independence" from Russia are more important to Ukraine, but you cannot say that Ukraine and its western allies strive towards the end of this war or peace between these two countries.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Kwek00 He neither favors Russia nor Ukraine. This is called a neutral view.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@emiliya So, Russia comes in, takes your stuff. It actively teaches it's citizens, that Ukraine doesn't really excist. Ukraine according to Russia, belongs to Russia because they have rewritten history. When Trump speaks about history and wants to introduce a "pro-American curriculum that celebrates the "truth"", well... Russia is already putting their pro-Russian curriculum into practise. You say that it believes in "peacefull sollutions", what does that mean exactly? It means accepting their distorted version of reality, meaning that Ukraine needs to loose their stuff. And those are people you believe you can make "peacefull solutions"? Who are you kidding, you don't even understand the mindset that these people are in.

His sollution to problem, is the same as yours, delusional. You refuse to accept what you are dealing with, and you believe that you can negotiate with a guy that only believes in power. That's a fatal flaw.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Kwek00 You don't know anything about Russia. None of this is taught or practiced there, and your commentary is a joke.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@emiliya
The notion that Ukraine is not a country, but a historical part of Russia, appears to be deeply ingrained in the minds of Russian leadership. Competing interpretations of history have turned into a key ingredient of the deepening dispute between Russia and the West and a subject that Putin in particular appears to feel unusually passionate about. In this article, Dr Björn Alexander Düben explores the question, is it historically accurate to claim that Ukraine has never truly been a nation or state in its own right??

For more than twenty years, Vladislav Surkov was a known quantity in Vladimir Putin’s Kremlin. Dubbed the ‘Grey Cardinal’ and the Kremlin’s main ideologist, Surkov is commonly regarded as the mastermind of Putin’s Ukraine policy which plunged Moscow into open conflict with the West. By late February 2020, however, he had apparently fallen from grace and was unexpectedly sacked from his position as personal advisor to the president. [...] True to form, within days of his dismissal he stirred up fresh controversy by publicly questioning the existence of Ukrainian statehood. In an interview published on 26 February, Surkov stated that “there is no Ukraine. There is Ukrainian-ness. That is, a specific disorder of the mind. An astonishing enthusiasm for ethnography, driven to the extreme.” Surkov went on to claim that Ukraine is “a muddle instead of a state. […] But there is no nation. There is only a brochure, ‘The Self-Styled Ukraine’, but there is no Ukraine.”

“Ukraine is not even a state”

Surkov is not the first Russian official to make such a claim. The notion that Ukraine is not a country in its own right, but a historical part of Russia, appears to be deeply ingrained in the minds of many in the Russian leadership. Already long before the Ukraine crisis, at an April 2008 NATO summit in Bucharest, Vladimir Putin reportedly claimed that “Ukraine is not even a state! What is Ukraine? A part of its territory is [in] Eastern Europe, but a[nother] part, a considerable one, was a gift from us!” In his March 18, 2014 speech marking the annexation of Crimea, Putin declared that Russians and Ukrainians “are one people. Kiev is the mother of Russian cities. Ancient Rus’ is our common source and we cannot live without each other.” Since then, Putin has repeated similar claims on many occasions. As recently as February 2020, he once again stated in an interview that Ukrainians and Russians “are one and the same people”, and he insinuated that Ukrainian national identity had emerged as a product of foreign interference. Similarly, Russia’s then-Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev told a perplexed apparatchik in April 2016 that there has been “no state” in Ukraine, neither before nor after the 2014 crisis.

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SOURCE: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseih/2020/07/01/there-is-no-ukraine-fact-checking-the-kremlins-version-of-ukrainian-history/


If you want... I can give you more sources.
I also advice you to look into Alexander Dugin and his 4th political theory, who also advocates for neo-Eurasianism and pushes for Russian Imperialism. Putin is just one of those leaders that are pretty close to almost full out Fascistic, it's not even a hyperbole if you start figuring out how schools are now pushing militairism in the classrooms and just teaching a romantic myth about how great Russia is, devoided of all it's short commings. And how they have the right to reclaim their lost territories.

But you just keep pretending that everything is normal... in Russia. Where journalists and dissidents randomly fall out of windows, get poisoned by radioactive material, shot on the street or get imprisoned and just die in their cells.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Kwek00 You claimed that Russia believes Ukraine belongs to Russia. You also claim that Russia has "rewritten history." What history has it rewritten?

What "pro Russian curriculum" are you talking about?

All you have done is cite a former official and copied an article from a blog from LSE. What do you think you are proving with this? Have you ever been to Russia, or are you just reading all of this online?

Ukraine is a country that neighbors Russia and shares a history with Russia. A significant number of Russians live in eastern Ukraine. Ukraine is a developing nation, and it has many issues with corruption. Donetsk and Lugansk are known to be violent, and atrocities have been committed against Russians. Russia has lived alongside an independent Ukraine for more than thirty years now, and it has been continued interference from the West and the expansion of a western military alliance that has significantly contributed to the emergence of this conflict. Russia has its agenda, and the West has theirs. They are different agendas, although there could be harmony if Russia were occasionally listened to and treated with some consideration. It considers the expansion of a western military alliance to be a threat, but the West does not want to listen to that. Countries are diverse places, and they have every right to be different. Russia has the right to not submit to western interests.

In Russia, Ukraine is seen as a close, neighboring country where a sizable number of the population have friends or relatives. However, there is no consensus, emerging or otherwise, that it is not its own nation or is part of Russia. This is propaganda and silly talk that you have found on western blogs.

Are you aware of how much the West has interfered in Ukraine, and attempted to with Russia?

You say: "Where journalists and dissidents randomly fall out of windows, get poisoned by radioactive material, shot on the street or get imprisoned and just die in their cells."

What is different about the West? Contract killing happens there too. Reputation destruction and character assassination are other ways democracy and freedom are controlled. People are imprisoned if they take it too far, regardless of where they are. You should concentrate on your own affairs.
redredred · M
@BohemianBabe Please demonstrate the source of your claim that Putin, already seriously weakened by a long war with a minor power like Ukraine, would attack NATO backed by the US, Great Britain and others.
redredred · M
@newjaninev2 Describe your vision of the endgame if Ukraine does not surrender.
redredred · M
@Kwek00 Describe your vision of the endgame if Ukraine does not surrender.
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@BohemianBabe
Putin has repeatedly said he wants to rebuild the Russian Empire

Links please
@SW-User https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/10/europe/russia-putin-empire-restoration-endgame-intl-cmd/index.html

Before you say "but it's CNN," they show a video of Putin arguing that past governments of Russia were right for "taking back" territory that used to be part of Russia.
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@BohemianBabe Mate did you read the transcript?
@SW-User I read every transcript.

So back to the video. Putin defends his repeated annexations by talking about how Russia did the right thing in the past by invading territory that was previously taken from it. Do you think Putin is just going to stop after Ukraine?
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@BohemianBabe Tell me which annexations he mentioned in the transcript