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Are racism and hate speech permitted on Similar Worlds?

A post was recently made referring to Russians as "barbarians," adding that Russian tennis players who are playing at Wimbledon are "contaminating" it. These players are all neutral, and most of them live outside of Russia. Some of them have dual citizenships and live in Kazakhstan, Spain, Italy, USA and other countries, but the user responsible for this hatred and racism still objects to them playing at Wimbledon.

This has led me to question whether racism and hate speech are permitted on this website? Is it acceptable or encouraged to say vile things about a nationality or ethnic group? Or is it only acceptable or encouraged when the nationality or ethnic group is Russian?
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Take things with a grain of salt and regulate your own feelings. Being nice is encouraged, but if every statement needs a disclaimer, a trigger warning, or a censor, there can't be much of a public forum. Of course, outright hate and threats posing is not permitted, but calling out a nation-state like Russia for its warmongering dictatorship is in bounds.

If the athletes you claim are pure and innocent are representing Russia they should not be allowed to participate no matter where they reside because Russia should not be represented. That's not racism or hate; that's common sense.

Be brave instead of allowing your feelings to get so hurt, so fast, and so frequently.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MarkPaul You say: "If the athletes you claim are pure and innocent are representing Russia they should not be allowed to participate no matter where they reside because Russia should not be represented. That's not racism or hate; that's common sense."

Do you apply this rule to other countries? Should USA and UK have been banned from international sports tournaments after the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? What is the criteria for being banned?

Why do you think banning neutral Russian athletes is "common sense"?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@emiliya The leader of Russia has been declared a war criminal by an international tribunal. His behaviour, representative of Russia, is that of criminal. The UK doesn't fit into that category of crimes. Neither does the USA. If the athletes want to compete, they would need to renounce their Russian loyalties. Period.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MarkPaul Vladimir Putin, along with Maria Lvova-Belova, were issued warrants for "unlawful deportation and transfer of Ukrainian children from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation, contrary to article 8(2)(a)(vii) and article 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute."

These are what you call allegations. It is only believed that Putin may be responsible for unlawfully deporting children from Ukraine to Russia. He, therefore, may not be a war criminal. It is possible that, if it went to trial, the ICC would not find him guilty.

I have to ask: Who is making these rules? Are you making them? Where does it say that if the ICC issues an arrest warrant for the leader of a country, the nationals from this country, including those living outside of it and possessing dual citizenship, must not be allowed to enter international competitions?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@emiliya Why are you defending Vladimir Putin, may I ask? Do you favour what he is doing? What are your intentions... exactly? As far as the allegations against him... if he (and you) believes in his innocence then I suggest he appear for a hearing. Refusing to appear (as he is doing) is NOT helping his (or your) case. As far as the athletes go, yes they are getting tied up in global politics. But, that's just the way of the world. Welcome to earth.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MarkPaul Where have I defended him? I said he has not been declared guilty of any war crimes by the ICC, and this is a statement of fact.

"But, that's just the way of the world. Welcome to earth."

Is that so? I think it is just the way of your head. You have invented all of this. MarkPaul is delusional.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@emiliya Did any Russian agents remove Ukrainian children to Russia? If they did then pootin is solely responsible and should face a firing squad of 12 troops firing 50 caliber machine guns at him.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Diotrephes It is an accusation. Do you know what that is?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@emiliya All that is needed is one Ukrainian child who was removed from Ukraine by a Russian agent. When such a victim is produced, then pootin is guilty and should face a firing squad.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Diotrephes Can you find this victim? Have they been produced? Until they are, this is speculation.

Putin has not been tried, and he has not been found guilty.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@emiliya The victims are propably in a prison in Siberia being indoctrinated into becoming commies.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@emiliya
Can you find this victim?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

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emiliya · 22-25, F
@newjaninev2 What does this have to do with neutral Russian athletes playing at Wimbledon?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@emiliya Why do you append the word 'neutral'?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@emiliya Well, now you're being hateful. And, I don't like it.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@newjaninev2 I append words that are important. The Russian men and women you refer to as "barbarians" are neutral. This means that they have pledged no support for Putin or the war in Ukraine. Most of them reside in other countries, and some have dual citizenships.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MarkPaul What are you going to do about it? Is your lack of approval something I should care about?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@emiliya That doesn't make them neutral, honey.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MarkPaul What does it make them?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@emiliya Yeah you should. care about it. I'm trying to give you some life-guidance here.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@emiliya It makes them accessories. Accomplices. Yes, that's right.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MarkPaul Can you explain to me, with the players having declared their neutrality, how they are not neutral? They have pledged no support for Putin.

So far, you have said that Putin is a war criminal when he has been convicted of nothing, and denied that these players are neutral when that is what they have declared themselves to be. What do you know that the rest of the world doesn't?
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MarkPaul You are only getting more absurd.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@emiliya I just think you are over-reacting. you are hyper-sensitive, and you are choosing to have your feelings hurt. But, let me be specific and crystal clear.

If a Russian is a citizen of Russia then he/she is responsible (to varying degrees, I acknowledge but still responsible) for what her/his country does on the world stage. So, yes Russian citizens should be banned from participating in world athletic games and be subject to all other global sanctions because of their bad behaviour on that world stage.

Quesitons...?
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MarkPaul Do you apply this to all other countries? When your country engages in war and is accused of a war crime, will you appreciate that you and all other citizens in your country are responsible? You will be punished, along with your fellow citizen, by the international community for your "bad behavior" on the world stage. Are we in agreement?

It does not matter if your country is what some claim to be authoritarian or a dictatorship. You are a citizen, and you are responsible.