With new virus strain announced today "the African varient."
What are we gonna do as this strain is said to be more deadly n more dangerous to health n existing vaccines won't help effectively to fight against it!!
About the only true statement in there is the vaxes don't work. All the rest is argle bargle. I am immune. I had the disease and I am done. My immune system works.
Because it's up to the person who makes a claim to provide evidence that substantiates it. It's called the burden of proof.
Otherwise I could for instance say I've seen a video of you sucking off a donkey and tell you to do your own research. Meaning it would be true until you could somehow prove it's not.
I think that mutation has the potential to make newer strains more potent than others, but this rhetoric being pushed around in the media about every new strain being "more deadly than the last" is fearmongering, an attempt to control the actions and beliefs of the populace. I'm not attempting to imply or make a statement about the effectiveness of the vaccines, or lack thereof, but I think we should be wary of who is saying what, how they're saying it, and how their careful choice of the words they use to describe their own point of view could reveal to us the "why" behind the way they're telling their side of the story.
@NerdyPotato The book explains this "fact" precisely. Because F wanted to be able to exclude hydroxychloroquin and ivermectin, cheap solutions proved by other scientists both in the US and in other countries, so as to be able to promote the vaccines with no competition, he did minimal trials, as I said, arranged to cause damage through wrong doses givenat the wrong time, and then triumphantly proclaimed that hydroxychloroquine et al were poisonous! It's easy if you have the funds, ths clout, the friends, mixed with a healthy (or maybe deadly would be a better word) dose of unscrupulousness!
And then you make sure that the media follows your story, rubbishes the cheap and effective solutions, and you sit back and watch the billions flowing in while the people die.
@WalterF So bigger studies have been done on those things and the stories of people being admitted to the hospital with signs of poisoning after taking these cures are fake? 😲
@NerdyPotato Maybe not all fake, who knows? Maybe some people took too much and ytoo late, didn't get advice, didn't follow the protocols for treatment issued for example by Doctors Against Covid... But in any case, the media exaggerates in order to get their message across. And the message was / is that the only solution is the vaccine. (The media are funded worldwide to the tune of billions by Gates - the vaccine man.) Thus, people catching Covid were sent home with no treatment, till they had to go to hospital, where the only treatment was the ventilator - itself fatal to many very ill patients.
Whereas there were initial, cheap treatments.
Many many died unnecessarily. This puts a whole new slant on Fauci's cover-up...
NB He now recommends remdesivir, which is a dangerous substance, often rejected in clinical trial for other diseases, and will not help the ill. (Hospital staff have been known to call it "Run, death is near") But it's a good money-spinner, of the type that costs $4 per treatment to manufacture but can be sold on for ten or a hundred times that rate.
Fauci has so much authority that the world listens to him. While the fact-checkers, Facebook etc, silence the voices who put forward sound evidence-based alternatives, because those in power would make no money with them.
It's a nest of vipers. Best thing is to read the book.
The reason I’m guessing this new variant came out is because the Delta variant couldn’t really get the traction to keep the Thanksgiving holiday from being ruined “again”. Well, Christmas is less than a month away. Can the usual suspects use this new variant to frighten us from getting together at not only Christmas but New Year’s eve( especially in NYC) and 1 Jan. ‘22 as well? I recommend listening to how this possibly may play into both events. Put nothing past the “ follow the science”, lockdown, masks and social distancing, you need a “ booster” cabal.
Instead of there being more variants we need to able to fight the variants we have in existence already without the total number variants going up it makes you wonder when n how its gonna end the things are going on. We need an effective vaccine to cover all variants as they exist n as they appear!!
@Senecaa Sorry but vaxing is exactly the wrong way to go. We need to use effective therapies to treat the ill not try to prevent the illness since preventions such as vaxes are what in part cause the variants.
The current NY Governor is placing the state in a state of emergency over this new “ variant”...but doesn’t take place until 3 Dec. My guess? She’s Cuomo’s fill in since his departure sans a “ farewell tea” as the head honcho of NY, and an election for the Governor’s seat in coming up and there’s a fairly good field of contenders. Got to look like she’s on top of this.
I heard the new strain is located in Botswana, and that there are at least 23 new strains there. We need to blockade all travel from Botswana and African nations surrounding it, and we need to find out if the Chinese have a second Wuhan lab located there.
@carpediem Unfortunately, I think you're right. The actions of Joe Biden's White House, and those of the Democrat Marxist Congress seem to indicate a desire to kill all the red states elderly people early, before they can either collect social security, or infect the young with their belief in the Constitution of the United States.
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout the test just magically made in seconds for the4 new virus. it took months for the covid 19 testing to be introduce to the Public
People are so bad at evolution by natural selection. Of course there are mutations. But it doesn't mean that the next one is more deadly. That is just a very dumbed down way of saying the next varient is more successful for its environment than the last. Yes it COULD be more deadly. But things have to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominatinator so much that what is actually happening gets lost to the public. This will take a long time to build a herd immunity to but at least the conspiracy freaks will continue to reduce themselves while the actual pro-life people will choose life and get their shots.
The “Nu” variant. A guy on GB News said they don’t know if it’s more virulent or not. Usually, a mutation causes a virus to become more transmissible but less deadly. I know I’m sick and tired of it.
Cases are already being reported in mainland Europe. If it becomes the dominant variant it will eventually spread to all other countries. All a person can do is follow the advice being given by the people who matter, i.e. the people who are the best public health officials across the world, those who are qualified to give such advice and have many years of experience working in this field.
If for example, someone online offers advice contrary to that being given by your government, ask them how they are qualified to give it, before you contemplate following it.
It’s everywhere. This is going on for almost two-years now. I can’t list every single source, but start simple, like the lies from Fauci. “Don’t wear masks, they don’t work.” Then he says to wear masks, but the cloth ones (which don’t actually work). Then he says he only told us masks don’t work, so we wouldn’t buy them, and leave them for medical staff. Then he says wear two masks, then one mask. Then he can’t answer about natural immunity. He says he doesn’t know. We all know (and it’s proven in the latest study from Israel) that natural immunity not only works, but works 27 times better than the vaccine. Then we find he’s the business partner of Bill Gates, and they conducted awful experiments on people in Africa. How about him funding the despicable and cruel sand flies experiments to eat Beagle puppies faces alive? That’s one man, and so much more I could say. Then there is FDA in bed with big Pharma. The MSM paid by Pfizer to promote their vaccine. This is a drop in the ocean of all the corruption out there. I’d have to write a book. Whistleblowers, FDA Top officials resigning, vaccine company employees caught on tape etc. Two-years worth of information. This isn’t just me knowing this. It’s common knowledge. This is why I asked if you’ve been living under a rock. How can you not know this stuff. It’s everywhere. @TheConstantGardener
@Carissimi So I asked where you get your trusted information from. That's the information that you use to make a rational decision. The vaccines are recommended by every Public Health Department across the globe so I would like to know what is the information you have that they don't? BTW, I'm not an American.
We are going to find an unrelated medication or outrageous regimen, like injecting chlorophyll into our blood, and then make up statistics about the number of people who were vaccinated and died and the number of countries that have started to adopt this new use for an unrelated medication or outrageous regimen. Then, we are going to go on the Internet and post this made-up information and feel superiour because we have owned the libs... once again, or at least convinced ourselves of owning them.
@LegendofPeza understand they only discovered its existence three days ago n understand n agree its impossible to know if existing vaccines will or not be less effective or not let's hope they will be.
@LordShadowfire Well calling me an idiot just proves how dumb and disrespectful you are. You can keep on believing Fauci and MSM lies. That's false news. I don't go to YouTube to get my facts. Natural immunity is from getting Covid and not getting reinfected. How many boosters are you going to take? 5? 10? That's how stupid you are. Willing to take multiple boosters to make it go away. Let's see your "facts" then. You should probably wear 10 masks too. I hear they stop the spread of Covid.
Will it ever end I wonder n with it being cold n winter it's not helping anyone very much with having this to fight n deal with its causing misery all round!n with Christmas coming up we don't need more variants causing more problems!!
@swirlie I take Fauci a so called expert. He’s all over the place on this. Sorry I have no confidence in these people. How many perished from the 1918 pandemic? It is estimated that 50 million perished.
Solution: Make sure everyone has at least 4 weeks worth of supplies in their homes. Lockdown for 4 weeks. No one leave their home at all whatsoever for 4 weeks. Virus will still be here probably.
Wasn't that the whole goal of the lockdown to begin with? The idea was if you keep people in their homes, virus won't spread. But I guarantee you there is nothing that can be done.
@wildbill83 No no, not panic buying. When those army core of engineers come in to help out like a flood, and so have the army core of engineers come out, evenly distribute 4 weeks of food between all the states. Doesn't have to be difficult.
I'm sure something like that could be accomplished. But first gotta have people... "working together" GASP!! What a concept!!!
@twiigss would be more effective to have them go around rounding up all the biden groupies, maskers, etc. and put them in internment camps for their own "safety" so the rest of us can go back to living life...
@Senecaa People often feel slightly feverish the day after a booster vaccine. It's proof that they have a bunch of antibodies in their system ready and waiting to fight off Covid. The booster raises the antibody concentration.
@GovanDUNNY I honestly have no way of confirming your breathlessness but if true it is likely vax related. I do sincerely hope you feel better soon. Those vaxes are killers. No one should be forced or coerced into getting them.
@ExperienceDLT yes but who's making it n spreading it that's the problem we just don't know for sure where its come! Till we do we can't effectively stop it!!
@JimboSaturn it doesn't have to be more fatal percentage wise to be very problematic though. It spreading 5 times as fast makes it cause more fatalities even if an infection is only 1/4 as likely to kill you as Delta. Furthermore, death isn't by far the biggest risk. The real worry is a combination of permanent disability making the social security system crumble and hospitals getting overwhelmed, making other diseases and issues way more fatal than they are outside a pandemic.
@maturedragon that's not true. There have been hundreds of mutations, most of them which never became dominant. They've only said about Delta and Nu that it's more infectious and deadly then the one before because they were/are.
@kandy that’s why you get a booster. My friend sure wishes she got vaccinated as she got COVID and needs a kidney transplant. Completely healthy but not anymore. Her kidneys are starting to fail too.
@kandy vaccinated people can still end up in the hospital indeed, but you're missing a bit of context there, namely that there are a lot more vaccinated people.
When there are 35 vaccinated and 65 unvaccinated people in the hospital, the effect of vaccination seems rather limited. But when you consider those 65 come from a population of 150 and those 35 from 850, you get a whole different picture.
@NewRaven Don't forget that last week the news was that Africa by not being vaxed had the lowest covid rates in the world. Can't have that fact get out so time to up the scare factor with a "new variant". I might have been born at night but it wasn't last night. The covid panic pushers are trying to keep up the panic. It is their power grab and has nothing to do with an actual disease.
@hippyjoe1955 totally agree. The whole thing has amped up disagreements too with the panic incited. I really have to watch what I say around family, it’s almost worse than talking politics lol
@NewRaven I know what you mean. My daughter and her fiancé just broke up over the vax. He insisted she get it and she refused. She wants to get married and have babies right away as does he. She heard that the vax is hard on the reproductive system and talked to her OBGYN who said that 100% of the vaxed moms in her care miscarried in the first trimester. The OBGYN has about 2000 clients according to my daughter who was talking to her.
@Wiseacre And - so they say - you might be mowing people down and killing endless grannies just by existing! They say that by not being vaccinated, you are HARMING PEOPLE! Some say that you are a BIO-TERRORIST!
@LordShadowfire Your view of this pandemic is myopic when you try and use any connections to the former President. Do you believe there are people who voted for Biden yet are not in lockstep with him and Gauci on this?
@soar2newhighs He's an idiot that believes MSM, the government, and Fauci. He thinks he's so protected from the Jab and boosters that he thinks we're at risk to him. That proved the Jabs don't work.
Pure bullshit! This is all part of the plan. When things start to get back to normal another variant. Notice how they predict it weeks in advance and already have a name for it? The. They say get a booster, than another and another. Filling your body with God knows what. Stop listening and carry on with your life and fight back!
honestly who gives a fuck at this point. the only way to end it is not complying. people been saying there's been new Variants after Months and months and people just brush it off and continue to move forward. that didn't work for our U.S. Government using those fear tactics.
Sadly I'm sure it's working for other Countries. Joe Biden must be Jealous