Poll: how many regret taking the vaccine

@Fairydust what on earth are you talking about? are you ranting again about being anti-vaccine? have you even seen the "package insert" for the vaccines?

@samueltyler2

The vaccine has weakened their immune system.

@Fairydust And you know that because? There is no evidence of that happening in any studies of humans, I won't go further, since you seem determined to not believe science.

@iamonfire696 Wait...how is that *you* got sexual enhancement boosters?

@SomeMichGuy I am just lucky that way I guess lol

@iamonfire696 But you got MORE than one!

@Fairydust But none of it was based upon scientific principles, and you don't even listen to people who DID look at the 80k pages.

@StevetheSleeve no I’ve been looking deeply into it for over two years, I see what they cover up.
The huge stores they don’t put on the msm.
They hide so much stuff.

Once you know what’s really going on, it’s clear to see. The lies!

@StevetheSleeve No, she's one of the educated smart ones, with common sense. I can't believe everyone fell for this deadly vaccine. Even the best, renowned doctors in Europe tried to warn people not to get it. Along with nurses who lived in that ward with covid patients. Just the fact alone that those nurses refused to go back to their job if they would be forced to give those shots, should tell us all something! They sacrificed their lives to try to save people from that vaccine. I about had a fit when my sister said she was going to take them all. So her and her neighbor went to the clinic at the same time and had the first covid vaccine shot. I'm just grateful that she wasn't the one that died, but her neighbor did, just hours later. What is wrong with people that that would not clearly tell them that hear a person is perfectly healthy, runs every day was in great shape and then just as soon as he gets the shot, he dies. What else could it be? One would have to be plain stupid not to see it. And don't tell me, "Oh, that was just one out of a thousand" or whatever. That's beside the point. Is still confirms that that vaccine is poisonous, a killer. And no matter if it kills only a handful, that's still a handful too much, on untested vaccines. I don't understand why a person would get that vaccine without even questioning what is in it and without knowing the side effects. Boy, when we believe what our government tells us, we'll fall for anything. I'm just thankful my sister is still alive. That could have well been her instead of him, but I don't mean that to say I am not sorry that this poor guy passed away. What a great tragedy for him and his family and for what? I wish he had not died, either. I wish no one had died.

@SomeMichGuy @CestManan Covid is still alive and well, and you can track the progress at the CDC website:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home

An average of 5,269 hospitalizations are being reported daily in the US, with 383 deaths daily. Currently, over 30,000 people are hospitalized, and 1,040,314 people have died of covid so far.

@iamonfire696 My niece who voluntarily went to covid wards to help is a hero .
To say it's all a lie is very ignorant and a slap in the face to those who spent time trying to help .
She watched people die and was shaken by the experience.
She rejoiced when they pulled through.
She wasn't in on any concpiracy ;she was just a compassionate brave human being with the skills to help.

@Justmeraeagain Kudos to your niece. Many health professionals were so shaken by what they experienced that they ended up resigning a profession they loved. They are the true heroes of this pandemic.

32 pages!

🙄💉⚰️

@Fairydust please give me the citation, I would like to see what you are using for this source.

@CestManan You underestimate the power of protesting, my dear. However, you are correct that had it all been a scheme to gather power or make money, they would not have given up.

@Stargazer89 It is my sincere hope that liars like yourself will eventually be silenced.

@CorvusBlackthorne lying for not believing mainstream media?

You socialists always want to silence people. Look at the Nazis. They burned books to silence others and that's what you guys are doing with your canceling etc

@Stargazer89 Appreciate the concern, but I'd like to think that because I went out of my way to get Johnson and Johnson, which is a traditional viral type of vaccine (uses a live/inert virus), that I'll be better off if your theories are correct. 200-300 million people got Moderna and Pfizer.
I can tell you when I was scheduling it, there was only one place in the entire area that had J&J, and only a few doses of it at that. Everywhere else had the other two. Suspicious.
J&J should be no different than getting a typical children's vaccine, I still regret getting it, but I doubt I'll get sick from it.

@ninalanyon I can chime in on a personal level. My mother was pressured by her doctor to get the jab. It was one month after her second dose that she began to experience liver failure followed closely by kidney failure. She never was a drinker and was was healthy. She made it four months before dying.

Talking to the hospice nurses one evening, they said that they had seen a marked increase in liver cirrhosis one renal failure since the roll out of the “vaccines” that are not actually vaccines. I understand that She was just one person, but it is very personal to me.

@3Dogmatic
Condolences. My mother passed from liver and kidney failure as well, although before the outbreak of Covid. May your mother rest in peace.

@3Dogmatic
I’m sorry for your loss.

I’ve read many stories like this online, the media won’t cover it or say it’s natural causes.

@easterniowegin Where are these studies of which you speak?

They contradict the last info from a few months ago, which showed the opposite of what you claim.

I used the studies available at the time.

@SomeMichGuy what studies did you use to prove the vaccine's efficacy?

Are you able to find studies at some time but unable to find others? Or do you need to be spoon-fed all of your info?
You probably just agreed to the shot bc you were told to get one...research be damned.

@easterniowegin No, you have all manner of facts at your fingertips, studies, etc., so I figured you know about *your* claims.

I used the CDC/NIH information. The results of the early studies were available. I don't know authors, etc., but the results were that the initial effectiveness of Pfizer was 95%, ~2 wks after the 2nd injection of the original series.

@BizSuitStacy

@CopperCicada You took all of the evidence under consideration and made a smart decision to get the vaccine. You had a good outcome as a result. While there was no guarantee, you did everything possible to maximize your success. If more Americans had done as you did, we wouldn't have had a million plus Covid dead (and counting).

Dabbing as I read this!

@SW-User This. This is an extremely underestimated side effects that requires more awareness. And it's extremely easy to catch.

You know what's another way for it to spread? Electoral ballots.

Dear concerned readers, do yourself a favor, don't take the covid vaccine and don't vote either! Spare yourselves from this madness

@plungesponge RIP. 😢

@plungesponge Came back as jar jar?!
They'll never stick me!!!*runs*

@Justmeraeagain one of us, one of us

@Oster1 You're drunk AND at work? Like I said, not a good look, Puck.

@Oster1 Far from broke, and far from stupid, and that's you that is the bastard. You lose again AND are drunk at work. Be careful--that's what led you to block me the first time around in a drunken rage.

@windinhishair Right. Just for the record... a lot of people were and are being sent home from the place I work at. They somehow got covid. They all have the "vaccine" and boosters.
Easy to spot them when they return since they must wear face masks.
Anyway...I've had enough of this topic again. It's going nowhere new fast. Same old things happening.

@SW-User The current covid variants are far more transmissible than the earlier ones. The data proves that even if the vaccinated get covid, they are much less likely to be hospitalized or die. That's just a fact.

The "same old things" are happening in this discussion because I believe in using facts, as many people do. If you don't like people who use scientific facts and data, perhaps you should refrain from discussion.

@windinhishair Same old things meaning... name calling, arguing, attacking others..... you seriously can't miss it unless you're turning a blind eye.
Nothing changes! People insult, people argue, etc....
I just don't care to do it and for that you assume and presume....
You all have fun now!

@4meAndyou The theory about it staying in the arm would explain why my arm started hurting when I got covid a month ago. Unless it's some weird muscle memory.

@CrazyMusicLover Nope. They planned for it NOT to travel to other parts of the body...but unfortunately it does travel. I think, with one "vaccination" and two boosters, I have a lump of the stuff down near the bone in my upper arm. I'm wondering if something bad will happen if I get my allergy shots there, too. Anyone who assures me that it won't will just be guessing.

@LizOwen @CassandraSissy

Now go get the Gay jab, 🐵 pox as well, so the gay around can f*ck safely 😋😋

@dubum What a remarkably stupid man you must be.

@dubum And we have a homophobe in the group! Well done that very little man! *Emphasis on VERY little...*

There's a rock with your name on it somewhere out there...whaddaya say you crawl back under it, eh? Be a good chap....

😘

@Justmeraeagain Thank you for your reasonable approach to covid.

The J&J vaccine had some initial problems reported with blood clotting. I believe there were six instances reported our of seven million vaccinations. I'm not sure what the current status is--I haven't checked because the majority of people are receiving the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines in the US.

@windinhishair It is difficult for people to understand what it means to compare events that may have occurred after any intervention, and what happens randomly without that intervention, regardless if it is a vaccine or something else.

@samueltyler2 That's true, which is why it is incumbent for people to rely on the advice of medical professionals for medical decisions. I had a good example of that less than two hours ago. During a routine physical, I asked my primary care doctor about a medication I have been taking and suggested discontinuing because the underlying reason for taking it was marginal. He explained that there were additional, clinical reasons for taking it that I was unaware of, and gave me some articles to read if I was interested. Had I only researched the use of this particular medication, and knowing my personal medical history, I would have stopped taking it. However, the additional advice he provided shifted me from stopping it to continuing.

@ElwoodBlues well done. Did you look up the % increase of supply in 2020? Im done engaging with you. Cant be doing wasting time speaking to a fully signed up member of this death cult. Its weird at best

@gol979 It would be interesting to know the source of your false claims. I'm guessing there are a few main sources of misleading and misinformation that you and others tap into. Anyway, just to review, so it doesn't scroll away,

@gol979 says Far from it, dude. In the UK in 2020, both Covid deaths and non-Covid deaths were soaring

Why were there so many non-Covid excess deaths? Crowded hospitals and people avoiding treatment for fear of Covid. In the UK in 2020, weekly excess deaths DOUBLED during the initial Covid wave.
They DOUBLED during that wave dude!! No way to hide that sad fact.

@gol979 says
BULLLSHIIIITTT!!! Dude, each time you post another false statistic, you lose more credibility. Do you really want to become the next dippyjoe?
3000 hospital admissions per day, week after week. That's the definition of an overcrowded hospital.

BTW I looked it up. Midazolam is given to dying patients to reduce the pain of death. So that's a complete red herring on your part.

@gol979
But you didn’t engage with him

You simply made a few bullshite claims and then ran away when your duplicity was revealed.

@ElwoodBlues Table 2 from the above article shows how well the vaccines protected vaccinated boostered people against Delta by age. They were very helpful in the 50-64 age group

@Lilymoon I guess you're a liberal who loves all these vaccines

@Lilymoon The polio vaccine is an actual vaccine and not targeted gene therapy. Two completely different things.

@Redstar What different solutions? Shining a light up your rear end? Drinking pool chemicals? If there are other proven solutions, doctors are happy to provide those treatments to their patients. They have a duty to do so and their goal is to help their patients.

The reason that the medical community keeps repeating the phrase "safe and effective" is: 1) it works, as evidenced by billions of doses worldwide and millions of lives saved, and 2) medical professionals are trying to reach people like you who are anti-vaccine without evidence. And yes, professionals WOULD continue to say it again and again despite the vaccine being a huge success because so many people mistakenly believe pseudoscience, youtube videos, and random internet wizards instead of people who follow facts, data, and science.

I am in agreement with your article about perceived truth being influenced by repetition. It worked for Hitler in the 1930s and 1940s, it has been spectacularly effective for Trump and the GQP, QAnon, etc., and it plays a huge role in the anti-vaxxer and denial cult. It is ironic that you are aware of the phenomenon and yet it has no impact on you being deceived and believing disinformation provided by the deniers and others with no science background.

@windinhishair I have never heard of anything that stupid... so, no, obviously not.
Yes, there goal is to help their patients, that's why it's a massive problem that they're not always allowed to do that and it needs to be looked into, not ignored....

Of course you wouldn't pay any attention to the evidence I've shown you. It's only scientific proof, but who needs that's, right??

You're arguing a point on the internet, exactly the same as literally anyone in a youtube video. Therefore, by your own "logic" no one should believe anything you say, so why are you bothering?
But seriously, things are are a lot more online these days, youtube isn't just a place for random people to post dumbass shit, I mean it is still that but there's plenty of educational shit on there, too. Which makes sense, seeing as though anyone with an internet connection, including intelligent people like scientists can upload their own findings and thoughts.
Of course people need to discover things on their own and not just take another persons word for it, which is what we're all doing here anyway.

I wasn't talking about merely saying the same thing, I mean literally repeating it... It is a proven fact, yet you're still acting like it's nothing. And using words like "wizards" to describe people, rather than at least talk about people in realistic terms. You're making people out to be absolute lunatics based on.... what, exactly? Have you ever watched a video of someone talking about this kind of thing? Not just a 3 minute rant, I mean a proper talk where they talk about the specifics.

But alright, go ahead and find me evidence of people like myself using the illusory truth trick.
Meanwhile, here's proof that mainstream media runs off a script:
[media=https://youtu.be/c5IFTBYdxj0]

@Redstar Trump proposed both during one of his press conferences. People actually died ingesting pool chemicals as a result. Disinformation matters.

What information have you shown me that shows the vaccines don't work? I haven't seen any scientific proof from you. And given the billions of doses safely given, and the reduction in deaths afterwords, you have a very high bar to clear to prove they don't work. If there are data out there that show one of the vaccines is problematic, of course scientists want to know that, as does the CDC and NIH. There was an initial indication that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine had an issue with deep vein thrombosis in young women. That was looked into, and out of an abundance of caution, that vaccine is not used as widely as the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines due to the small risk of DVT.

There are some good videos on youtube, but far too many people believe the disinformation that is rampant there. You do as well. If you follow the science, you know that the primary vaccines used in the US do exactly what they are supposed to, with minimal side effects. The data clearly supports their use in the current pandemic.

I'm not sure what your point is about repeating a slogan or sentence word for word. That doesn't make anything true. We know, for example, that Stop the Steal of the 2020 presidential election is based on literally no factual information, and yet a large number of Americans believe it, and are preparing to commit violence based on their commitment to disinformation. Yes, those people are absolute lunatics and a danger to the nation.

If your point is that you can't trust the press for anything because many people use the same term, does that mean when most sportscasters say "The Yankees beat the Red Sox last night 4 to 3" we should reject that outright? And if I came up with a youtube video of 100 of them saying the same thing, it would prove that their information was false?

The bottom line is this--use the available science, data, and facts to come to your own conclusions. When that process is followed, the conclusion is that the vaccines work and save lives. If and when other information indicating a potential problem becomes available, it will be examined in context, as it should be. Until then, we should be glad we have a vaccine against a novel coronavirus that has killed over a million Americans and negatively impacted over 4 million more for a period of time no one yet knows.

@Stargazer89 Tell the families of the literal millions who have died that it is "fake". Be sure to visit them in person.

@Confined
I have joint pain and migrating dull chest pains as well. Puts a damper on my weightlifting efforts, and I really enjoy weightlifting. Long Covid? Too bad, so sad. Oh well, maybe it will all pass given time.

@PatKirby I too suffer joint pain since covid. Not sure if it was the disease itself or the vaccine. I do know I never had joint pain before….

@SomeMichGuy Of course he's a criminal, it's not even hard to find out about https://justice4poland.com/2020/04/24/dr-faucis-long-criminal-history/

It's amazing what a 5 second duckduckgo search can do for ya.

@Redstar
Yes...it has deleted videos about "Bill Gates' ties to Nazis", how philanthropy is all a crock, etc.

Even the guy writing the article has no understanding of how tests for virus exposure work...

You have to think WHILE reading AND look at the context.

If Fauci *were* a criminal, SOMEONE would be all over it.

@SomeMichGuy A lot of people are all over it... 🙄 And no, not just youtubers (not that someone saying something on youtube means it can't be true, just like what we say here doesn't automatically become false).. I'm talking about actual doctors, scientists and just people who give a shit spend a long time researching these things. You don't know that because you don't bother looking into anything and just blindly believe whatever the mainstream media tells you to.
If it's on TV, it must be true.. It's not like the Government and media have a long history of lying or anything....

@ElwoodBlues bc of goernors putting weak immuned people with the virus, in elderly homes. In order to get more of the federal payout. Duhha

@checkoutanytime Moving patients to care homes only happened in one state for a few weeks in April. The autumn 2020 wave was the anti-mask states becoming superspreaders.

@CestManan Ms. Fairydust is good people. Shadow fire is an unhinged idiot with all the emotional maturity and emotional self control of a toddler.

@theAlchemist Shadow and I enjoy aggravating each other. What I don't get though is why people still argue about if the vaccine is a good idea or not. I mean at this point each of us has made up our minds to get it or not. When they talk about getting four shots though, there is no way in hell that could be good for somebody no matter what kind of shot it is. Especially within a 2-year period.

I never got the booster for that reason. @CestManan

@Entwistle no even back then I knew he was lying.

@Fairydust Good.

@Entwistle the question was if I regret getting the vaccine, I said I got it and still got Covid, when you get a vaccine you expect it too keep you from getting the thing you are vaccinating against, not 100 percent but effective. I got the vaccine and don't regret it. Why are you challenging my knowledge of the effectiveness of the covid vaccine.?
#Stop the spread

@Wiseacre

@Elessar Regardless of which side of the covid/vax side someone believes, one thing is for sure - a lot of places were making serious bank for a while and now that it has slowed down, they are surely panicking.

@CestManan I think anyone smart enough to profit from that fully knew it would've been temporary, so no panicking imo

@Elessar You might be right about that.

@gol979 Yup, that is the scariest part and I see it in the other aspects of life now too. There are too many people who ask authorities to control the nature, environment and the lives of others above the limits that are natural and acceptable and they are more than happy to do so. What used to be recommendations are prohibitions now and yet there are people who applaud it.

@CrazyMusicLover well said. Seems people have been so brainwashed they dont trust themselves and have outsourced a huge chunk of responsibility to illegitimate authority. They also despise anyone standing on their own 2 feet, confidence (not arrogance) and conviction

What will it take to knock people out of this trance?

@gol979
Wait until you learn how smallpox was eradicated..

@MrBrownstone What nonsensical Trump-level delusion have you found on some rabbit-hole website... and why have you posted it here?

@newjaninev2 Why does he live on your head?

@MrBrownstone there's nothing else in there. Nature abhors a vacuum