Poll: how many regret taking the vaccine

@Torsten I am glad you were fortunate to avoid an adverse outcome. That doesn't change the fact that the unvaccinated are many times more likely to be hospitalized and die from covid, and to suffer long covid and other impacts.

@windinhishair so I keep hearing yet seeing different

@Torsten How many people do you know who have died in car wrecks? School shootings? Glioblastoma? That doesn't mean those things don't occur.

@windinhishair When you are a father, your subjective experience is just more important then the objective measurements. That's just how it is when you are Torsten. 🤷‍♂️

@windinhishair a few from car wrecks. No school shootings and so on though.
Of course some have died from it but yet not to the degree that people try to spread fear with.
The death numbers are a farce

@Torsten And the source of your data on the number of deaths is?

@Kwek00 yes my actual experience is what I go off to protect me and my family. Anyone else can do as they please for all i care

@windinhishair I dont have one. I know those who spread the numbers are full of shit though

@Torsten And you "know" this how? That the people who use actual data and facts are full of shit?

@windinhishair because most whom have died with covid had other health issues yet its just marked as death by covid. I dont buy it

@Torsten Ah, so you just "know", without proof.

It must be amazing to not ever have to do any science! lol
smh

@SomeMichGuy and you know by blindly believing those in power?
It must be amazing to never logically think for yourself! lol
smh

@Torsten Those are called co-morbidities. But the cause of death was covid. Without covid, those people would not be dead. It is pretty simple really.

@windinhishair is it that simple, is it? How often do you examine the bodies of such people to determine such things?

@Torsten I don't, and neither do you, which is why I rely on coroners and medical doctors and other experts. You don't operate on yourself, do you? I assume you would rely on a medical professional for her/his expertise. Cause of death is no different.

@windinhishair exactly. You dont know more than me. Only difference is i go off of my experiences and what i see first hand. You go blindly off the word of others

@Torsten I see. So you don't use medical doctors, mechanics, accountants, etc. You do your own self-care medically because you cannot blindly rely on the word of others.

@windinhishair I have not gone to a doctor in years actually and no I dont use accountants, I can handle my own funds.
Mechanics I go to but i certainly dont trust them

@Torsten Best of luck in self-treatment when you have a medical issue later in life, as almost everyone does.

@windinhishair our fates have already been decided. What will be will be

@Torsten I see. So there is no reason to do anything but allow it to play out without a care in the world.

@windinhishair I never said not to do anything. You say not having a care in the world like its a bad thing. You rather be stressed out and live in fear due to what strangers tell you?

@Torsten There is no need to do anything if it is all decided and there is no self-choice in anything. Que sera sera.

Who said I was stressed out? I just think it is better to understand the world around me based on sound facts and data and to work on helping improve it than just letting things happen as they will with no effort on my part.

@windinhishair there is self choice though.

you dont understand the world around you. You blindly believe others with what they tell you the world is

@Torsten You just said that your life is pre-determined. There is no self-choice. No need for education. No need to read anything ever. No need to know anything. It is going to happen the way it is pre-determined anyway.

I clearly do not blindly believe what others tell me. For example, I have looked at data on covid and the vaccines, including negative events, to better understand what is going on, including the mechanism for the vaccine. I make my decisions based on the available information in its totality, knowing that what I see as an individual may or may not be reflective of what I can expect in the future. Conscious, informed decisions will work out better in the long run than just letting 'er rip and believing nothing I do or do not do will change anything anyway.

Have you ever read Voltaire's Candide? You might find it enjoyable.