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I Had A Fight With My Boyfriend

And it seems like a big one


I just flew home for the weekend and the boyfriend picked me up from the airport like the sweetie that he is. We got to my parent's house a few hours ago and were hanging out with m&d in the kitchen just chilling and talking.

Some background ... About three weeks ago I got invited to apply to something pretty prestigious. I'm currently in the Navy and this is not something that everyone does. I don't want to go into details, but it's kinda a big deal. I Skyped with mom about it and she was 100% completely against it. It would change the direction of the job I would have within the Navy and she was not in favor. Based on her reaction, I didn't tell the boyfriend about it at all. But I did tell my commanders that I was all in.

Anyway, fast forward back to tonight standing around the kitchen counter and my mom brings it up and looks at the boyfriend and says she hopes he can talk some sense into me. He played it cool at first but the look on his face made it pretty clear that this was the first he was hearing of it and he wasn't happy about that. Mom apologized to me quickly and said it looked like we needed to talk. Ya think? 🙄

Anyway, he and I walked out front and stood leaning on his truck for an hour "talking." Lot's of not nice things were said, some loudly. Finally he left saying he needed to go cool down before he said anything he didn't mean (as if everything he said up to that point he meant).
So I know I screwed up. Relationships are built on openness and trust. But nothing in this decision changes my total commitment time to the Navy (although it is a decision that would help advancement if I did decide to stay in longer). Ugh, anyway, instead of being out on a date, I'm sitting at the desk in my old room trying to figure out if he's going to call me.








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room101 · 56-60, M
Hi Sara. Many who have commented have "blamed" your mother for putting you in a difficult position. I don't see it that way. She is clearly not happy with your decision and sought support from somebody else who is significant in your life. Furthermore, she had every reason to suppose that you had already spoken to your boyfriend about your choice.

As to your boyfriend himself, getting angry and leaving was not a wise move but, the option that you have decided upon will change the nature of your relationship. From the little that you are able to divulge, I assume that you will be spending more time away from home (and him), you will have a greater (longer?) commitment to the Navy and, you will be putting yourself in harms way. Any one of these things should have required a conversation with him. But all three?

Sorry kiddo, you should have spoken to him and listened to his views before making your decision. I'm not saying that you should have allowed him to make your decision for you. Just that you should have allowed him to be a part of the process.
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@sarabee1995 I know you got this, I'll send some tea or some of that soda pop you like by drone to your boat :)
room101 · 56-60, M
@sarabee1995 I would never assume that you have been anything less than upfront with him. And yet, here you are 🤷‍♂️
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Scribbles Thanks! Some Lipton teabags would be quite nice actually! I discovered at lunch that I didn't bring any.

@room101 Yes, here I am. He was listening to me and I assumed he was hearing me. We shall see what the week brings.
Scribbles · 36-40, F
Sorry to hear things are strained right now between you and your mom, and you and your boyfriend. Hopefully things get worked out.

It's hard in a relationship when 2 people have completely different ideas of what you should do, much less what you want to do not fully being taken in account or being supported. And then the hardship of not having proper communication. And it sounds like neither your mom or boyfriend are fully on board with you making Navy career decisions that change the one idea and expectation of said Navy career they had. I think they need to decide to support you and how they will do that... whether they like your decision or not. idk.
room101 · 56-60, M
@Scribbles Nestle is one of my fave brands over here. They also make great breakfast cereals. I don't know if what they produce in this country is for European tastes or is the same as what they produce across the pond.

Galaxy (aka Dove) and Lindt (who own Ghiredelli) are also fave brands of chocolate. Never tried Taza.

In terms of individual chocolate confections, we've spoken about Toblerone before but there's another one that is pretty high on my fave list. Terry's Chocolate Orange. Unwrapping one is a joy in its own right😁
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@room101 My friend who lives in Scotland told me years ago that she had to retry chocolate all over when she moved out there. Because they do make things to European tastes. So almost everything tasted different. Though for some crazy reason reason she likes the cadbury creme eggs from america better then cadbury eggs out there. I figure it's got to be the nostalgia factor.

Taza is a stoneground chocolate. It's not a smooth chocolate exactly... it has a different texture and bitter dark chocolateness to it that I really like above Dove and Ghiredelli's. They also have THE BEST hot chocolate mixes in my opinion.

I do tend to buy Dove/Galaxy or Ghiredelli when I need chocolate for others-like for dipping fruit in chocolate. And like I said I used to buy those for myself all the time...
But Taza is just my top fav-now that I found it. So I've been enjoying that and ignoring every other chocolate in existence.

Did you know Dove was invented by a Greek-American?

Terry's chocolate orange? I'm intrigued. I'll see if they are sold over here. I'll try a new chocolate.

Nestle makes breakfast cereals over here too. But I don't like breakfast cereals ever since I became a teacher and dealt with morning breakfasts with kids. Parents feed the sugarest versions of the gunk constantly to their kids . So I've become rather anti breakfast cereal ever since. I consider cereal more a dessert then an everyday breakfast.

@sarabee1995 Yeah, time to cut him loose. Good luck, Sara!
room101 · 56-60, M
@Scribbles "Did you know Dove was invented by a Greek-American?"

THE GREEKS INVENTED EVERYTHING😂😂😂
lasergraph · 70-79, M
He should be supportive but not controlling. The decision affects YOUR future, he may or may not affect your future. I think you will regret missed opportunities more than missed boyfriends.

I will leave you with this note:

OPPORTUNITY
(c) 2017 Edward York

I stood at the doorway of opportunity,
And was greeted with a grin.
I stood there feeling awkward,
Afraid to venture in.

I approached it with suspicion.
And didn't trust the smile.
I wouldn't make the effort.
To walk that extra mile.

It was cloaked in ambiguity,
With nothing in the clear.
I would have ventured closer,
But was held back by my fear.

I was like so many others,
Who cried out to have a chance.
I was invited to the party,
But simply failed to dance.\
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@lasergraph Thanks, but I'm not one to be held back by fear or that simply fails to dance. I took the opportunity and am applying. I just didn't tell him about it.
SW-User
Honestly if the decision changed how long you'd be away from him that might be a point worth him arguing, but as you clearly said it doesn't so he really doesn't have much of an argument from my perspective.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@SW-User No, I don't require support of anyone. That's his decision. He needs to decide if he meant what he said at Christmas when he told me that he was okay with him having these intense strong feelings for me and me not being there yet with him. The feelings he has for me, make him think that this decision should have been a joint decision. But from my side of things, we aren't at that point in our relationship yet where life decisions are joint decisions. The issue is the disparity in feelings and commitment.
SW-User
@sarabee1995 he needs to reconcile it then and you need to make your feelings clear, and actual sit-down discussion needs to happen here because you obviously aren't on the same page.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@SW-User He knows my feelings very well. I haven't said anything here that I haven't told him. I think (I could be wrong) he was expecting me to magically catch up with him in the feels department. I'm not saying that couldn't happen someday, but this past five months I've been focused on school and training, not on relationship building.

And that goes again to the fundamental issue. I'm just not in that place in life with him or in general where my personal relationships are my top priority. I'm not.
ShadowSister · 51-55, F
Yikes! I'm so sorry, Sara. Fights with your partner suck, especially bigger ones. Sounds like he's frustrated twice over, first with you not telling him, and second with your decision. I hope you both are able to patch things up.

I personally feel that the first big fight is the most critical part of a relationship. Either you learn how to resolve it in a way that is acceptable for both of you, or you realize this is not a good long-term fit.

When my ex told me he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me, I told him we would have no idea until we see how we fight. And since we almost never fought, it took a long time to figure it out. When we finally did have our first argument, it was really crappy. We did NOT fight well at all. I didn't feel like he acknowledged my feelings at all, and nothing I said seemed to help us resolve things. In the end, he just wanted to sweep it under the rug and pretend everything was good, even though it wasn't. That's why, when the relationship was going downhill, I decided not to put the emotional work in to save it.

So I think this weekend is really important for you two. You'll be able to see how you navigate conflict. I hope you both strive hard to repair the relationship and honor each other's feelings. If you do, that's a really good sign for you both.

Sucks though. I know you were looking forward to this weekend. Good luck. I'm praying for you.
ShadowSister · 51-55, F
Good luck. I'm rooting for you as a couple.
ShadowSister · 51-55, F
Okay, so as I read through the threads from @room101 and @Scribbles (Hi, old friends! It's InquisitiveShadow!), it seems clear to me now that he is acting how he is because he is trying desperately to keep you. I think he gets that you are on a slower timeframe than he is, but this is not about timeframes. Depending on your decision, it limits his options with you for the future. Of course he doesn't want to have a conversation about the conversation! He's just fighting to keep his SaraBee in his life. He wants to 'tame' her because he fears that if he doesn't, she'll run away and leave him. I'm sure he has no idea how controlling he is being, or how much it is pushing you away.

I disagree with Scribbles. I don't think it falls to you to break up with him. You've been up front with him about your commitment level. But I do think you want to force him to decide:
A. SaraBee
B. Picket fence
Choose one. He can never have both.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@ShadowSister He reminds me all the time how much I love Cape Cod, and he's right. I have the waters of Nantucket Sound flowing through my veins and always will.

BUT whether it's the Navy or the State Department or some private security contractor or some international bank, my training and education will have me working somewhere else in the world and visiting the Cape when I can. I've been telling him that for five months straight now and it's pretty clear to me that he hasn't been believing me. 🤷‍♀️
Welcome to the land of love. 🤭😅

This is just another NORMAL day, I'd say. 💖😎
@TexChik Isn't that the truth? 😅🤭

@sarabee1995 See? You don't have to worry....🤗😘
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Vivaci Big ooops. 🤦‍♀️ But I should've thought to tell her not to bring it up. I just didn't know that we were going to be hanging with m&d at all this weekend.
@sarabee1995 It happens... don't blame yourself, coz I think you did the right thing.

Just hope he understands and supports your decision. 🤗
How long have you two been dating? I don't think it's been long enough to think one is entitled to full disclosure.
@sarabee1995 I know it sucks. He's not entitled to have a say in this decision, at least not where you relationship stands right now. Such issues are better discovered now rather than later.

I have a feeling he's going to get over it though. He'd be a fool to let you go.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@SooperSarah Thanks Sarah.
SW-User
All I can say is if he truly loves you he will wait for you Sara ☺️
SW-User
@sarabee1995 I understand. What will be your reason to look again?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@SW-User I don't know that I want to. I like me me time. I've spent the last week alone on my boat and had a great time. I really don't think I need the complexity to be honest. I know I'm not that easy to get along with (I've been told that for years) and I know, from my side, I don't need relationships. So maybe, for now anyway, I'm just gonna focus on me and my career.
SW-User
@sarabee1995 I thought you might say that Sara. You go do what's best for you 🤗
Barefooter25 · 46-50, M
I'm sorry you are having problems with your boyfriend due to this decision you are making. I admit you should have discussed it with him first. Relationships are all about open communications, unless you are volunteering for a secret mission. If you think this decision will advance your career, then you should go for it and he and your family must be supportive. He should also understand by now that you are in the navy and that requires full commitment to serving your country by defending it.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Barefooter25 He does understand that and has been fully supportive so far. But his expectation so far is that I'd fulfill my four years after school and then cash out (like my lieutenant just did).

This opportunity is one that doesn't require me to extend, but that makes extending far more likely.
Rutterman · 46-50, M
Sorry things blew-up with your boyfriend, Sara.

Your decision not to tell him about accepting the Navy's offer certainly is understandable in view of your mother's reaction to it. I'm guessing you would have told him fairly soon anyway. And even if it could be argued that you should have talked to him about it earlier, I really think he overreacted. If apologies are in order here, you aren't the only individual who needs to make one.

I sincerely hope your bf comes to his senses and the two of you can get past this.

Congratulations on being offered this opportunity for advancement in your Naval career.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Rutterman Yes, I fully intended to tell him this weekend face-to-face. The main reason I didn't tell him yet wasn't that my mom got all excited, but rather that her getting all excited (negative excitement, not positive) was difficult to deal with over Skype.
dale74 · M
you're young he's your boyfriend you need to focus on your career if you're in the Navy especially if you want to make it 20 so that you can retire and never have to worry financially about supporting your family if your boyfriend truly knows you and knows how much you love being in the Navy he will support your decision no matter what
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@dale74 I've never really considered the 20 year option. That hasn't been my intent (at least not so far).
dale74 · M
I've got several relatives that are in the Navy I looked at joining the Navy most everybody I know that in the Navy enjoys it if you got something you enjoy pays the bills and you can retire and 20 go for it
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@dale74 Thx
Platinum · M
You do what you think is good for you, everyone else should support you..
TexChik · F
@sarabee1995 True but your life plan wasn’t contingent on what others want .
Platinum · M
@sarabee1995 virtually none
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@TexChik Very true.

@Platinum Really? I think that's a very atypical parenting style.
Mugin16 · 46-50, M
Sorry to hear. I guess that is part of relationships. Has your boyfriend called by now? Maybe your decision interfered with his plans for you guys as a couple? 🤔
Mugin16 · 46-50, M
@sarabee1995 And you don't know that yet?
TexChik · F
@sarabee1995 that’s a difficult question at this particular moment
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Mugin16 Right, I'm not even close to making that decision.

@TexChik Exactly.
Pfuzylogic · M
Could be time to upgrade his clearance level. You might be bypassing his need to know.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Pfuzylogic Thank you, and yes, it is. He's asked for me to give him time and he said he'd call.🤷‍♀️
Pfuzylogic · M
@sarabee1995
It can be tough to know what to share.
I have total confidence in you.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
Give him time to digest what has went down. It's always unfortunate when things come out at the wrong time..
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Quimliqer That's kinda what I'm doing right now but it's literally driving me crazy.
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@sarabee1995 I sympathize with your predicament.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Quimliqer Thanks
76starships · 46-50, M
I’m glad you went for it. If he really knows what you are about, he’ll understand.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@76starships Thanks. It's a long process so we won't know for a while if I get it, but thanks.

And, it seems from the conversations that I've had with him today that he is primarily concerned with my extending. This morning he actually said he needs to know if I plan on extending. First, I'm no where close to making that decision -- it is years away. Second, I'm not going to give in to an ultimatum to make that decision early. He asked the question ten different ways and each time I told him that I have not changed my mind on that (meaning, it is a decision I will make when the time comes and not before).
76starships · 46-50, M
Yeah, you’ve only just begun your career. This isn’t someone you met yesterday, he’s known you a long time. I’m surprised at the demands. Surely he knows that you don’t make decisions lightly nor do you respond well to pressure like this. @sarabee1995
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@76starships Not well at all. If I dig my heels in any deeper, all 5'1" of me will be underground.
vetguy1991 · 51-55, M
Does he feel that he is being left out of the decision making process?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@vetguy1991 Well yes, that is part of it. But it's more than that. We spoke this morning early.

He wants to know if I'm in for the four years or if I'm in for longer.
vetguy1991 · 51-55, M
SW-User
I hope he’ll be more supportive of your decision soon also congrats on the program you got accepted to 😁
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@SW-User No where close to accepted yet. I just got invited to apply. But thanks! :)
Reject · 31-35, M
He should respect your decision. Everyone should. It's yours to make.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Reject I agree.
Ambroseguy80 · 56-60, M
🤗🤗🤗

Welcome to relationships!!! Not that you didn’t have any idea already ;)

Anyway, the true villain in all of this is your mother, as I see it. She had no right to assume you had discussed this with BF, and I don’t think she’s put you in a very nice spot. On the other hand, he’s “just a boyfriend”... it’s not like he’s a spouse yet, or even a fiancée, though you may be working in that direction and I haven’t heard it. Anyway, he needs to take a chill pill. You owed him nothing as far as a heads-up about this, and I think he’s being a drama queen in all likelihood.

Sorry your mom did this to you! 😲
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Ambroseguy80 Well the villain is kinda my mom, BUT when I spoke to her, we did talk about him and what his reaction likely would be and I did kinda imply that he was my next call. I just never made that call. So she wasn't outing me, she assumed he knew.

He sees us working toward that (marriage) and has for quite some time. And we have an agreement NOT to discuss that because I'm just not there yet.
Ambroseguy80 · 56-60, M
@sarabee1995 understandable. Still.... your life as far as I see it right now.

On the positive side.... congratulations on your unique opportunity!!!
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Ambroseguy80 Thanks :)
<3 <3 im so sorry sara! PM if you need me k?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@TryingtoLava Thanks girl
deadgerbil · 26-30
I can see why he would get upset. It seems like a big decision to make that can have big implications, etc in your future.

His issue over communication, or lack thereof, should resolve itself after a while. Give him space to clear his head, etc.

Hopefully, he supports your decision either way, whether you take the Navy up on the offer or not.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@deadgerbil Yes, it is a big decision, but one that I'm not sure if he gets input on yet. I mean we do talk about "the future" but there have been no commitments exchanged.
Selah ·
He'll get over it.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Selah Idk. He's pretty mad.
Your boyfriend should have played it cool in front of your parents and expressed his feelings to you at a later time when your parents were not around and after he had heard the facts from you. Your mother shouldn't have prodded him either, IMO.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@BiasForAction Lotta shoulds and shouldn'ts there. 🤷‍♀️

In his case, he doesn't hide things well so when he heard what mom said, his quiet surprise was all over his face.

And when mom saw he was surprised, she realized what happened and correctly concluded that he and I needed to talk.
SW-User
Sounds like you made the right decision for you, but probably didn't explain it up front with him. He'll get over it, your mom will too!
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@SW-User Well this was last week and this whole argument just uncovered some fundamental issues. He and I spent the bulk of today talking and for now we are basically off. 🤷‍♀️
SW-User
@sarabee1995 I see, that sounds a bit more serious then. At least you have stuck to your decision with regards to your job. I'm guessing it will mean moving to a new location?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@SW-User Well I'm in the Navy as I said, so that means moving to new locations is just part of the normal.
At the risk of sounding nosey, what are their objections ? Will this opportunity also keep you away from home longer, and/or be potentially dangerous ?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@bijouxbroussard It doesn't come with any requirement to extend my commitment, but it does increase that likelihood. And yes, it is a more forward role.
Carver · 31-35, F
Damn, your mom really put you on the spot there. I’d be fucking pissed with her if I were you. Personally, I don’t think you screwed up anything. Maybe it would have been nice to let him know before but your bf doesn’t really need to know that. It’s not like you two are in any long-term commitment with each other, as you’ve told me yourself. It sounds like you need to give him a cold serving of reality about your relationship again l. Unless you two are now in it for the long run with your romantic partnership then you’re not the one who has screwed up, he is by having such expectations from you. Your mom too, I hope you don’t let her get away with that... She was way out of line by telling by him your business and putting you in that position.

I’m sorry this happened with you. As someone who still recently recovered from an ongoing feud in my relationship, I know how badly it sucks. Hope thing can turn out better for you soon.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Carver Well, as you know already, he is and has been much further along emotionally in the "long-term commitment" thing than I have. This has been the major issue between us since that summer we dated back when I was 20. He's five years older and has been ready "for more" from day one and I haven't been.

Now, as of this morning when we spoke, he wants to know if I'm going to extend passed my four years. I'm no where near making that decision.

As for mom, I'm not too mad at her. The way I left things with her, it was reasonable for her to assume I had told him already. (She and I spoke about how he would react and I implied he was next on my list.)

 
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