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How significant is the recent escalation between NATO and Russia?

NATO is now allowing the use of American and British missiles in Russian territory. In September, Joe Biden and British Prime Minister Keir Starmer decided, after discussions, not to allow this. We can assume the reason is wanting to avoid escalation. Putin issued a very clear warning and they appeared to listen.

What has changed since then? It has only been two months. Russia continues to do well, which is not a change as Russian military has been doing well for over a year. Why is Biden, before he leaves office, allowing Ukraine to use these missiles? He knows what the potential consequences are. Starmer also knows what the consequences are. The deep state know the consequences. This can only be a way to try to sabotage Trump's presidency.

Do you think this escalation is significant? What do you think will happen?
justanothername · 51-55, M
It’s next to impossible to explain the concept of NATO to an isolationist loving MAGA supporter because the idea of helping another country that is under attack from a much bigger country goes against what it means to be an “isolationist”.

Putin will continue to threaten but as he has done for the last 3 years, very little will actually happen although all the MAGA isolationists will continue to get their panties in a knot but they wont actually do anything else because they are too self serving to be any use to anyone one.

If something does happen I would hope that the members of NATO function as one and send Pootin packing.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
@justanothername If I have to fight alongside you then I'm helping Russia
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SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@emiliya I'm sorry people will try to dehumanize you for your political beliefs. I agree with you. What our country just did is likely to cause more death and destruction, not less. And that's both inside and outside Ukraine.

I have close friends over there. I care for them deeply and worry for them every day. Now, since the news, I have to worry a lot more.

I believe your heart is in the right place. Thank you for being brave enough to speak out against the backlash.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Deep state?

You arent worth responding to.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@trollslayer Why do you disagree?
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@emiliya anyone who thinks there is a “deep state” is beyond rational conversation. Might as well talk about reptilians or chemtrails.
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@trollslayer Do you think the government is truthful to us all the time?
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
What's the deep state?
justanothername · 51-55, M
@emiliya Deep state is just another name for
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
@emiliya So the American deep state is people like Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers?
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@justanothername You're American, right
Oceanfire · 41-45, M
It doesn't make much sense except like you said to sabotage Trump. Doesn't make much sense militarily either as Russia could give them an almighty ass whopping with their airforce in response if they so wished. And the West wouldn't intervene.
@Oceanfire Actually, Russia recently stepped up their missile attacks on Ukraine. Biden gave Ukraine a way to incentivize Russia to back off on those attacks.

Russia launches massive missile and drone attack at Ukraine's infrastructure
Nov 17, 2024

Russia steps up missile attacks on Ukraine
CBS News Videos
Tue, Sept 3, 2024
Strictgram · 70-79, C
Trump will put an end to the war in 2 months max. Putin just wants a face saving way out.
@Strictgram Wait a minute. Trump says he will end the war in one day. What happened? Are you saying he will end the war after he is sworn in? So, Trump will end the war on January 21st. Then he can get back to building that wall that Mexico will be paying for.
Strictgram · 70-79, C
@LillyOLilly Didn' you say you were leaving the country if Trump won?
tindrummer · M
@Strictgram lame (even for you) deflection attempt 😅
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
It is extremely serious and outright dangerous. So very sad that the US money interests decided they needed to own Ukraine.
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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@emiliya That's the great irony of modernity. So much knowledge and potential at our fingertips, yet so much wasted potential. Hahaha.
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SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@Diotrephes Old wet paper towels never killed all the men, r***ed all the women and children, and exhibited nuclear capability. I don't see the resemblance.

 
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