Support for Ukraine: Time for a Clear Decision

@newjaninev2
I was referring to the current issues facing America. I have no idea how you all are doing in New Zealand😊

@SlaveEt Every country faces current issues and concerns... that doesn't make it all a mess.

I'm familiar with US, having lived there three times, having financial interests there, and having many friends scattered around, and America is obviously boosting!

Of course, the Trump Party does exactly what their owner does... steal the successes and blame someone else for the failures, and spread fear and gloom at every opportunity.

@Kenworth4954 Comraden thanks for showing your Communist colors.

Those who love & support democracy understand that this war is important

@MarkPaul So by your definition 'non-democracies' are part of the Eastern World. Democracy is a fairly subjective term - Australia claims to be one but in a lot of respects isn't. The EU is not a 'country' so it doesn't count. Is Ukraine one? Remember it used be part of the USSR.

@newjaninev2 Nope just facts.

Yhe only ones escalating nuclear saber rattling is western fear mongering mills.

I see you are still lying about nazis in Ukraine when evrn Radio Free Europe has given up lying about that.

It is cute that you claim what I say is debunked yet you have no counter beyond diversion.

@walabby I don't think Putin is interested in taking over the Ukrainian army, which will be composed of people who hate him. He wants eastern Ukraine and a guarantee that Ukraine will never join NATO.

@LeopoldBloom I suspect that he wants all of Ukraine and Moldova and the Baltic states to boot.

@walabby There aren't enough Russian soldiers to hold that much territory. They couldn't even hold Afghanistan.

@hippyjoe1955 Ukraine just like Israel are acting like 'defacto' US states. I hope Kamala if elected puts the knife through all the funding and support those two countries receive. You can bet Trump will amp it up.

@zonavar68 Also nobody is getting a straight answer about any of it. Case in point. Everyone is claiming in the media that Ukraine is losing now because 61 billion in funding was delayed.

Almost immediately after that happened the Ukrainian PM went on Canadian news for an interview and said they need 800 billion to win against Russia. So the entire US defense budget.


Also everyone ignores the fact that even all of NATO cannot produce enough weapons for it to matter. And the news lies and pretends that money allocation is the same thing as physical deliveries.

You can have 1 trillion dollars to spend but if there is no product to buy it doesn't matter.

Also you cannot buy properly trained armies.

And money doesn't solve incompetent leaders.

@zonavar68 Kamala will do the bidding of the Satanists who are headquartered in Israel. Left to his own devices Trump will do the same.

@newjaninev2 Except that is a straight up lie. You can say something is true. Doesn't make it a fact.

@newjaninev2 Even the first point of sovereignty is debatable with a vassal state. Also thanks to mister Zelensky the US client state of Ukraine no longer even pretends to be a democracy. Only Ukraine has cancelled all elections, had their president declare themselves essentially leader for life, made it illegal to negotiate peace, and has locked up and charged with treason all opposition of any significance.

And yeah, nobody ever talked about erasing Ukrainians....except such gems as Poroshenko bragging about shelling Ukrainian children because they happen to be ethnically Russian. Only Kiev declared 2 million Russian Ukrainians "terrorists".


And quit trying to pretend this is Gaza. it is not.


Well Ukraine doesn't maintain any democratic values of any kind at this point. And those are all just bullshit talking points meaning fighting and dying for American Empire.

But I mean you should know that since your own government has handed over it's sovereignty from England to Washington for decades at this point too.

Might make you feel better about being a colony again.

@newjaninev2 exactly, which includes Trump, and their perfidy knows no bounds.

@Ontheroad johnson, greene, gaetz, tuberville, graham... it's an established method. Hollow out a party but retain the name. People vote for the party name, but get something completely different.

The 'republican party' is now a shell corporation - mere voter bait.

@newjaninev2 yep, a plan laid long ago that needed only the right leader, and along came a pysho narcissist.

@OldMan70 Says the guy who cheers for the three letter agencies and their endless wars.

@OldMan70 Picture this . Majority of missiles launched at Ukraine or Israel are with microchips made in USA and not made in China or Iran or Russia or North Korea.

@Wol62 And to increase the profits of the donor class

@Wol62 War is hell.
Hell is other people.
War is other people.

So, seems to be a reasonable way to fight a war 👍️

@zonavar68 Care to explain? Nothing I said was false.

@hippyjoe1955 on the other hand, here is another view of what happened in Europe that you might be interested in reading.:
https://www.france24.com/en/russia/20220130-did-nato-betray-russia-by-expanding-to-the-east
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/12/russias-belief-in-nato-betrayal-and-why-it-matters-today
https://hls.harvard.edu/today/there-was-no-promise-not-to-enlarge-nato/

@wildbill83 Sure if a draft were ever to be introduced.... would it be possible for me to be part of a tank crew? Would love to ride in a Challenger 2 😎

@LeopoldBloom russia will never cease hostilities.

russia's standard procedure has always been to deny any intention to steal, then steal as much as possible, and insist it now belongs to them. When the response causes them problems, they offer to return part of what they stole... leaving them with a nett gain. In the ensuing pause they quickly reposition themselves, return and steal what they gave back and as much extra as possible. When the response causes them problems, they offer to return part of what they stole... rinse and repeat.

Over and over and over... it's what russia has always done, but they're just starting to realise that this time nobody is going to play that particular game with them, so rather than their bots constantly calling for 'negotiations' they're now calling for 'peace plans'.

For the barbarians it's the same thing... breathing space during which the next, and even more deadly, phase will be planned and prepared.

@newjaninev2 I agree, any peace treaty would be temporary. It's also meaningless to hold Ukraine to a permanent agreement to never join NATO.

The fact remains that Ukraine's fate hinges on the outcome of the election here. Trump has already said he will "end" the war by halting all military aid, which will mean victory for Russia in whatever form that takes.

@LeopoldBloom Vote accordingly 😀

@Northwest Big difference is Russia has the ammo to give their soldiers.

The US could hire out as many mercs as they want but the US and NATO combined can't product enough artillery shells for it to matter.

@emiliya why would it mean Western troops on the ground. The Ukrainians have shown they're capable of giving the barbarians a reality check - if we give them the means to do so, and if we remove the restrictions imposed by a timid White House.

russian sabre-rattling has long ceased to have any relevance, and has now become something of a standing joke.
(it has been 3 days since putin made a sinister veiled threat... oh wait! One has just come in! It has been zero days since...)

@Alex51 yes please

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@Alex51 Why must we support Ukraine? Serious question not trying to be flippant.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Your supervisors really do need to supply you with better material...

Pavel Luzin, an expert on Russian military capacity at the Centre for European Policy Analysis writes: Russia can build only 30 brand-new tanks a year. When the Ukrainians captured a supposedly new T-90m last year, they found that its gun was produced in 1992.

Luzin writes that Russia’s ability to build new tanks or infantry fighting vehicles, or even to refurbish old ones, is hampered by the difficulty of getting components. Stores of components for tank production that before the war were intended for use in 2025 have already been raided, while crucial equipment, such as fuel heaters for diesel engines, high-voltage electrical systems and infrared thermal imaging to identify targets, were all previously imported from Europe and their sale is now blocked by sanctions. The lack of high-quality ball bearings is also a constraint. Chinese alternatives are sometimes available, but do not meet quality standards.

Furthermore, the old Soviet armaments supply chain no longer exists. Ukraine, Georgia and East Germany were all important centres of weapons and components manufacture. Ironically, Kharkiv was the main producer of turrets for T-72 tanks

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow For about 5 minutes... until the first drone comes along to slap you into the 21st century. 😂

The barbarians really do think it's the 20th century, and the military genius in his Führerbunker thinks it's 1964

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
Imagine if you had been told to write that on 24 February 2022... as so many of your people were.

Now, 917 days later, you'd be feeling misled and manipulated.

Just as you will be feeling 917 days from now (if russia can hold out that long) 😂

@meJess If Russia thrives on chaos why is the US the one causing all the chaos? Serious question since the one starting all the wars is the US.

@hippyjoe1955 Does it matter who starts these things?

@meJess Yes it does matter a lot. The US has a very bad habit of starting wars all over the world. Sadly it then turns tail and abandons its 'friends' leaving the war ravaged country in worse shape than before the war began.

@MarkPaul define 'free world' please.

@zonavar68 Western democracies.

@MarkPaul Define 'western democracies'.... Where are they - really?

@zonavar68 Russia is our problem when they try to retake the Soviet Empire.

This was enabled by DJT because he was/is enraptured with tyrants. And an actually strong President would have made it clear that any move to retake the Soviet territories will be a bad thing.

So now Putin--who also helped DJT when he openly invited a foreign power to participate in our soveriegn election!--is in a big war w/Ukraine.

He didn't accomplish ANYthing with North Korea; in fact, he gave THAT tyrant a great PR coup for signing an agreement which meant NOTHING.

Now NK is shooting hypersonic delivery vehicles, threatening South Korea, Japan, and us.

He let our local agents the Kurds die, strengthening the power of the tyrant if Syria.

He backed out of the treaty controlling Iran's nuclear program...

So now we have Iran rattling its nuclear saber...

He expressed admiration for tyrants of all ilks...

And now we've had China cracking down on Hong Kong and threatening Taiwan.

He did so much to make us an international laughingstock that other free countries looked to Angela Merkel of Germany as "the leader of the free world".

And as he started, there was a mass departure of people from the State Department...

These hurt America's reputation and standing in the world, and esp. our position as a pre-eminent democratic republic.

That's not success in foreign policy.

@SomeMichGuy trump via project 2025 will make the USA into north American Korea unfortunately

@zonavar68 We'll be more like a banana republic, but yes...

@Khenpal1 That's what wars are really for - to stimulate the local economy.

@Musicman No, we haven't. The number being plastered around is the billions that go to domestic weapon manufacturers, and/or what the equipment is/was worth originally.

The only reason why people are lured into thinking actual money flies over there is because a certain segment of the western politics is held from the balls by Putin.

@Jimbo1 That's true, but it could also be spent on education, environmental protection, climate neutrality, peace, and supporting the socially disadvantaged. I would prefer not to support Rheinmetall shareholders with taxpayers' money.

@Fable let them fight their own wars