Support for Ukraine: Time for a Clear Decision

@bookerdana And Ukraine is fielding T-55s. But both sides are using them as SPGs so it doesn't much matter how old they are.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow T-55 is just a slight evolution of the t-62,but not the point,they have lost so many tanks and training and parts are simpler for pars and training because of sanctions

@bookerdana Not really. Although that narrative has been pushed where Russia will run out of tanks any day now....for 2 years.


The reason why both sides are using them is because the older tanks like the T-62 have sights for indirect fire that modern ones generally don't. Plus when they are miles behind the lines and not anywhere near enemy tanks armour is irrelevant.

To be quite honest in that role you could probably use a T-34 too but 80 year old shells in 85mm are just not common anymore.

For actually tank roles they have production lines of T-72s, T-80s, and T-90s

Plus facilities to rebuild damaged units.

Oh and for one the T-62 is not just a minor update of the T-55. For one the T-62 was the first production tank with a smooth bore gun like all modern tanks.


And also the sanctions have turned out to be a total joke. The only thing it has accomplished is made the Russian economy more independent from western influence and basically rendered the west completely incapable of further economic warfare against Russia.

In fact their economy overall is doing better than before the war started.

And the training thing makes no sense at all. That would be like claiming the US could save money on training by having M-1 crews drive around in M48 Patton tanks that nobody has used since the 70s.

Russians would have mothballed them decades ago and there are probably very few people in the army who still is familiar with them. But you don't need to worry so much when you just park it and lob shells down range.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Or they're holding them in reserve lest they have to fight a defensive war

@bookerdana Nope. There are no maybes in war anymore. We have real time feedback of what is being used and how in hours of it happening.

And to be blunt there is only one side that needs to worry about keeping anything in reserve and is running out fast is Ukraine.

Heck the US and NATO combined can't even keep up enough production to make sure Ukraine even has shells to fire down range.

And Ukraine is running out of people to fight. Hell average age of privates in the Ukrainian army are my ages in their early 40s.

hoever anyone feels about this conflict it is only going one way. The only question is how long it takes.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Nope🤔 You'll ramble on for a week so a bientot (not)
Its your only interest

@bookerdana Hardly but it is a subject I am well informed about.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Your supervisors really do need to supply you with better material...

Pavel Luzin, an expert on Russian military capacity at the Centre for European Policy Analysis writes: Russia can build only 30 brand-new tanks a year. When the Ukrainians captured a supposedly new T-90m last year, they found that its gun was produced in 1992.

Luzin writes that Russia’s ability to build new tanks or infantry fighting vehicles, or even to refurbish old ones, is hampered by the difficulty of getting components. Stores of components for tank production that before the war were intended for use in 2025 have already been raided, while crucial equipment, such as fuel heaters for diesel engines, high-voltage electrical systems and infrared thermal imaging to identify targets, were all previously imported from Europe and their sale is now blocked by sanctions. The lack of high-quality ball bearings is also a constraint. Chinese alternatives are sometimes available, but do not meet quality standards.

Furthermore, the old Soviet armaments supply chain no longer exists. Ukraine, Georgia and East Germany were all important centres of weapons and components manufacture. Ironically, Kharkiv was the main producer of turrets for T-72 tanks

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow For about 5 minutes... until the first drone comes along to slap you into the 21st century. 😂

The barbarians really do think it's the 20th century, and the military genius in his Führerbunker thinks it's 1964

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
Imagine if you had been told to write that on 24 February 2022... as so many of your people were.

Now, 917 days later, you'd be feeling misled and manipulated.

Just as you will be feeling 917 days from now (if russia can hold out that long) 😂