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Why is the uprising of 1/6/21 worse than the months of rioting in the Northwest?

The BLM and Antifa rioters destroyed federal buildings during months of rioting. The capital uprising lasted less than a day. Why is it worse?
One was a "horrifying insurrection" that led to an Air Force veteran being murdered by a DC cop, and several arrests...though no one has actually been charged with insurrection.

The other was a series "mostly peaceful" protests that led to several murders and billions in damages across the country.
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SW-User
@markansas no , we are subject to fake news .
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Northwest · M
The king of false equivalency strikes again.

[quote]The BLM and Antifa rioters destroyed federal buildings during months of rioting.[/quote]

That did not happen. I drive by the Seattle "Federal buildings" every once in a while, and they're still there. In fact, no one was able to get through the federal perimeter set up around the area.

Same for Portland's Federal district, where I happen to drive about once a month. It's still there, unscathed. In fact, most of the burning of loading carts that happened there, is a direct result of Trump's refusal to withdraw the Federal troops, creating a flash point.

But it's not like anyone ever accused you of having a clue.

But, more importantly, what does the summer of 2020 rioting have to do with the violent insurrection on Jan 6th, 2021, at the behest of the sitting President of the USA? Hint: nothing.
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@Northwest 🤔 "where does it say that demonstrations have to be peaceful" 🤣🤣🤣

🤔

🤣🤣🤣
Northwest · M
@BigGuy2 Let me break it down to you. You keep referring to a video of a CNN reporter, standing 100 feet from a a burning Federal Court House. Specifically, to quote you:

[quote] so the CNN reporter that was stood 100 feet away from a Federal Court House burning down was photoshopped was it[/quote]

and

[quote]There was a classic CNN piece to camera when the idiot CNN reporter said, "on the whole, the riots are peaceful" this was AFTER he looked at the Federal Court House burning down behind him ... Nope, i'm not joking
[/quote]

And you're building all your arguments on that. In the land of reality, that's called a house of cards. Simply put: this did not happen, and one more time, here's a link to what actually happened:

https://www.newsweek.com/cnn-mocked-calling-kenosha-riots-fiery-mostly-peaceful-protests-1527997

No, you're not joking, because you're woefully ill informed, and the joke is on you.
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@Northwest ... you don't need to break anything down at all, i gave both those examples as EXAMPLES ... it's you and the other guy that has been stretching that part of the argument to the 9th degree ... it never has been and never will be my main issue ... i'll break it down for YOU though ... and repeat it and emphasise ... they were [b]EXAMPLES[/b] ... 🤪🤪🤪

🤔

...so CNN 'sarcastically' mocked the riots as 'peaceful' when Cuomo said on air "whers does it say demonstrations have to be peaceful" ... something not right there isn't there ... 🤣🤣🤣

🤔 ... here's some more

🤣🤣🤣
akindheart · 61-69, F
this is a ploy to divert attention away from the burning of cities and looting and rioting because Trump is coming back.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@Elessar well that will get you blocked when you attack me personally. nothing more to say to you.
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akindheart · 61-69, F
@MarmeeMarch yeah or a fake profile!
Because the George Floyd riots were exaggerated by right wing media. Much of the violence was by right wing gangs or the cops themselves. The Portland mayor authorized the use of tear gas for “riots,” so the cops conveniently declared every demonstration to be a “riot” even if it was peaceful. It’s amazing what you learn talking to people who were there instead of just repeating what you hear on Tucker Carlson.

Also, those demonstrations were in response to police brutality while 1/6 was an attempt to undo a legitimate election. 1/6 was an attack on our system of government, not just one aspect of it.

Would you have a different view of 1/6 if Trump had won and it was Biden supporters who rioted?
@markansas OANN is basically Trumpist propaganda. It's about as credible as "The Onion."
@LeopoldBloom oann i generally dont use them unless it is to show how bad they are . its like newsmax . however fox is getting better slowly. tucker is a wack job so what can i say . welcome to the usa
edited again ya i agree with ya total agreement.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
amaricul · 22-25, F
There's a HUGE DIFFERENCE between rioting and destroying federal buildings in some mildly large and important city and storming the second most important building in the ENTIRE COUNTRY hunting for high ranking politicians to murder!!! Like wtf?!? If you want to tear things up then yes go to the Twin Cities, go to Portland, go to Saint Louis but stay the hell away from the seat of the democracy that you claim to love so much!!!
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@MarmeeMarch i am a American and like you and have the same rights as you.[image deleted] IF YOU DONT LIKE IT VOTE. thats what thats for. one person one vote
Elessar · 26-30, M
I don't know how you rightoids can compare protests against police abuse that were escalated by the police itself in the first place (let alone counter-activists and false flags), that went as far as having 7yo children maced
and people brutally assaulted / nearly killed for the "crime" of questioning
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aMwE7GJBqA]

With a literal failed coup.

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Besides, the purpose of the former wasn't overturning a democratic election.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@redredred
[quote]@QuixoticSoul Here, asswipe, take your pick

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud[/quote]

That list goes back to the 19th century. So in almost a 100 years, these people have found 1340 proven cases of fraud. I would say that's pretty impressive, considering the amount of voters voted in the last 100 years. And those proven cases aren't even from the same party. The first case you'll find on the list, was a member of the GOP.

That also comes from an organisation, that excists for one reason. It's a think tank set up by wealthy people that really dislike to pay taxes. Their entire thing, is to manipulate voters into voting for those wealthy peoples interests. Mainly, the reduction of taxes. Lieing and cheating, is all part of the playbook. That includes, informing GOP lawmakers in how to pass bills that makes it harder for citizens that come from segments of the poppulations that don't vote their way, to make it harder for them vote. Jessica Anderson even caught bragging about that last year.

[b]SOURCE:[/b] https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/05/heritage-foundation-dark-money-voter-suppression-laws/

A part of Ian Shapiro and Michael Graetz book: "Death by a Thousand Cuts: The Fight Over Taxing Inherited Wealth", talks about the Heritage foundation. And he touches on their work in the lecture that he gave in Yale too:

[youtube=https://youtu.be/u6Ng0N26MGk]

But these organisations wouldn't be succesful if the masses weren't willing to believe them. There are suckers born every day.
redredred · M
@Kwek00 mother Jones!!?!? Ha! What, you couldn’t find a reference in Pravda? Be serious
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@redredred you don't need to read mother Jones, just listen to what Jessican Anderson has to say. It's the only place where I found the audio, because it's no longer availble on youtube without the Mother Jones stuff. The presentation that she gives doesn't change because some media outlet reports on it.
SW-User
I see you call yourself a libertarian. Libertarianism is no longer relevant. They are too weak to enforce the standards we need in the West. Libertarianism is the cry of a beaten and defeated man who can take no more and simply begs for some form of truce or stalemate in order to hold onto the last scraps he once fought for. This cry is not the cry of a warrior, and it is not a cry of the man who seeks to win the war and drive out his enemies. It is the cry of the man who simply wishes to be left alone hoping that whilst Rome burns his house doesn't catch fire. Libertarians, just like mainline/establishment Republicans are squeamish and tepid cucks and only slightly less neo-liberal than the democrats. They are too weak and boring to have any foot in the political and cultural war that is transpiring. The abstract Libertarian philosophy has contributed to molding our culture into the degenerate and decadent cesspool modern America has become.

The whole apathetic "do whatever you want" “live and let live” mantra and this cult of radical individualism and unlimited liberty is what our owners really want you to focus on. However, this is poisonous to healthy and happy communities that seek virtue, beauty, honor, excellence, and victory. This tolerance that has damaged the west is at the very heart of libertarianism, a tolerance that meekly states that we should have the right to live our lives the way we see fit, including those who create rotten, harmful, and twisted fads and subcultures, which will eventually influence and subvert the lives of wholesome families. Libertarians do not care about people going down the wrong path and indulging in self-damaging behavior, which is not the state of any conscientious person, but a negligent one. So you are essentially immersing yourselves in filth rather than aiming to create something better. Is it not right to be intolerant of things that appall you? Is it not right to be intolerant of things that threaten your loved ones, your family and your community? Is it not right to be intolerant of the things that ultimately threaten your very way of life and that threaten western civilization itself? As Aristotle said, Tolerance is one of the last virtues of a dying society. The growth of radical Libertarianism is proof that Western civilization is gasping for its last breaths.

A nation based on nothing but unlimited freedom is just another place to go shopping. It has never led to the creation of any empire in history and certainly not western civilization. We obviously must respect and hold high the creative ability of the individual man, but the inventions made by that individual are only put into production by a cohesive society, which gives those inventions the exposure they need in order to make any real change on a grand scale to shape the world. A greater ideal must also be realized, because a disparate group of individuals (who are only concerned with their own self-interest and being different to get attention) will always be far easier to conquer than a cohesive and homogeneous community of order and discipline with strong and unwavering values which is able to pull together for the greater good. Just like a colony of bees, when humans come together and form a community that can be likened to a single living and breathing entity, with its own shared consciousness, then what can be achieved is almost limitless and infinitely greater than what can be achieved by mere individuals.
@redredred Obsessing over a typo is your only response? That speaks volumes.

And it does have plenty to do with what American "libertarianism" actually is. I don't care about your slogans.
@SW-User I very often find myself disagreeing with you.

Not this time, however.

You have described @redredred and his sort perfectly, and have summarized precisely what is wrong with their philosophy.
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Slade · 56-60, M
@markansas I'm sure he's crushed. How could be ever replace a lemming mindlessly reposting meaningless shit fed to him by NAMBLA?
Slade · 56-60, M
@markansas MUTED

For being a worthless conglomeration of DNA
@Slade NAMBLA are you a member? just asking you brought it up.[image deleted] i had to look the word up and you didnt.
gol979 · 41-45, M
It's not. Plus that "uprising" was staged. Did you see the police just wave them in. Provocateurs in the crowd but most didn't fall for it

Where as the blm protests literally ruined the communities they are supposed to represent

We are in an overtly inverted reality right now
@SumKindaMunster Well, you're definitely "some kind of monster," that certainly fits.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyodOpUxgHA]

[quote]These are the legs that in circles run
This is the beating you'll never know
These are the lips that taste no freedom
This is the feel that's not so safe
This is the face you'll never change
This is the god that ain't so pure
This is the god that is not pure
This is the voice of silence no more

We the people
Are we the people?
We the people
Are we the people?

Some kind of monster
Some kind of monster
Some kind of monster
This monster lives[/quote]
irishmolly72 · 51-55, F
@gol979 2020 gave us the "Kristallsommer" BLM's Summer of Broken Glass.

The pulling down of statues was like the book burnings.

It's all frighteningly familiar.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
Why do defenders of the insurrection lean so heavily on outright lies to justify what happened?

Oh wait, that question answers itself.
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx Try to avoid 4th/5th Aves, between SAM and University. All the buildings are burnt down to the ground. 🤣
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest yeah… it’s like a nuke went off and destroyed everything

Lol
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
There is a lot to go into here which can be argued.

The unarguable difference is that the uprising was an attempt to overthrow a government and overturn an election. It was also directly inspired by the outgoing President.

Some have tried to downplay it using semantics (instead of false equivilance) by saying it was not a coup. It wasn't a coup d'etat because the dictionary definition says that this is something organised. How well organised it was is less important than the intent.
TexChik · F
It was much less worse, and given all the evidence pointing to Pelosi and the actual instigators it was likely another liberal planned false flag event. This one was carried out to try and draw public attention away from the recent (suspicious at best) election and cast blame on all "Trumpists".
@MasterLee [image deleted] there reputation is above approach
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@markansas yeah to trogladytes
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@MasterLee ... cheers for the 'heart'
Amylynne · 26-30, F
because jan 6 was an attempt to overthrow an election

thats treason at the least and sedition certainly

more important than property crimes.


aaand the other side of protesters?? KILLED people
Amylynne · 26-30, F
@redredred how about the rest?
never mind,, You are boring.
DONE
*Plonk*
redredred · M
@Amylynne I read the rest, no sedition and no treason. That’s what I first claimed and you took issue with it. You can’t back up your claim.
Slade · 56-60, M
@Amylynne Dope
ididntknow · 51-55, M
Because Nancy pelosi and the democrats say it was, then then the liberal left wing media back it all up, and on top of that, they have this new thing, FACT CHECKERS, which confirm all the lies, for all the sheep to to suck in and believe beyond all other reasoning,
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@CestManan ... did you know that Dr Fauci's niece is a 'Fact Checker' 🤔 i wonder what area she covers 🤔 i'm guessing Covid 19 and the Vaccine
CestManan · 46-50, F
@BigGuy2 Whenever I hear the words "fact check" it reminds me of when we were kids and would say "I swear on my mother's grave!" I mean we were bullshitting and we knew it but wanted to sound really authentic.

It is almost as hilarious as when someone says they cannot tell a lie because they go to church on Sunday.

"Fact check" is synonymous to "censorship"
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@CestManan i agree wholeheartedly
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
You right-wingers are an absolute joke. You want to constantly bring up the riots that happened two years ago? How about the fact that they went on for 4 months (late spring-early fall), and Donald Trump talked s**t but didn't really do much about them? I've never seen [b]that[/b] brought up 🤔.
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@SubstantialKick ... "...we know why ..." - how many deaths were caused by Democrats - their BLM/Antifa Wing - inciting violence - lets me see, 67 deaths - so WE KNOW WHY you people don't want to talk about it.
AND

$100's millions in damages across the country, if not BILLIONS
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BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@SubstantialKick ... nope, there was no incitement, so why would we need to change the subject ... nice try

...and who said you can't set up a post on here, anytime you want ... certainly wasn't me ... 🤪🤪🤪

🤔

... let me see, an insult that's "...at least a few years old?..." oh right, so i can't use it then, so insults that have been around for 100's of years i can't use either ... weird logic you basement dwellers abide by ... 🤪🤪🤪
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
Because the rioting, looting, and burning was declared a Justifiable Peaceful Protest by the Political Left and the MSM. What happened on 1/06/2021 was very wrong and illegal since it attacked the Political Left here in the USA.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@JoeyFoxx Right? And when you try to lend a hand...

@dakotaviper You made the claim, you supply the proof. That's how it works. If you can get beyond the vitriolic sweeping statements, maybe you'll find some fact to support your statements. Or maybe not.
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@Graylight Proof! Don't need it.

Why, because I've learned to accept that people like you will always be right and never ever wrong.
And you'll always belittle people who disagree with you.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@dakotaviper
Facts
Data
Information
Research results
Multiple source
Verification

Conjecture
Speculation
Gossip
Rhetoric
Unsubstantiated claims
A rigid narrative

One grouping allows for learning, debate, solutions and progression. The other is what you guys use. But it's that you can't even tell the difference that's saddest of all.
It absolutely was not.

The minority that believe it was so awful, are paid in tax contributions. Do the math
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@markansas I don't think folks like @dakotaviper are capable of differentiating.
@sunsporter1649 [image deleted][youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSDxvI4ex1Q] ya that is the left again at hard work. trying to save our men overseas.
@LordShadowfire all they want to do is push buttons and get a reaction. it kinda like what [image deleted]Twain said, never wrestle with a pig – it gets mud all over you and the pig likes it.
Torsten · 36-40, M
the only people who say that was worse are dimwitted liberals. It is the only thing they have that backs up their little moronic views on what a republican is.
The riots on the other hand are forgotten because of the organizations name and of course it was liberals doing it
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@Torsten ... similar concept when they tried to smear Trump with the story of locker room banter about women[b] 8 YEARS[/b] previously ... why didn't we say "is that all you have on Trump, something that happened 8 years ago"
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BigGuy2 just another thing they didn't really pay attention to what he said and just verbally copied what others around them said and tried to pass off as facts.
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@Torsten i know ... Thank God we're waking up to all this and calling them out on it
losthorizons · 51-55, M
It’s not. It’s all bullshit
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fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
@LordShadowfire It was not an insurrection! Look up the word in the dictionary!
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ididntknow · 51-55, M
It wasn’t, it’s just that the democrats and their propaganda machine made it more than it was,
Look up the definition of a coup.

And one was vandalism on empty buildings and one was an attempt to overthrown the government and storming a government building and disrupting the conduct of the government. If you can't figure out very basic distinctions you are too uneducated to discuss this seriously.
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@MarmeeMarch Just because you lemmings failed doesn't make it not a coup.
graphite · 61-69, M
Because Democrats supported all those rioters but not the 1/6 business. "It's not going to stop, nor should it." Kamala Harris
@sunsporter1649 Actually, I want the Supreme Court reduced to its constitutionally-mandated role of only hearing cases involving ambassadors and disputes between the states. A separate court could then be created for appellate jurisdiction over every other case. This court could be term-limited, or justices randomly selected from the federal bench, or any other method to prevent each vacancy from becoming an existential crisis.

If the Supreme Court was 6-3 liberal and a Republican was president, you'd want to expand it, too. Expanding the Supreme Court isn't the answer. It needs to be defanged and replaced, and Article III allows this.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom LOL, and just who would create this phantom court?
@sunsporter1649 Read the Constitution. Congress would create it.

But why should you care? The Supreme Court is dominated by Federalist Society hacks, so why change it? You could replace them with law clerks who would just follow Leonard Leo's instructions and you'd have the same result.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Short answer: It's not.

Long answer: The Democrats need to keep focusing attention on Trump and his supporters because they have botched pretty much everything they assured everyone they would take care of when Trump was gone.
@SumKindaMunster Again, a hangnail is not cancer. I suppose Jimmy Carter working with Habitat for Humanity is just showboating for his own presidential run in 2028.

George W. Bush hasn't exactly been silent, either, but nowhere near the level of the orange shitgibbon.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom And an analogy isn't a rebuttal.

Real talk Bloom. It doesn't matter what I say, you are going to continue to let former President Trump prey on your mind and you will continue to take out your frustration on those you believe supported him. There is no point in trying to reason with someone who is broken and traumatized. You can't reason away PTSD.

Get help.
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irishmolly72 · 51-55, F
I really miss when politics used to be fun. Michelle Bachman where are you?
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irishmolly72 · 51-55, F
@Graylight That's what she said!
irishmolly72 · 51-55, F
@BizSuitStacy Heels up Harris!
JesseInTX · 51-55, M
Because it became real to politicians. Before it never affected them. And it was an opportunity to disparage President Trump and those who supported him again.
Let's re-frame this for a moment: one group wanted a politician in power that serves the system that creates systemic racism, and larger, he took advantage of that, as president. The other's recognized by years as minorities, who deal with system racism, when they have an uprising after someone a police officer kills.... you think that's comparable?
@Strictgram Those peaceful Trump tower hotels?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@thewindupbirdchronicles You're whole framework is one of "systemic racism"?

That's the opinion of an indoctrinated NPC.
acpguy · C
@thewindupbirdchronicles You are a Canadian idiot that is part of a large group of idiots that have given up much of the freedoms like Australia and New Zealand. Socialists like you and the rest of your kind have no right to comment on USA affairs as you folks are thoroughly brain washed and do not have much in the brain department.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
It’s worse because the Democrats say it’s worse, and what they say is the only reality, even if it changes from one day to the next.
irishmolly72 · 51-55, F
Don't forget the Wisconsin capitol takeover by the left in 2011. Double standards anyone???
Slade · 56-60, M
@Somerset They were opportunistic riots and killing of completely innocent people. By lowlife hoodlums financed by the country's enemies.

That you try to justify it doesn't speak well to your character
irishmolly72 · 51-55, F
@Somerset I see. So it's ok if liberals do it because it was for a "good cause".
losthorizons · 51-55, M
@Somerset you really need to lay off the drugs. You are completely delusional
Heartlander · 80-89, M
When leftist threatened the White House there was mostly criticism of the then President Trump for showcasing and overreacting when he ramped up protection.

Does anyone really think that without the beefed up protect of the white house that the leftist thugs wouldn't have ransacked the White House?
MethDozer · M
@Heartlander thing is.... that didn't happen, and this did happen.
graphite · 61-69, M
Let's see: Rioters in Seattle set up an "autonomous zone" exempt from local, state and federal laws - an independent country, actually. Not to mention multiple attacks on federal buildings and police officers. No insurrection against the government here, folks. Move along...
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@markansas Changing the subject are ya? Let me know if you have a comment or rebuttal regarding my mockery of your ridiculous assertion that the Chapel Hill Autonomous Zone was "pretty peaceful". 😂
@SumKindaMunster no you are. look at start of post you drifted. a bit. grin.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@markansas Hmm, no. I was responding directly to your comment:

[quote]pretty peaceful.trump wanted to started sending in the army.Seattle[/quote]

I was highly amused that you chose to portray this event as "pretty peaceful"

So I did not change the subject, you did.

Anything else?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Because when some hippies bust up their local Starbucks that doesn’t affect me, but trying to torpedo a constitutionally mandated transfer of power can.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Why? Easy answer is that the media refers to violence by liberals and communist as "protest" and protest by conservatism as "violence".
SW-User
To those senators who sit up in the capital , knowing their democracy not ours kept that in mind . Was going to be ruined over and debated they were weak and scared by trumps patriotic speech . Pelois actually rejected help to have more security. Use the right words on the news to convince people that it was so bad , now they can catch trump and blame him .
Carla · 61-69, F
If you have to ask the question, you don't want the answer.
Graylight · 51-55, F
Because one happened and the other didn't. Because one was a reaction to a legal verdict and the other was a coordinated insurrection.

Why is 9/11 more impactful than months and months of deadly violence. it's not the duration.
SW-User
CNN reporters telling use the riots were peaceful '' Nothing bad here , just peaceful protesting '' as fires were in the background . Just to show use they were bias . They have no souls , no integrity to report the right news .
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Why is the rioting in the Northwest being used as justification by "the base" for the failed insurrection attempt on 6 January?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 You just don't want to deal with the fact that your orange savior has collaborated with authoritarians and terrorists his entire career.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
MasterLee · 56-60, M
1/6 was a liberal dress rehearsal for 2024.
Coffeequilt · 51-55, F
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Because it wasn't an uprising
@markansas When I was in college, there was a fraternity whose hazing ritual required fucking a sheep. It was eventually shut down after a girl was gang raped in the frat house by some members.
@LeopoldBloom before or after the sheep. ya i live in kansas and from colo. quite a change in people.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@MethDozer a riot...maybe
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1RiNNwoBa8]
@markansas Even the organizer of the original "rally" that turned into a riot is busy throwing everyone under the bus.
CestManan · 46-50, F
Because BLM didn't steal Nancy Peloski's podium. How could anyone stoop so low?
Elessar · 26-30, M
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Elessar HUUUUU HU HU HU HU

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RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
You really need to ask ?
@RodionRomanovitch It is not an honest question. Someone is trying very hard to create a false equivalence.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Or he's just trolling.
@RodionRomanovitch Given this fool's position on alot of things here I would not be surprised if he was there.
Notanymore · 36-40, M
Because we live in a world of hypocrisy
Shaveit · 61-69, M
The political agenda.
you are truly insane
Budwick · 70-79, M
It's not worse.
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOttQfLnEfE]
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@MarmeeMarch ya i feel the love the right. not right have for others.[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUv7hIVXKFQ]
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2aoYowq28]
SW-User
@markansas What a load of crap
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmtK9FzrD9Q]

 
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