Do you support the troops or do blue lives matter ?

@stratosranger [quote]Portland, Seattle and Minneapolis police departments can’t KEEP police officers. They’re leaving in droves. Anything else you care to be wrong about? [/quote]

Well, that wasn't your statement, was it? To be factual, here's what you said:

[quote]Yep, that’s what police departments do these days. The alternative is having whole towns burned down in “peaceful protests.”[/quote]

And in FACT, none of these cities fired their police officers. Portland saw some officers leave the police department, on their own, in protest, thinking that the Mayor will begging them to stay. This did not happen and good riddance to the Klanish elements of the Portland police department.

Seattle saw nearly 40 new recruits leave last fall. Good riddance. I am hoping the Police Union president would leave, he's as racist as they come and there's no way to get rid of him, unless he's voted out.

Two officers were suspended following video confirmation that they participated in the Jan 6th insurrection and attack on the US Capitol.

Minneapolis saw its attrition rate go from 45 officers, to 65 officers. Good riddance as well.

But more importantly, this has nothing to do with your statement. Anything else you care to be wrong about?

You were the one who brought up Minneapolis, Portland and Seattle. Remember? [quote] Not a single officer was fired in Seattle, Portland or Minneapolis[/quote] No. They’re leaving in droves. Too much woke bullshit. Anything else you care to be wrong about? @Northwest

@stratosranger [quote]You were the one who brought up Minneapolis, Portland and Seattle. Remember?[/quote]

Yes, and which part of

[quote]Not a single officer was fired in Seattle, Portland or Minneapolis[/quote]

Did you not understand?

[quote]No. They’re leaving in droves.[/quote]

Which is not the same as being fires. I am concerned that you don't have a firm grip on basic English. Are you able to follow a normal conversation?

Not to mention that "in droves" is a relative term, and in reality it means that the attrition rate went from 2.5% to 3.5%.

[quote]Too much woke bullshit[/quote]

OMG, how abusive of you.

Anything else you care to be wrong about?

@Graylight offering a pass for no wrongdoing.
What a good guy😖

@Spoiledbrat Google it. If anyone was resentful it was the Cops because a Black Man was driving a New Car.

@Pitchblue I agree.

what a joke. this guy wouldnt gotten beat or illegedly if he would have just complied. DUH @Pitchblue

@Spoiledbrat [quote]That is simply not true. Im white and ive yelled at to comply by a cop. [/quote]

You're very special.

you got to be kidding me. @Northwest

@Spoiledbrat [quote]
you got to be kidding me.[/quote]

No, really, you're a very special person. Something like this could have happened to you, for sure. 🤦‍♂️🤣

@whowasthatmaskedman Yes. Our country has issues.

@whowasthatmaskedman well our weak politicians for fear of being called racist dare not truly address the issue in communities of color where gun proliferation is. Much of this spills out of those communities and when those guns are involved in situations where police are called it is not good.

@soar2newhighs [quote]My point: you interact with law enforcement, don’t let your behavior result in an unfortunate or lethal situation.
we’re talking about citizens and police and their interactions.
[/quote]

The police should interact with me, just like a customer service representative does. With respect. In badly trained police departments, where they're taught that the police is an entitled class, to be feared, never look straight into the eyes, answer to things in "yes sir"" and "no sir", you can't ask them questions, and you are lucky you're not in handcuffs, you are going to end up with entitled pricks, who think they're to be adored and "obeyed", no questions asked, and if you don't comply, "we're going to do a few things to your body".

In police departments, where they're trained to think of themselves as public servants, there to protect and serve, and have polite interactions with people, you don't run into too many problems.

[quote]
The tyrants you cite, disarmed their population and subjugated them.[/quote]

Right, they were all for law & order and kept the trains running on time. For the life of me, I don't know why US Conservatives are not in love with modern day China.

@soar2newhighs [quote] The department investigators who found that the officer violated department procedures are police officers with law enforcement experience. [/quote]
They’ve been there.

And of course I can judge. After all - as a tax paying citizen, I am a client of these bozos.

@QuixoticSoul simple...the Lt. Should have complied.

@stratosranger [quote]Yet you’re of the same ilk that believes that Americans do not have the right to own arms. We know who you are so seriously, stop[/quote]

Nothing I said in this thread, or any other thread, implies what you've stated.

Who is "we"? More passive aggressive disinformation?

More to the point, how is this a response to anything I said here?

So, one more time, why is Greg Kelly denying him his 2nd Amendment rights? Or his 4th Amendment rights? Or his First Amendment rights? Or is he just doing it because he's black?

@MarmeeMarch is a check-up going to make me hear something different?

@soar2newhighs you fucking troll

Why else do you think he got fired?

@JoeyFoxx You tell me , genius.

@soar2newhighs because he violated protocol.

Genius

@Synyster No. I live in the US. Not Canada douchebag. 🙂

@Zonuss
I know you live in the US in Compton, dumbass.

@Synyster You wish Canadian troll. ☺️

@Justenjoyit it’s hard for a dead person to file a complaint tho

@JoeyFoxx who is dead?

@Justenjoyit try to keep up.

@Adogslife Are you saying that Blacks are violent and Whites are not. Youre in for it now. 🤣

@Zonuss No. We have the whole “mass murder” thing on our side which is much more disturbing than the above. 🙄

The only thing I do find odd is the “rage”. If it was a black cop killing a white man, we’d think, “Fuck it. He probably deserved it.” And five seconds later it’d be an afterthought. It wouldn’t even make the news. Rarely does.

But, if we’re staying in topic, white cop killing a black man... my first thought is, was the man armed? If not, no matter what, you can’t use lethal force in any circumstance unless the force attacking you is lethal. That kind of power trip should cost you your badge, if not your freedom. That’s what you signed up for.

@Adogslife What a pandering little girl. You go to all trouble of making a huge reply with numbers then you asked if you are saying if blacks are more violent than whites. Then, like a little pussy you have to bring up "mass murder"pinning that on whites - what a pathetic, impotent, little white fool.
I am surprised you didn't say that you have lots of black friends....
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@QuixoticSoul
You're right, I thought I heard him say he was a vet, my bad.

give me a break. they just asked him to get out of the car. like get out. jesus @Graylight

@Spoiledbrat Said someone who's never been pulled over for being black. Being a police officer imbues no one with the carte blanche to treat another person like that.

My registration has lapsed. No officer ever pulled me over with guns drawn telling me I ought to be scared to exit a vehicle and then commanding me to do it. You?

@MarmeeMarch We know the situation. He was pulled over for not having a rear license plate (had a temp one taped to the back windshield).

@Quetzalcoatlus Just like they did on January the 6th. 🙂

@MrPerditus1 There are good cops and there are bad ones. These were bad cops and they got what they deserve. No need to be long winded here. Good day. 🙂

@Zonuss I've had a great day thanks and to make sure this one isn't so "long winded" lol I'll share this...again, I go by what I saw...and when he stopped complying, it got worse. Simply put "Generally speaking, police do not have to tell you why they are stopping you before asking for ID in a traffic stop, though it may be a standard practice in many areas." Not saying what they did was right, just that we don't know it all.

Hope you're doing well.

@vetguy1991 I think it began before the men ever met each other.

@Pitchblue he was only afraid because after he refused to follow orders. it was his own doing. he acted like he had more authority than the cops did..

@Spoiledbrat With these Cops if you pulled over on the dark road where they wanted to pull the Lieutenant over you would have been raped or killed.

i cant avoid cops because im afraid of them. they have the aithority so if im asked to pull over im going to pull over. one cant judt not obey the law because one THINKS a cop is dirty or might be dirty. give a break. i would have had no reason to be afraid because mist cops are good law abiding citezens. and if what youre saying about me raped is so true then the race card need not apply. because then they would just he dirty. and there is a body cam btw. @Pitchblue

@spjennifer

. Where did he threaten the man that would have caused the officer to be fired?

@soar2newhighs Right around 1:30 where the Cop tells him "You're fixin' to ride the lightning son" and again where the driver says "I'm honestly afraid to get out" and the Cop tells him "You should be" at about 1:55 those are both threats and the Cops should not have threatened him which is probably what got him fired.

@soar2newhighs Because he abused his power. Some of these idiots here don't have a clue about what goes on with the police department behind closed doors. I had classmates and cousins who left the police force for good reasons.

@stratosranger Good point. But some of these idiots think all cops are good. 🙂

Agreed. Some people earn disrespect as well. @Harriet03

@stratosranger Yes
Some cops do.

@Kwek00 Very simple.
If the circumstances lead a police officer to reasonably believe that you have committed, are committing, or are about to commit a crime, the officer can legally detain you until they can confirm or eliminate their suspicions.
This authority to briefly stop you goes back to an important Supreme Court case from 1967—Terry v. Ohio.
This case set the precedent that a police officer can stop and question a person if the police officer is “…performing a legitimate function of investigating suspicious conduct.”
These types of stops are known as either “Terry stops” (after the court case) or “investigative stops.”
During a “Terry stop,” an officer can legally ask you for identification, as well as frisk you for weapons.

Again, this is THE LAW. Not my opinion, not my precious feelings. Law son. Snap out of it and wake up.

@stratosranger What part off:

[quote]He went to the side of the road, put his hands outside the window and asked several times why he had to undergo this treatment in the first place? [/quote]

Wasn't clear to you?

What part of “he failed to stop his vehicle and continued driving for a mile before he finally stopped” do you not understand? Try it the next time a cop turns on his wig wags behind you and see what happens. @Kwek00

But in sexier midnight blue @TheOneyouwerewarnedabout

@meJess That would likely be a shooter or sniper. And living each day all day with a weapon in a war zone is slightly different than a profession in which a person isn't likely to ever draw their weapon, much less fire it.

@Graylight I thought US police officers were obligated to practice regularly. A long serving one should know what the weapon feels like.

@meJessMost departments I'm aware of practice an hour a month. There is in service training, but it usually revolves around things other than physical training and conditioning. And the range training we're talking about is standing and firing at a target. The most dynamic it ever gets is when the officer is instructed to walk toward the target while firing. Hardly learning to live with your weapon as an extension of your body.

More than that, most officers never even draw a weapon. I come from a family of four Camden, NJ police officers, one of whom was the chief of police for years. In four separate careers in a violent city during civil rights riots, not one of them ever drew a service revolver except for a picture. We can have an army that protects police against citizens or we can have a police force that protects citizens against injustice.

The one cop does rsort to yelling. Maybe he should have walked away with his tail between his lwgs since the lieutenant obviously knows he doesnt have to do anything hes told. @cycleman

@MarmeeMarch Only for armed response teams. Not for traffic cops.
We have this concept of policing by consent.

@whowasthatmaskedman You have zero proof that any of those things ever happened. However I have actually seen a false flag event. So who's the dummy now. 🙂

@Zonuss Rather than sling an allegation at you, I will leave it to others to judge that. I think we are done here.

@whowasthatmaskedman Yes I think so too. You're not real enough to deal with the truth. And it's raw
Good day.

@Tres13 You’ll go to jail.

Now you mf !@QuixoticSoul

@Tres13 no u

@AthrillatheHunt Gallows humor, but that sounds like the title to a new board game.

@Zonuss That may be true but I just saw myself as the dude and would of stepped out of compliance. I guess our laws in Canada are different.

@caesar7 so you would have taken your hards out sight below where 2 officers holding you at gunpojint no longer can see your hands. 2 offciers who are obviously completely incompetenent and would propably shoot you as soon as your seat belt snaps.

but people like you would propably justify that then by he could have just kept showing his hands.

these police officers are giving contradicting orders

@Bad4U I wouldn't have to go through all that if I did as I was told out of respect for the law.

@MarmeeMarch He obviously had a reason to ask that question. Illegal searches are real and many lawsuits have been filed because of it. More mumbo jumbo from a dumbo.