Do you support the troops or do blue lives matter ?

@caesar7 the police officders conducted in a criminal way.. should you obey the orders of a criminal ? or does integrity count something ? i head the us army still views integrity and personal responsibilty in high regards. but that doesnt seem to be the case with a part of the population who follows tyran orders like sheep

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right?? they simply asked him to get out if the car. theyre cops. the rest could have been figured out later at the police station or after he got out. @caesar7

@stratosranger I hope you also caught that this video is a parody? And that Chris Rock clearly points to the racism and excessive violence? This is one of those, "it's funny because it's real" kind of things, but a number of white people that post this clip around seem to not get that part of the joke because they are laughing with the stereotypical black guy thug that just gets kicked into the ground by overly active white cops that apperently come in droves.

On the contrary, I am laughing at anyone who thinks that disrespect is going to earn them anything else but disrespect. If someone comes at you with a shit attitude are you going to be respectful towards them? No. @Kwek00

@caesar7 I'm just glad you are not in a position of power.

@Kwek00 The world would be a better place ...believe me.

@stratosranger Shit attitude? The man, sticks his hands out of the window and askes repeatedly why he's being asked to step out of the car. The cop could have just answered the question. But instead, both actors decided not to comply with the others request and the person with the weapons just decideds to mace the car?

If that is the police force you want, you go for it... just keep it out of my backyard with that kind of bullshit. Because citizens have rights too.

@caesar7
[quote][b]This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.[/b]

- Plato, [i]The Republic[/i][/quote]

@Kwek00 Oh did you miss the part where he failed to stop for over a mile? Or that he had a loaded weapon on the passenger seat? Yeah. The usual stuff the media fails to tell you while they spin their narrative.

@stratosranger Apperently driving below the speed limit with his emergency lights on. Do you consider that a way of trying to get away from the police or something?

A little driving 101 tip for ya: If a cop car turns on his wig wags behind you, pull over. It’s called THE LAW. But if you disagree by all means I recommend you go ahead and keep driving like this clown did. See where that gets ya. 🤣 @Kwek00

@stratosranger Really depends where I'm driving honest. I wouldn't be the first one that just drives to place where they can park. But apperently, the authority in the US is so strict that you have to stop, step out, get on the ground and put your hands on your head. Because that's just an indicator of a healthy society or something.

I drove professionally for twenty years. I’ve been stopped a half dozen times and have never experienced any of these problems. And you know why? Because I obeyed the law. Because I wasn’t a jackass trying to provoke cops. In fact in all of those instances I also NEVER GOT A TICKET! Just a warning. It’s called being part of polite society and showing respect. Respect earns respect. A concept that is being rapidly forgotten in this “it’s all about me” society. @Kwek00

@stratosranger How is putting your emergency lights on, driving below the speed limit, and parking at a gas station provoking? Sticking your hands out of the window and asking continuously why he should comply in the first place, being a jackass?

And how can you talk about respect, when you support a cop that delivers 0 answers to the person they are trieing to detain and then mace his car?

Any lawyer will tell you to do the following things. Comply. You are not required to answer questions. If the cops want to make stupid mistakes, let them. It’s their careers on the line at that point, most especially now that cameras are everywhere. But again, feel free to make the same jackass mistakes this guy made and see where it gets you. @Kwek00

@stratosranger Well, if that's the society you are rooting for. You go for it. Just keep it off my lawn, and if it happens on my lawn, then fire the cop. Which apperently happened. Good job.

You’re not very good at handling reality. Disrespect earns disrespect. It’s not a hard thing to understand. But again, by all means go do what this clown did and see how it all shakes down in court. Maybe then you’ll learn something. @Kwek00

@stratosranger If the court agrees with me? Will you then have learned something?

Agrees with what? That you disobeyed a police officer, were belligerent, had an improperly tagged vehicle and a loaded firearm in your car? GOOD LUCK! 😂@Kwek00

@stratosranger Well, apperently the courts are the ones that decide on right and wrong in this case. So if the courts agrees that the police officer used excessive violence in this scenario, then they pretty much agree with me. So I guess you should learn something from that in that occasion?

I personally think that seeing a court as the arbitter between "right" and "wrong" for you as an individual, is kinda creepy. But if that is how your brain works, then I'll run with that argument.

As I mentioned earlier, I drove for twenty years. I have a friend who is an attorney who spelled out THE LAW in very simple terms. Lights come on behind you? You have to pull over. That was mistake #1. Vehicles must be clearly tagged. Mistake #2. Driving with an armed handgun in the vehicle was mistake #3. Continued failure to comply after being informed that “you will be detained” is mistake #4. So don’t be shocked if a judge finds that the officers were in their right to do what they did. And to correct you, this is not MY opinion. These are just facts that were clearly spelled out to me by an attorney who deals with morons who do all the wrong things in traffic stops every day. . @Kwek00

@stratosranger I honestly don't care how long you have been driving a car strosranger. I only care about how how the police and subject interact with eachother. Your personal anekdotes are totally irrelevant to the conversation.

And he did pull over, he put his hands out of the window and asked why he should have been pulled over in the first place. Not to mention why he should step out.

The officer couldn't know that their was a armed hangun, that was probably found out AFTER the incident. So that also doesn't matter.

The question then is, was this kind of force nescessary in the current moment? You have a person that is asking why he needs to step out, with his hands outside of the window. And he got maced annyway. If your lawyer is okay with that, well, just keep your friend out of my backyard. Thank you verry much.

But don't be amazed if the judge rules otherwise. And apperently, in that case, you should be the one that learned a lessons. I also wonder how that attorney thinks, because the man clearly has some clairvoiance going on to judge something with elements that are clear after the facts.

@Kwek00 What is relevant is the law. Break the law, pay the consequences. Go ahead and try what he did and let us know how it all worked out for ya.

@stratosranger But we didn't even come to the point where he broke the law yet. How did he break law? He went to the side of the road, put his hands outside the window and asked several times why he had to undergo this treatment in the first place? So... we'll wait for the judge to see if he broke the law, it's not as clear as someone smashing in a window and taking someones television out the front door.