Do you support the troops or do blue lives matter ?

@Justenjoyit if a policeman randomly stopped you and pulled out a gun despite you not having done anything wrong, would you ask questions?

You have first find out what is the trouble. That's why he should have gotten out of the car when asked. A cop is a cop. They have the authority to stop you and make an inquiry. @JoeyFoxx

Some people here can’t seem to figure that out. Some people think they’re above the law. Some people think it’s OK to keep driving when a cop turns on his lights behind them. Then to top it off they’re all shocked and surprised when things like this occur. To sum up, some people are really stupid! @Justenjoyit

@JoeyFoxx No I would not, I would get out and do what he says, afterwards if I have felt violentated then I would have submitted a complaint.

@Justenjoyit Because he had his camera phone on. It’s pretty obvious he was waiting to be the next “victim.”

@stratosranger Well he was definitely putting himself in danger.

@Justenjoyit That's what I'd do, too, but my experience with law enforcement as a white woman isn't the same as a black man's. Which is kind of what this whole thing is about.

So the answer is to defy the cop?? He couldn't have been that scared. @Graylight

@Graylight well being silly with the police does not help your case, if the Man had gotten out of the car in the first place this would not be news, and maybe things had of calmed down after the police saw he was in uniform.

@Justenjoyit Silly? He was more polite than any citizen I've heard on camera in the last six months. He was professional and exceedingly clear about why he didn't want to exit. His fears were confirmed when he was told he [i]should[/i] be scared.

He could've gotten out first, but he might've been shot then, too. These officers chose to pull over a brand new vehicle which they knew damn well probably had a temp tag inside but might result in a ticket anyway. They did it shouting and with guns drawn. When was the last time police approached your vehicle like that for a minor traffic stop?

You know what? Don't answer. The fact you're defending this action at all says everything about you and there's no point.

@Graylight I am just looking at it in a very fair way, just get out of the car and do what the cops say, afterwards submit a official complaint and by all means post the video on the net.

@Justenjoyit All of this would have been a non-issue if he had stopped a mile earlier. Again, he just wanted to be the next “victim.”

@Justenjoyit I hear you, and normally that would absolutely be my advice. Any argument can be settled [i]after [/i]compliance. The problem is, we have a problem with shooting, beating and otherwise treating innocent but black motorists.

Sometimes you hear rumors that police can pull over anyone for any tiny reason in order to go fishing for a bigger violation. They shouldn't, but I can tell you first-hand that is absolutely what happens. I've seen bicycles pulled over just to check pockets. This is pure conjecture, but my guess is they found a reason to hassle a suspect vehicle that might turn into something worthy of taking their time. The came looking for a fight and when they didn't get one, they created one.

I respect the police, I think they're a crucial element of society and I fully understand why an unknown subject has to be controlled. But if this could have ended with a conversation - and it could have - then it seems handguns and pepper spray were a little much.

I didn't grow up with "the conversation." Women have one - it's about being safe from men. So we do, say, behave in ways meant to keep us alert and safe. On a constant basis. Black children also have a set of rules, but it involves the historical brutality of the police. The two communities may simply not regard law enforcement in the same fashion and both may have reason to do so.

Regardless, pulling a gun on a man asking questions is not a good way to start an encounter.

@Graylight I do get it, and I do get the frustrations, I can certainly see that on that mans face, it's very sad that people are scared of the very people who are there to protect you. maybe with today's technology and the web things can be better understood.

@Justenjoyit That's all we can hope for - that we stumble on the solution to help make sure no one has to experience this on either side.

@Graylight But me personally I would of got out of the car lol

@Justenjoyit Noted.

@Justenjoyit well, of course you would. White people generally don’t have as much to fear.

The white experience: most officers are unlikely to make irrational requests and compliance to those requests rarely has an negative impact.

The black experience: being pulled over for being black in the “wrong” place continues to be a thing. There are hundreds of documented cases of otherwise innocent non-whites being physically abused and/or arrested for no valid reason.

To trivialize it as being “silly” demonstrates a lack of comprehension of the reality of law enforcement in the US since World War I.

@JoeyFoxx I would have thought if you are being silly with the police in the US or in anyother country in the world you are asking for trouble.

@Justenjoyit silly?

@JoeyFoxx have you ever travelled to the middle east? try being silly there with the police.

@Justenjoyit you seem to struggle to stay on topic

@Justenjoyit So then, I assume you're all for the forgiveness and absolution of the officer who accidentally shot Mr. Wright during a recent traffic stop. After all, if he'd simply "gone along," he'd probably be alive, right?

@JoeyFoxx My topic and still is just do what the police say, then afterwards if you feel you have had an injustice against you file a complaint.

@Justenjoyit it’s hard for a dead person to file a complaint tho