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Do u believe Donald Trump is to blame for the recent shootings in the US ? 🤔

As it stands today. It appears that Trump has emboldened these White Nationalists to commit these acts of terror. The recent events in our world today says everything. You saw the shootings in Texas and Ohio. White Nationalism, or nationalism from any ethnic group or race is the problem here. If we do not call it for what it is this tragedy will never end. Something needs to be done. But these racist comments from Trump must end. What do you think. 😐
MartikaDuponte1 · 36-40, F Best Comment
Whilst I don’t agree with censorship as such, I do think that people do have to be careful with words. Words carry weight. Words can make us think or make laugh/cry.

People with a big platform do have to understand how people will take their words.

So, whilst you shouldn’t take full responsibly for another’s actions, you should be tactful/respectful/honest in what you put out to the public.

Trump has a habit of pulling people down with inaccuracies, people that he doesn’t agree with. The Mayor of London states something about a British issue in America and next we hear is that he is doing a rubbish job and he’s responsible for ‘rivers of blood’ in London....

How does that look? That England is a scary place to live. Fact is, there is some violence, of course, but nothing like what is displayed by Trump’s words...

Call out Mexicans and blame them for taking US jobs just leads to hate of those people and holding them to task for unemployment.

Fact is, we had a little taste of that with the influx of Eastern European’s in the uk....a minority slagged them off for taking British jobs, yet these were menial jobs that those self-same brits turned their noses up at! Someone has to do these jobs and, to their credit, these overseas immigrants came and did them!

Trump never tends to think of the implications of his words and his actions.....

...and that is sad...

M x
@TwistedSister Still spreading that fairy tale? Next you are going to claim they got lost on a tour.
@sunsporter1649 Proving as always you have no idea what is going on.
Wiseacre · F
@TwistedSister complete nonsense

Adstar · 56-60, M
Nationalism is the love for ones nation.. That being the country that one lives in..

The interpretation that nationalism is the love for ones own race to the exclusion of all others is not accurate.. It is a globalist propaganda point that has been repeated so often people are starting to think that their changed definition of Nationalism is what nationalism really is..
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@whippersnapper Are you a globalist?
@ididntknow

Fuck no

Just because I correct someone's incorrect definition of a word doesn't mean I want to hold hands with everyone and sing Kumbaya. Jesus 🙄
Adstar · 56-60, M
@whippersnapper Well i disagree with the definition when it says ""especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.""" Just because one loves their nation does not mean they hate or seek the detriment of other nations..
Baremine · 70-79, C
but traditionally white nationalist are Democrats. Always have been. It is the republicans that have fought for equality.
kentex35 · 100+, M
@Baremine What!? That's crazy talk no one believes that except the cultists. One thing old trump got more influence than reverend moon. No mask no vaxx they are killing their audience.
@Baremine

What a load of horse shit. AND you KNOW it!

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right relative to the 1950s.
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Trump emboldened White Supremacists. He knew there were a lot of them out there so he pandered to them for their votes. He believed if he got their votes he wouldn't have to chase undecided votes.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@sunsporter1649 May the screams in your head subside just long enough to let you know what a tortured soul you really are.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@MarkPaul 😂 This was funny
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Zonuss 🥺
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
My answer is YES. Why?


CROWD: Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump!

TRUMP: Thank you. I’d love to have, if those tens of thousands of people would be allowed, the military, the secret service, and we want to thank you, and the police law enforcement. Great. You’re doing a great job, but I’d love it if they could be allowed to come up here with us. Is that possible? Can you just let them come up, please? Rudy, you did a great job. He’s got guts. You know what? He’s got guts, unlike a lot of people in the Republican party. He’s got guts, he fights. He fights, and I’ll tell you.

[...]

TRUMP: For years, Democrats have gotten away with election fraud and weak Republicans, and that’s what they are. There’s so many weak Republicans. We have great ones, Jim Jordan, and some of these guys. They’re out there fighting the House. Guys are fighting, but it’s incredible.

[...]

TRUMP: Unbelievable, what we have to go through, what we have to go through and you have to get your people to fight. If they don’t fight, we have to primary the hell out of the ones that don’t fight. You primary them. We’re going to let you know who they are. I can already tell you, frankly.

[...]

TRUMP: Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer, and we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. We’re going to have to fight much harder and Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us. If he doesn’t, that will be a sad day for our country because you’re sworn to uphold our constitution. [...] We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.

[...]

TRUMP: And we were going to sit home and watch a big victory. And everybody had us down for a victory. It was going to be great. And now we’re out here fighting. I said to somebody, I was going to take a few days and relax after our big electoral victory. Ten o’clock, it was over. But I was going to take a few days.

[...]

TRUMP: But it used to be that they’d argue with me, I’d fight. So I’d fight, they’d fight. I’d fight, they’d fight. Boop-boop. You’d believe me, you’d believe them. Somebody comes out. They had their point of view, I had my point of view. But you’d have an argument. Now what they do is they go silent. It’s called suppression. And that’s what happens in a communist country. That’s what they do. They suppress. You don’t fight with them anymore, unless it’s a bad. They have a little bad story about me, they’ll make it 10 times worse and it’s a major headline.

[...]

TRUMP: I say that over and over, and I never get challenged by the fake news, and they challenge almost everything we say. But our fight against the big donors, big media, big tech and others is just getting started. This is the greatest in history. There’s never been a movement like that. You look back there all the way to the Washington Monument. It’s hard to believe. We must stop the steal and then we must ensure that such outrageous election fraud never happens again, can never be allowed to happen again, but we’re going forward.

[...]

TRUMP: Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.” And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.


Mention for peacefull protest = 1.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

When the crowd yelled: FIGHT FOR TRUMP , the answer was: THANK YOU.

The word fight was used 20 times in his speech.
And if you don't show strength and you don't FIGHT LIKE HELL you won't have a country annymore. It's all or nothing!

What do you expect from a demagogue?

He also let Rudi Giulliani on the stage who said:

"Let's have a trial by combat!"

Back to the middle ages! Yeehaw!


SOURCE: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 It was just sarcasm
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Zonuss Yeah okay, but what does that entire string of words mean to you, so I can at least understand what you are being sarcastic about?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 It was sarcasm. End of discussion.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
Get rid of ANTIFA and BLM
@stratosranger 2020 happened on Twitler’s watch.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@stratosranger That was so lame. 🙂
@Jake966 Best answer.
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
He's not as bad as Maxine Waters, but no one will post her about her shit
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Virgo79 At least you got vaccinated. Congratulations.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Virgo79 It's amazing how afraid the men in the GOP are afraid of women. 🙂
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
@Zonuss i dont understand that , but ok
@sunsporter1649 Again, I am not the one living every day in terror. All your posts are about everything you are afraid of and think everyone else should be cowering under the bed with you.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow So your hiding behind your keyboard.....again
@sunsporter1649 Again, that is all you.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
I think Your a dangerous liberal crackpot !
@Zonuss I thought he was being sarcastic but sarcasm is hard to read, right?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays NO. They are self destructive degenerates. It's fun watching them step on their own feet. 🤔🙂
@Zonuss . . . or slip and fall on their own shit.
Trump caused a spike in right-wing terrorism, and some of the recent shootings have been over right-wing issues, but not all of them. Most of them have just been crazy people with guns, which is a problem America has had for quite a while.
@redredred And still pretending this has anything at all to do with the topic.

Funny how you push DOJ stats when it fits your white power agenda but when the same department states that white radicals like you are the greatest terror threat by a massive margin you immediately reject it because it doesn't match your emotions.
@redredred Thin blue line.....except when I don't like their facts.
@BohemianBabe Charlottesville, "They have good people on their side, very fine people on both sides" He had a way of reaching some people and bringing out the worst in them, both sides. The law-and-order president AKA: Stable Genius was an 'Equal Opportunity' violence inciter.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
I just tripped up, banged my head,

Damm that man Trump,
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@ididntknow I know you're not going to read it, because you're terrified of being wrong, but here's a transcript of the speech he gave.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-capitol-siege-media-e79eb5164613d6718e9f4502eb471f27
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@ididntknow Im pretty sure if Obama was still president you would blame him for the riots as well as January 6th. You're a big fat joke.☺️
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@ididntknow [media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTjGuavtsVU]
Valerian · 100+, M
Biden is (was, now he's too senile) much more racist that Donald Trump has ever been!
Biden is a Paternalistic Pandering Racist who faked feeling sorry for the "Poor Negros" and always voted to keep them Dependent on the Democrats' ...

Nationalistic, Conservative Whites may be enamored with Trump, but you'll not find him encouraging them to violence.

The Media may have quickly, joyfully, Fantasized that and still keep the narrative,
but Trump (and most Americans) just doesn't like the Nation being Ruined and Pulled from it's Roots by the Progressives Atypical Socialistic Ideals being espoused lately
kentex35 · 100+, M
Nobody want goddamn socialism. We are the only industrialized nations paying out the ass for insurance. Insurance just wants to cover the stuff that's not going to happen the real shit will get you cancelled. We pay tense of thousands for a broken bone. Hundreds of thousands for a complicated delivery/birth and millions for cancer treatment. Check it out. A bunch of non socialist countries just paying a couple of hundred bucks for a broken bone. A couple thousand for complicated birth under a hundred thousand for cancer treatment. These insurance companies own you and your land so who is socialist? You think you own it. Remember your one heart beat away from catastrophe. That's when your sell cheap,, your house and land.
@Valerian Thanks for proving me right that you are a right wing cold war cliche with that statement. And who came up with that definition? Glenn Beck?
JonathanC · 61-69, M
@Valerian What a load of shit.
Look at where the majority of shootings are occurring and what states and cities they’re in, by who and the DAs that do not prosecute criminals but let them return to the streets to continue to act out their criminal behavior that often results in innocent people bring shot and killed.
Why isn’t anyone ranting g and raving about the mass shooting in Harlem over Juneteenth weekend in NYC, where one person was killed, 8 others injured.
Nah, can’t support the narrative of the democrats and DAs who are put into their position by funding from George Soros.
Baremine · 70-79, C
@Zonuss no it is not. Pull your head out of the sand.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Baremine Recent threats going on now towards government law enforcement. You seem mighty quiet lately. 🤔
Baremine · 70-79, C
@Zonuss I haven't been feeling tip top lately and my grandson isn't thinking to well. His girlfriend got kicked out of the house so they decided to get married in 6 weeks. He has a security job and she doesn't have a job. Haven't had a chance to really think about the dumb shit the government is doing.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
"F" the NRA... they are the real culprits.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@sunsporter1649 And you're all hot and bothered for a pic. Pathetic. Maybe you should get a hobby... offline.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@MarkPaul No guts, no glory, markie boy
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@sunsporter1649 Well, now you're just seeming to be desperate. And, that never works. Try to control your urges.
jackson55 · M
Trump is the blame for everything including the weather.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
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Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@jackson55 The pseudo liberals are on the war path because their heroes are being exposed for the filthy criminals they are. Naturally it is time to have another Trump bashing fest!
All I know is that America = fighting about everything all the time. I used to think my country was crazy but now I’m assured we are not the only ones. You can’t even have a decent discussion with people about general things and you’re insulted these days. Sorry for the Americans that aren’t like that, but these days it’s my experience more and more.
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Wow! You’ve had a busy day. They’re just all over the map with the names!. I tell them, “Can you just pick one and stick with it? Like redneck, cracker, ghost face, Redumblican, or inbred jerk face?” 😂 @LilithoftheTrees
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@stratosranger A wounded dog makes a lot of noise.
Trump was the only president to lose The House, The Senate, and the White House. He's the biggest loser in history. More factories closed or moved out of the country when he was in office. Or should I say on the golf course? lol
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@ididntknow January 6th says you are a liar..🙂
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@Zonuss your comments confirm you are a top rate idiot
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@LillyOLilly you are talking rubbish
Domestic Terrorism is the number one threat to the US today and Trump emboldened them. He encouraged them to come out from under their rocks and organize.
@ididntknow You just keep repeating this NBC, MSNBC, CNN bullshit. You are a Republican Party Propaganda Puppet. Just hit play. This isn't even top 100 Trolling for S W. It's just repetitive shit.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@Pitchblue oh look, it’s mr CNN, with their narrative
@ididntknow On No, CNN I'm so insulted!!!! What happened to Snowflake?
redredred · M
That’s a significant reach even for delusional lefttards. Come January 2025 when he’s back in the White House things will be much better in this country.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@redredred Even with Joe Biden...the Democrats have a much better economic record than the GOP ever will. Trust me...we don't care. At least we hold our leader accountable when he isn't doing so well. So like grow a pair for once in your life. You might like yourself more. But even that is a bit of a stretch. 🙂
windinhishair · 61-69, M
The unemployment rate was higher when Trump left office than when he took office. Fewer people were employed. Trump was the first and only president to lose jobs during his failed term in office in the post-WWII era. Even George W. Bush had a small increase, though it took him 8 years to do it. The economy was in worse shape when Trump left office than when he came in, and he convinced tens of millions of Republicans that COVID was a hoax. Due to his malfeasance, well over a million Americans have died, and at least as many have long COVID they are struggling with. By just about any measure, Trump's term in office was an abject failure. He will not run again, and if he did, he would be soundly defeated again, by an even larger margin than his second popular vote loss. @redredred
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Adogslife · 61-69, M
Instead of just “yelling” racism and pointing fingers, which may not be entirely wrong, the black community needs to decide how THEY would like to be perceived and what THEY can do to change that perception.

White people can’t change black on black crime, criminal tolerance, lower education standards and fatherless families. None of these issues are entirely “black” per se, but they do largely affect perceptions and reality in the black community.

It can be done, but not without the community looking inward and changing the focus of blame.

Perfect example: When I was young, the horrible stereotype of Chinese was that they all owned or worked at laundry mats. Now a part of that may be true, but as a community they decided to change that perception.

Now, 2021, what is the perception of their community? It’s that their children are the smartest, most hard working in the world.
Third class citizens to Ivy League graduates in less than two generations.

And what was the public assistance they were afforded? Nil.

Change can occur, but it will never occur with your (pl) finger pointing outward to blame others for your lack of success. It’s not the system. It’s you, the individual, that can make a difference and that difference isn’t black or white.

So, now that Trump is gone, along with his fucking idiotic Twitter penchant, let’s judge what the black community can do to evolve. I’ll only suggest that little happened under 8 years with Obama, so it’s not about a President. Like Obama or not, no one can belittle the absolute class and dignity that he set as an example. But, somehow everyone remained indignant.

So, it’s not the system. It’s not a political party. It’s individual responsibility and that’s got little to do with privilege, pigment or political party.

A great deal also is perspective. You have a choice. Be angry about where you came from or optimistic about where you’re going.

The optimist will always succeed.
@Adogslife You are right about one thing though. Neither party has the interests of the lower class in mind. That is why most minorities have checked out of electoral politics entirely and join mass movements. Even peer reviewed studies have proven the US government works exclusively for big business and oligarchs and anything that benefits the lower working classes is so small it can be written off as statistical error.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Adogslife There you go again with your narrow minded Conservative rhetoric. I'm not a soul justice warrior. Or anti White. I'm anti racist. That means I object to all forms of racial or cultural supremacy from any racial or ethnic group. We cannot afford to ignore these social ills as things have gotten much worse over the. Your lack of empathy and intelligence is what's the problem. If a White male gets shot unarmed by a cop that is wrong. I have made posts time and time again about that. When I do nobody wants to talk about it. Why? Because people are afraid of the truth. Police brutality is a real problem. And the stuff you don't see on the news would make your skin crawl. There is violence in every race. The educational system has failed everyone. Student debt at an all time high. Fatherless homes abound. Getting rid of corruption and systemic Racism is what will even the playing field. Because even when Blacks were slaves and we're a family unit racism affected them even more so then. Google Black Wall Streets. And you will see. But the truth remains we must.look for solutions. And a lot of progress has been made. 🤔
@Adogslife Here is a video that provides a bit of perspective on how race and class are linked to the problem. Unfortunately it doesn't cover how some of the biggest Fortune 500 companies use prison slave labour and lobby for harsh sentences and how private prisons make profits on occupancy like a hotel so recidivism is a feature not a bug.

[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHzLtjR_hdY]

Police brutality is part of this system and exists to enforce the system with an iron fist.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
No... Trump is not blame for half the things he gets blamed for. Sure, he didnt to a thing to fix some of the stuff he could have. But thats different. In fact, Americans are to blame for Trump. Ans until they learn to act responsibly they will continue to be their own worst enemies.😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@TwistedSister So your argument is that because the other side is $hyte as well that makes it alright. I blame the voters for both sides. Maybe America should go back to being a British Colony so it can be voted on by Grown Ups. They have Boris Jo...........wait a moment. Let me think that through...😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Zonuss I dont deny Trump is a lying cheating sack of Shyte.. But he actually did almost nothing while in office to run the nation. Just to cover up his own mistakes and fill his pockets.😷
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@TwistedSister He was actually impeached for shaking down the President of Ukraine by withholding foreign aid authorized by Congress until he started a fake "investigation" of Joe Biden's son. Trump's team did coordinate with the Russians to help with the election, which the Mueller Report makes clear, but because all of the Republicans clammed up, Mueller couldn't directly tie the threads together. This is also documented in the Report.
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
I disagree. People are being pushed to the breaking point, and the extremists are the first to start fighting back because they are extremists. Thousands die a year, including far too many innocent children, from gang violence, and general crime, and no one blinks an eye. If you ask me, that is the real racism. No one seems to care about poor black people in gang ridden cities, they focus on a couple of nutty white guys. None of the 'woke folk' cared about the border crisis until they saw an opportunity to start a totally false 'racism narrative', because some overworked border workers were trying to keep crowds of Haitians from getting hurt by their horses.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Oberon1 You disagree because you're an old White male. Now let's pretend Trump is Obama. Your tune changes quickly. I don't believe you. 🙂
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Oberon1 Thats somewhat true. But that's the Black Community's responsibility. You should worry about your own children who are overdosing daily on opioids and fetanyl daily. And doing meth.
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@Zonuss You are mistaken. I disagree because of a real odd situation that involves thousands of black people being killed by black people every year and when a .00000000002% are killed by police or a couple of white idiots, the country goes nuts. There is an obvious problem there, and it is because of the real racists who don't shed a tear for innocent children, but burn their own businesses down over some chronic criminal who got himself shot by police. The scale is unbalanced. When you consider the fact that the killers represent around 6% of the population of the United States, the scale becomes really unbalanced. It is time to wake up and smell the cordite!
Adogslife · 61-69, M
LA, Chicago, Detroit? Which of the many larger cities in the US this summer, where murder has escalated, primarily due to gang violence, is Trump responsible for?
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@Zonuss You're being silly in your naïve denial at this point. It is like you are trying to deny that the sky is blue, or that fire is hot. Go ahead with your bad self! Knock yourself out! It is what it is. 👍
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Oberon1 Says the guy who thinks the 2020 Election was stolen and that Antifa caused the Insurrection of January 6th. 😂
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Zonuss Says the guy who says the 2016 election was stolen, and that the riot on Jan.9 was an insurrection
Carazaa · F
Absolutely, Christian Nationalists think it's ok to hate and kill sinners, but forget Jesus verse

"Do not judge or you will be judged" "
Carazaa · F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

I believe you misuderstood Jesus verse


John 8:7
“let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
@Carazaa I misunderstand nothing. You pick and choose whatever verses fit your motives at any given point.
Carazaa · F
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
He made things a bit worse and antagonized some situations. But he's not to blame either. He's but one facet of many social and cultural problems we have bubbling under the surface of civilization. These issues were already there, he just made them feel safer to come out.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@Zonuss I think you’ll find most of them were in democrat run cities
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@ididntknow They are in both red and blue states.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@ididntknow 7 out of the top 10 US states with the highest crime rates are red states..🙂
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
No you're just a Trump hater
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@TheRascallyOne I couldn't even begin to touch Trump's and the Cultists' number of lies. Your own meme says he is filled with the power of haters. In this case, you are correct. The Haters are his supporters. They hate non-whites.
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@windinhishair
i bet this picture pisses you off
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@TheRascallyOne No it doesn't, considering the source. We know racist white supremacists are the greatest domestic threat right now. Even Trump's FBI concluded that in their 2020 report on violence.
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
That is ridiculous! These mentally deranged people have been doing this for years regardless of who was president. You're really letting your bias show!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@fanuc2013 It's not ridiculous when your president incites riots and arouses hate. I don't hear you. 🙂
dommagic · M
Imo he’s proven he’s not above calling people to commit violent acts, so even if it were indirectly I’d say yes
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@dommagic I totally agree with you.
kentex35 · 100+, M
I agree. I think he should be barred from holding office again. He doesn't care about America. He made friends with the leaders of our enemies and shunned our allies. I think he was jealous of Kim Jung IL and how he has power for life. Putin too evidently. Imo
Oster1 · M
@kentex35 🤔
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@kentex35 what are you talking about, you silly man
kentex35 · 100+, M
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
What about the shootings in Texas had anything to do with white nationalism? If we blame Trump for the one in Buffalo, can we blame the one in CA in 2015 on Obama? After all, those shooters were Muslims.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
You are asking ME for an intelligent response and yet YOU are an Obama toady?
THAT is a classic!!! 😆
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@ProfessorPlum77 Uh actually I'm not. I'm just me. So you failed to give an intelligent response. I knew you're weren't capable. What else is new. 😊
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@Zonuss Goodbye.
Here’s a stunner. These guns/ weapons confiscated if anybody’s fault, lies at the feet of liberals, progressives, social progressives and the Democratic Party and people like Alvin Bragg, DA for Manhattan along with buffoons like Andrew Cuomo and those in the NY state legislature who pushed for no bail laws.
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@soar2newhighs Trump is not personally responsible but he most definitely stands behind the toxic and violent right wing gun culture that is directly responsible for this and gives it credibility right to the top.

Trump and his supporters are people like Dylan Roof. And I am sorry you are triggered by the fact that white nationalists are by far the greatest terror threat to Americans and has been since the 80s.
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow According to some of our faulty and lame politicians, the greatest threat we face is CLIMATE CHANGE! It’s not gun violence whether you believe it’s all right wing pushed, or not.
I am a Trump
Supporter, so does that mean I believe in shooting up a church of black church goers?
You paint with a broad brush. Your picture says nothing.
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FurryFace · 61-69, M
why is Trump still at the forefront ?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@ididntknow No, Yes, No..😷
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@whowasthatmaskedman So, what’s so good about being a globalist
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@ididntknow Globalism made America great. International Trade and finance and using the $US to enhance Americas status, drawing talented people from all over the world turned America into a world leading Super power. Of course, people got selfish and greedy and ruined it all. Now America sponges off the world to the tune of over a $1 Trillion a year that they can never pay back, and would collapse on a year if other countries stopped taking your IOUs. But its still better than a lot of places.. Like Sri Lanka😷
JonathanC · 61-69, M
He is a major contributing factor.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@JonathanC Exactly.
kentex35 · 100+, M
He is probably the most divisive president. Of all time. He told those people to do that and he was going to be right there with them. Shit he lagged back then went back to the WH and watched it on TV laughing
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 If I go to the voting booth and I vote. Then I want my vote to be counted like everyone else Sporter. And after it was counted, I want them to add it up so I can see the result. And whoever wins, wins. And then I go on with my life, I'm not going to demand to change the results becuse I have lost. That's kinda ridiculous. I can live with that descision. Clearly, a lot of people are struggling over there right now. And a lot of that has to do because Donald Trump keeps telling the same lie and can't just accept his defeat.

I found it kinda damning that I've heared a republican senator, pleading to the president during the events in the capitol building. That Trump should make it stop, he's the only person that can make it stop (man, power that the guy has huh), but that he in the same short segment says that apperently senators knew that it was over, but they had to uphold the charade. And that someone working inside the whitehouse as Trumps communicationdirector (Alyssa Farah), actually tells the same thing. That they knew it was over, they lost the election, but they had to keep the people rallied up.

Because they know, they are dealing with a bunch of lemmings Sporter. When they say that they have to keep the charade up, it's because people like you fall for it.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 The mostest perfectest elektion in the history of elektions!!!
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This is what I think in 2024
@DonaldTrumpet Now you got it. 👌
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@thedarkside yes, God sent him when he ran out of plagues!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Harriet03 Nor did teddy kennedy!
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
There is someone who should have spent his life in prison. Who is responsible that he did not?@sunsporter1649
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
In addition anything allegedly positive about that murderer should be stricken from recorded history inasmuch as it’s a lie built on a lie. @sunsporter1649
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
@chockaholic2020 Wow that's all. You have lost your edge. 😂😂
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dakotaviper · 56-60, M
Not One Bit.

When it became the norm for everyone to be special, then that is when this stuff started.

Before 2000, Graduations were after High School and when you finished some sort of Higher Education. Today you have graduations every year from Pre-School on up.

Participation Trophies. Everybody's a Winner!
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@dakotaviper many universities now have segregated graduation ceremonies and segregated student housing.
Separate is never equal but segregation is what some people want I guess .
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@dakotaviper What. Can you like answer the question in a normal manner. 🙂
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@Zonuss I keep forgetting that it's extremely hard for people like you to understand 'common sense'. I'll try to dumb down my answers for you from now on.
dale74 · M
First of all if that was the case the people that are doing these mass shootings would be Trump supporters but they're not. Second of all how come when there's a gun crime it's the guns fault more people get stabbed in the United States every year they have been forever we don't blame the knife. More people die in car accidents we don't blame the car there are 300 million guns in this country which is actually more than there are cars. If guns were the problem then nobody would be alive. The problem is accountability and respect for life. Modern youth and I would say the average person under 35 does not respect life. And until we have a change in the family structure where people place life I love one another personal accomplishment you're not going to have a change. I hate to tell you this but not everybody deserves a trophy sometimes people shit stinks it's true not everybody should own a gun but that's when you have to have family and friends that step forward and discourage them from ever getting one.
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
@chockaholic2020 Inciting a riot is illegal. It's actually in the Constitution. Wow. How about that. ☺️
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
@chockaholic2020 You're wrong. They were held accountable. That's why they were arrested. But you also have to follow the Constitution. Simple. 🙂
Zonuss · 41-45, M
I think we can all agree to this. We as a nation cannot afford to have Donald Trump as president of the US ever again. Especially with what is going on in today's world. And there will be more disturbing events to take place very soon..And believe me Trump will be the last person you will want to hear from or see. Mark these words. 🙂🇺🇲
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@Zonuss what’s the lie
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@ididntknow Everything you say.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@Zonuss put your dummy back in, bed byes time
redredred · M

White nationalists?
@redredred No, it is a meme that is also conveniently so tiny nobody could even try to fact check who is in the picture.
@redredred Also it is from a single year. Even if it is accurate anyone can take 1 year out of 50 and find one that fits a narrative that is disproven by the whole.
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Valerian · 100+, M
So? Donald Trump is influencing the continual spate of shootings in Detroit and Los Angeles??!!
You're telling us that the sudden rise of drive-by shootings / murders in my City and Many others is a devious plot by the Right Wing Wackado segment under orders from Who?

Grasp at Straws!

Did you Consider the "Lovely 🤗" Job our Doddering 👴🏻Senile Dementia Patient/President has done with the Pandemic, the Failing Economy, Inflation, the Shortages of Product, the Labor Situation, the Free Money Encouraging Laziness, the Fact that No One, especially the Freaking President of the United States, knows what's Going On Now and What Happens Next!!!! Maybe, probably all this turmoil has the Murder Rate Ever Rising?

The Dumbasses with Guns seem to be Affected by BIDEN Too!
Oberon1 · 61-69, M
@Valerian Under Biden's brilliant administration, Robbers don't need guns at all. They are welcome to just walk in and take the stuff and walk out with no consequences! It's just the people who get their rocks off from killing who need guns to commit crimes. Of course it is the people who are trying to protect themselves and their families that these lunatics are going after!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Valerian If Obama said the things Trump said while he was President. You wouldn't like it at all. Youre a joke. 🙂
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
indirectly, no doubt. The biggest problem is the number of guns and ammunition, that is more to blame on the NRA. I was an NRA life member. The goal when I joined was safety! Second was marksmanship, not "defense" of your home or allegedly, your home land.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@samueltyler2 The original NRA was a great organization with a needed safety focus. Now it is just an extension of the Republican gun fetish culture.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@windinhishair yes indeed!
Snuffy1957 · 61-69, M
No he's NOT...
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Snuffy1957 Because 🤔
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
The dems recently and throughout history have said the same and worse with impunity. @Zonuss
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@jackjjackson More dumb talk. 🙂
Jeffrey53 · 51-55, M
No, there always been shootings can’t blame one president and not the others
Jeffrey53 · 51-55, M
@Zonuss ok if you say so.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Jeffrey53 It is so. But you would only defend a loser because you yourself are a loser. And number two do not have the mental capacity to be logical about this discussion at all. 🙂
Jeffrey53 · 51-55, M
@Zonuss yeah I’m a loser and I don’t have a mental capacity to discuss. Not everyone is smart as you. Not everyone has the same opinion as you. I’m not even defending him. Every president had mass shootings during their presidency it’s the way is.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
I don’t tie it directly back to Trump at all. However, I do see the correlation you’re drawing and don’t disagree altogether.

If Trump could EVER just stfu and just run the country, all would be much better. But, he’d need to really get some honest help with racism. That’s one of the categories that he’s just simply lost in. Another would be his patronizing of the right wing. That’ll never work. He’s got to become more centrist.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 And there in lies the conundrum
@sunsporter1649 Clueless as always. But of course you think magic orange man will save the world from everything.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@Adogslife you don’t understand what’s going on at all do you
BlueRain · 51-55, F
You are really trying to stir the pot.
BlueRain · 51-55, F
ohh this is an old post
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@BlueRain I know. I cannot control these people. 🤭
BlueRain · 51-55, F
@Zonuss I know you can’t. To comment years later. Lol
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
People are to blame for following any rhetoric , especially to extremes,the man is to blame from the rhetoric he spews.
If not everyone is a mindless puppet and how could you hold them accountable for anything ?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Justmeraeagain Thank you.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@TwistedSister Since you cannot produce the evidence, your claims are the same as always--utter bullshit. You have no data. None.
@TwistedSister

I hate to bust your bubble, sugar tits, but you are wrong.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/public-mass-shootings-database-amasses-details-half-century-us-mass-shootings#mass-shooting-demographics

Mass Shooting Demographics
"Of the 172 individuals who engaged in public mass shootings covered in the database, 97.7% were male. Ages ranged from 11 to 70, with a mean age of 34.1. Those shooting were 52.3% White, 20.9% Black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% Middle Eastern, and 1.8% Native American.

Most individuals who perpetrated mass shootings had a prior criminal record (64.5%) and a history of violence (62.8%), including domestic violence (27.9%). And 28.5% had a military background. Most died on the scene of the public mass shooting, with 38.4% dying by their own hand and 20.3% killed by law enforcement officers."

If you have more current analysis feel free to educate us. If not, we will assume you lack the intellect to navigate Google and are merely regurgitating Fox News propaganda. As for being lazy, looks like YOU win the prize. Here's a cookie 🍪
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