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Do u believe Donald Trump is to blame for the recent shootings in the US ? 馃

As it stands today. It appears that Trump has emboldened these White Nationalists to commit these acts of terror. The recent events in our world today says everything. You saw the shootings in Texas and Ohio. White Nationalism, or nationalism from any ethnic group or race is the problem here. If we do not call it for what it is this tragedy will never end. Something needs to be done. But these racist comments from Trump must end. What do you think. 馃槓
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Adstar56-60, M
Nationalism is the love for ones nation.. That being the country that one lives in..

The interpretation that nationalism is the love for ones own race to the exclusion of all others is not accurate.. It is a globalist propaganda point that has been repeated so often people are starting to think that their changed definition of Nationalism is what nationalism really is..
Tastyfrzz61-69, M
@Adstar Racism combined with nationalism combined with the desire for a theocracy be sounds dangerous. Pretty soon they'd be filtering out people based on eye color and shoe size.
Adstar56-60, M
@Tastyfrzz Nationalism is NOT the same thing as Racism or the desire for a theocracy..

Nationalism is the love for ones country..
Zonuss41-45, M
@Adstar And your point is?
Adstar56-60, M
@Zonuss I stated my point very clearly.. Nationalism is not Racism.. Nationalism is the love for ones country.. It is not anything to do with any idea of racial superiority..

When people are being brain washed and lied to that people who love their country are racist.. It is a lie and a very unjust accusation against millions of people..
Zonuss41-45, M
@Adstar Im talking about Trump. And how he throws flames on the fire. And starts riots. And causes shooters to kill. 馃檪
Adstar56-60, M
@Zonuss And i am opposing your blending the term nationalist to be one and the same as racism..
Graylight51-55, F
@Adstar Patriotism is love for one's country.

What you leave off in the definition of nationalism is that such obligations to nation [i]outweigh other individual or group interests.[/i] (https://www.britannica.com/topic/nationalism)

Further: "identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially [i]to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.[/i]. Hitler was a nationalist. Chiang Kai-shek was a nationalist. Mao Zedong was a nationalist. Trump is a nationalist.
Zonuss41-45, M
@Adstar That definition of nationalism has been perverted and tainted by hate groups. You're not gonna change anybody's mind about that word. This is the real world. Not Disney. 馃檪
Valerian100+, M
@Graylight @Tastyfrzz Seriously!!?? You believe That could happen? Get serious! The true level of Racism is much lower than most people assume!

It's like freaking out about Gay Pride Day thinking:
OMFG!!! EVERYONE WILL BE FORCED TO BE HOMOSEXUALS!!
Graylight51-55, F
@Valerian
What are you on about? Better yet, what are you on?
ididntknow51-55, M
@Zonuss And BLM and ANTIFA don鈥檛 ?
Adstar56-60, M
@Graylight Yes putting the interests of the fellow citizens of ones nation before other nations is nationalism.. But again that does not mean a nationalist is a racist.. An Asian American nationalist will put the interests of his white, black, Hispanic, native and fellow Asian Americans over and above the same races and cultures of similar from Canada or Mexico..

The linking of Nationalism to racism is just globalist / internationalist lying propaganda..
Adstar56-60, M
@Zonuss [quote]@Adstar That definition of nationalism has been perverted and tainted by hate groups. You're not gonna change anybody's mind about that word. This is the real world. Not Disney[/quote]

Reasonable thinking people can be won over, especially when they find out they have been lied to by their media and education institutions.. Yes globalist / internationalists brainwashed ideologues will never accept anything other then their indoctrinators have told them.. I am not here for those types of people they don't have the capacity for independent thought..
Zonuss41-45, M
@ididntknow @Valerian No. Racism is worldwide. Its a much bigger problem than you think it is.
Zonuss41-45, M
@ididntknow Nobody cares about Antifa or Black Lives Matter. 馃槀
Zonuss41-45, M
@Adstar White Nationalism is racism. Black Nationalism is racism. See. Its not that hard to figure out.
Adstar56-60, M
@Zonuss If you are a white racist you do not identify with a nation.. You identify with your race.. So a white racist in Finland would feel more kinship/ loyalty with a white person no matter what nation they where living in more then their Finnish African or Asian neighbors ..

Likewise a black racist in America cannot be a nationalist because they will feel more loyalty / kinship to an African living in Nigeria then they will feel towards their American Latino neighbor..
Zonuss41-45, M
@Adstar Racism exists. Period. 馃檪
Adstar56-60, M
@Zonuss Yes racism exists. Period 馃憤 I fully agree.. But it is not nationalism 馃槈
Zonuss41-45, M
@Adstar You're not gonna change anyone's mind here. You're wasting your time. 馃檪
Adstar56-60, M
@Zonuss I will let each individuel make up their own minds.. I don't claim to know the minds of all people.. That's something God knows not humans like me and YOU Zonuss..
Zonuss41-45, M
@Adstar You're not gonna find many who follow your ideology here. Are you a racist troll looking for attention. There are a few of those here. 馃檪
Adstar56-60, M
@Zonuss Ahhh losing the debate and so you decide to go rogue by attacking the other persons character in a vain effort to somehow undermine their point by establishing a negative association with the person who holds it..

Yep you know how the globalist / internationalist anti nation propaganda works.. Accuse anyone who loves their country to be a racist.. You are exactly the same as a globalist Zonuss..

There are a few too many Lieing mud throwers here. 馃檪
Zonuss41-45, M
@Adstar False. I asked are you a racist troll. I did not directly said you were. Assumptionist ideologue. Loving your country does not mean you should call out other ethnic groups other than your own while being President. It doesn't involve taunting or creating race riots either. That's a violation nog the Constitution. Apparently you don't uphold the values and ideas of a true Nationalist if you support Donald Trump. Because people died on January 6.
Adstar56-60, M
@Zonuss Thats like me out of the blue asking you how often you beat your wife or how often you molest your children.. and then when you become rightfully offended and protest knowing full well my questions where an open attack. I come back with a

""false. I only asked a question if you where a wife beating child molestor. I never accused you of anything""

Don't give me that total BS and then turn around and claim it was only a question .. Do you think anyone reading on with an ounce of intellegence believes you where just asking an innocent question?