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To you, is abortion an option in case of an unwanted accidental pregnancy?

better to terminate a pregnancy then ruining multiple lives over it.

if you force people to get a kid you better make sure the kid and the mother are taken proper care of
@sladejr how about a society taking care of its people....so they have the basic modern resources and safety to bring up a child ?

What a novel idea
sladejr · 56-60, M
@OogieBoogie so there's not enough welfare and freebies already?

You are trying to extort society for a free ride using a baby's life. That is beyond ghastly
@sladejr No.... there isnt enough.
Not for housing,
decent wages,
an actual functioning health system,
education
Disabilty support
....let alone safe streets for kids to grow up in.

Are you telling me that a society has no obligation to fulfil basic humanitarian rights ?
A woman having an abortion isn’t as easy of a decision as people think sometimes. Violent crimes against them, a dying child or unviable in utero, risk of their life, poverty, abusive partner. Many things factor into the decision and none of them are easy. A woman owns her body and has the right to make the choice as to what to do with it. People still believe a woman magically becomes pregnant on her own and decisions must be made for her. They continue to blame a woman for a decision that would never be questioned if a man had to make it.
@NativePortlander1970 Again, walk in a woman’s shoes before you spout statistics.

We will not agree on this.
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CestManan · 46-50, F
@Pinkstarburst
Women are also losing their rights to decide.

A lot of groups are losing their rights. Of course when it is immigrants, no one seems to care. Or LGBT, it's okay because lawmakers are "protecting the children". Maybe the same reason they want to outlaw abortion. "The powers" already know they can revoke rights in a heartbeat.

Yeah there are rare cases when pregnancy was involuntary OR it would result in mortality.
But we all know that most abortions happen (at least in the free world) because someone was careless in the bedroom.

My opinion on abortion - People should be allowed to have them if they want. It is them who have to live with their choice. We all know it is wrong to abort. Some people are just better at BS'ing themselves.
Unless I’m the one who’s pregnant, I don’t consider it any of my business. I think it has to be the pregnant woman’s choice.
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Torsten · 36-40, M
no. There is no such thing as a accidental pregnancy. Its being completely careless and not having safe sex and later acting as though it was some big shock you can get pregnant while having unsafe sex.

People need to handle their responsibility and not kill it because its inconvenient for them
Torsten · 36-40, M
@nedkelly thats horrible. I am sorry to hear that mate
nedkelly · 61-69, M
@Torsten thank you
Jenny1234 · 51-55, F
@Torsten what about the millions of men who tell her to deal with it and take off. Still accountable?
Matt85 · 36-40, M
When people say "her body, her choice"
I just think what about the babies body
and what about Dad, brothers and sisters?

I've been personally affected by abortion.
It kicked off my depression when I was about 15.
@Matt85 Please do not bring a fairy tale into this.
@LordShadowfire let's take a deep breath for a moment. The original question was about support for abortions, not laws regarding them or the effects of specific details. @Matt85 made it clear he doesn't take abortions lightly but does not want pregnancies to cause any harm due to bans. That's his answer. He made no comments on whether he supports the bans in their current form and he doesn't have to, because that's beyond the original topic.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@NerdyPotato I didn't hear that. I heard him say he doesn't want to talk about it because it happens in a minority of cases.
BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
Umile · 41-45, F
Unwanted. Rape, Incest, possible diseases.

I get it, but don't agree with.

Accidentally. If you're grown enough to do the deed, then you're grown enough to handle the consequences.

The only one that really loses is the fetus.
@thewindupbirdchronicles Thank you for understanding the point I was trying to make. 🙏🏽
@ABCDEF7 Rape is more than an "unfortunate event"—it an assault by one person against another, with life-altering consequences, both physical and emotional. To imply that those consequences are the woman’s fault is rather insensitive.
ABCDEF7 · M
@bijouxbroussard
Rape is more than an "unfortunate event"—it an assault by one person against another, with life-altering consequences, both physical and emotional.
- I completely agree.


To imply that those consequences are the woman’s fault..
- I never said so or implied like that. If you misunderstood me, please correct yourself.
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
It's also an option for intentional pregnancies. Sometimes things change.
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
A woman's body. Her business
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
@KingofBones1 But nobody ever mentions the father, doesn't he have rights also?
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
@fanuc2013 yes but not to force a woman to bear kids. Find one who's agreeable
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Have never been in that position I can't say one way or another. Not wanting to be a parent is not a reason to have an abortion, you take that risk every single time you have unprotected sex, and unless it's a non-consensual encounter then it wasn't an accident, and responsibility must be taken. Abortion is not a form of birth control.
Its a sad necessary evil.

Women wouldnt need abortions if men were more responsible where they dispensed their sperm.
@sladejr It is isnt it?
Wouldn't you'd think men would be more considerate, and think of the potential life long repercussions 🤷
sladejr · 56-60, M
@OogieBoogie This is beyond morally obtuse. You are trying to blame a 3rd party for someone else killing a baby.

You sound like you'd be a perfect twisted Soros DA
@sladejr 😏😉
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
It's up to the woman and her doctor but I believe the sooner it's done the better.
@CrazyMusicLover Yep, just suck it up with a vacuum like a bug before it gets too big 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@NativePortlander1970 Exactly. Before it takes any recognizable form.
Of course. Nobody has to throw their life away for someone else.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
Accidental intercourse 🤔
Damn, now I feel like I’ve missed out.

I’m not an abortion advocate but 💯 % believe in a woman’s right to freedom of choice.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
Yes, it's not my business.

Absolutely not all the time is it birth control. ESPECIALLY not 2nd and 3rd term.

They make it that far, the baby WAS wanted and clothes and nursery furniture purchased. Life plans made. Family and friends informed. Then something went horribly wrong and all the anti-late-term laws do is complicate an already heart wrenching process for some poor family making the worst choice they never wanted to make.
Mirage · F
"Accidental"?? What does that even mean. We do all know what the ultimate purpose of having sex is, riiight? You know you have an option to do that too, riiight?
Unless you are referring to rape?

It's repulsive to me. What others choose is on them.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Mirage perhaps substituting unintentional is more appropriate. Not all sec is intended to produce a pregnancy. Sex can be the most beautiful, ultimate form of love.

Almost all, I use the almost to prevent arguments, types of contraceptives have a risk of failure. Alternatives mentioned are sort of "cop outs," such as the morning after pill, or such contraceptives like IDs, which both work by preventing a fertilized egg from implanting in a uterus.
Mirage · F
@samueltyler2 I wasn't asking.
It is not for me to judge. I don't have the information to determine how this unwanted accidental pregnancy came to be.

We all know that contraceptives fail, that's why we don't rely on just one method to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
ABCDEF7 · M
Some people also argue of considering themselves as an unwanted piece of life, and want that the suicide option be made legally & morally acceptable. After deciding that we can move to bit complex issue of governing some other life within yourself.
Fukfacewillie · 51-55, M
People who fetishize the fetus are moral abominations.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
nedkelly · 61-69, M
No, I can understand why ladies want an abortion especially if she has been raped, or the baby will be severely disabled and will only live for a couple of days
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
I don't see abortions as an ethical problem but I'm never getting pregnant so not my call
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@CountScrofula which birth control pill are you on?
Julien · 36-40, M
Of course , but my opinion doesn’t really matter in this case
Ontheroad · M
A great option.
Really · 80-89, M
'Abortion' is an abstraction unless you provide complete details of a specific, actual case.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
For me personally , yes . For everyone else, no.
(JK) it’s a yes .
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Who is paying for it
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
It's an option, but one that should be weighed very seriously against the alternatives.
Workerbee · 31-35, M
Should be up to the woman.
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