To you, is abortion an option in case of an unwanted accidental pregnancy?

@SW-User That's the problem. Not all know that, unfortunately. There are some terribly uneducated people out there, whether due to religion or other reasons.

@SW-User if you use protection and that fails, it is accidental though. And raising a child is a major responsibility with high costs in money, time and energy. Not everyone is capable of that, or even the pregnancy and delivery itself.

@CrazyMusicLover How many of these women are getting abortions? Who doesn't know that sex can result in pregnancy? It is its natural consequence. Most peoples and most cultures know this, and this knowledge is conveyed to girls and young women. When I started my period, my mother and my grandmother told me. My grandmother was very honest about it.

@NerdyPotato Do you think it is common for contraception to fail? It isn't when used correctly. Why do you think raising a child is expensive?

"Not capable" does not mean "doesn't want."

@SW-User And what about children??? You specify men and women, but there's no mention of children who get raped and possibly don't even know about sex and contraception.

You also don't think of adults who are raped and conceive, either. Not every child is the product of a loving relationship.

There are also men out there who tamper with condoms or slyly remove them to impregnate women and women who lie about being on birth control to trap men.

@HootyTheNightOwl I have been raped. If I had become pregnant, I would not have aborted my child, even at that young age. I could be raped again, and I would never abort my child. It is not their fault, and they are still your precious baby. Someone dispensing with your consent and using you for their pleasure is not reason to murder your baby. Loving relationships are not a given, but the love you have for your child, who is innocent, should be.

"There are also men out there who tamper with condoms or slyly remove them to impregnate women and women who lie about being on birth control to trap men."

Your excuses only get more elaborate and unlikely. Why should the baby lose its life? Have you considered that they can be placed for adoption or given to someone who will want them?

@SW-User Not everyone could carry a baby to term after being raped... and sometimes, those that do struggle with the reminder.

You can call "my excuses elaborate and unlikely" as much as you want, at the end of the day, I know what I have witnessed in my life regardless of if you want to face up to the fact that it happens or not. I've seen a man brag about the fact that he tampered with condoms because his wife didn't want yet another child.

Have you considered the number of children already growing up in children's homes and foster homes that never find a loving family??? Who wants those children??? They go around in the system until they are kicked out with no skills to survive at the age of 18.

@SW-User God. Another one of you people.

I'm fully convinced every account presenting itself as female, putting forth іdіotic arguments like this is actually a man.

@LordShadowfire Do you think I'm more of a man than you?

@LordShadowfire What you think doesn't matter

@SW-User it's not extremely common, but it happens in about 1 of 100 cases so not that uncommon either.

I haven't seen anyone argue that those are synonymous, but not being capable of carrying a baby or raising one is a good reason not to do so.

That's great. That doesn't mean everyone else should continue their pregnancy too, though. The question is whether abortion should be an option, not whether everyone should get one.

@NerdyPotato If it fails, why do you assume the woman will not want to keep her baby? Many women use contraception, and they would still not abort their child if it fails them or if they were not using it as they should.

Not being capable is a medical issue, with the cause being natural. When women lose their baby, it is a miscarriage. She may be advised to have a termination for medical reasons, but this too is rare, and it hurts the woman very deeply. These are women who want their babies and would carry them and give birth to them if they could. Are they choosing abortion or is their baby dying from a defect, a problem with her body, a natural cause? She is also suffering from a natural cause if she is having a termination to save her life. This is not aborting your child due to inconvenience or you not wanting it.

"The question is whether abortion should be an option, not whether everyone should get one."

"An option" implies that it is a good or acceptable decision for women to make. Abortion is taking a pill and expelling the embryo, which is a tiny baby, from your body. Abortions later than this are having the fetus, your little baby, dissected while still inside you and then thrown in the trash or used for medical research, like its life and its body are nothing. We have no right to do this. It is not her body and not her life.

@SW-User I didn't assume no woman wants to keep her baby, but it's a simple fact that some don't, for various reasons that aren't limited to inconvenience. You're the one making every abortion about simply not wanting a child, not me.

"An option" does not imply it's a good or easy decision either. That's your interpretation, not mine. It's a difficult decision with a big impact on the mother too, but in some situations it's less bad than the impact of going through with the pregnancy.

And by saying it's not her body and not her life, you're ignoring the impact of a pregnancy and raising a child on a parent. It does change the body and life of the mother significantly, and she isn't obligated to go through that for anyone else.

It's similar to how you can't be prosecuted for not jumping in the water to save someone who is drowning. It's admirable to do so, but you're not obligated to.

@SW-User I am so very sorry You went through such a heinous violation :(

@NerdyPotato If not a natural cause, isn't it always her ending her child's life for selfish reasons? That is not what you do when you want your baby.

"It's a difficult decision with a big impact on the mother too, but in some situations it's less bad than the impact of going through with the pregnancy."

In what situations? You support abortion in all cases. If that is what the woman wants, it is acceptable to you, regardless of the reason.

With regard to her body and life, the first consideration is very superficial and not true of all women. This is not my experience. Are we supposed to avoid change for all our lives? Children bring love and joy to us.

"It's similar to how you can't be prosecuted for not jumping in the water to save someone who is drowning. It's admirable to do so, but you're not obligated to."

It isn't similar, and I have not mentioned the law. She chose to have sex, knowing she can get pregnant if not using contraception. Pregnancy means there is another body to consider, and that is the child's body.

@SW-User I never said that because it's not true.

@NerdyPotato That's what these people do. We know this.

@SW-User

@LordShadowfire Do you have anything interesting to say?

@SW-User Oh, dude, I've got plenty of interesting stuff to say, bro. It's you who are being boring.

@LordShadowfire Who are, or who is? There is only one of me...or is there?

@SW-User Okay, good question. Grammatically speaking, when I refer to you, that's second person. That requires the word are. If I were to say, "It's you who is", that would technically be the same thing as saying "You is".