emiliya · 22-25, F
Every democracy has to filter out that which is bad for their nation.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@emiliya I agree. So when are you leaving?
KateATX · 41-45, F
If they entered the country illegally they have committed a crime. If they are going to a courthouse to appear before a judge that means they have committed a crime since they’ve been here illegally. So yes I wholeheartedly approve of this tactic.
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KateATX · 41-45, F
@HootyTheNightOwl I said no need for any further discussion with you. And I will ensure there is no more right now.
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
They're not arresting them before they go to court they are arresting them after they leave court I have seen the news footage and it is shameful that a New York City controller tried to obstruct Justice he should be thrown in jail as well. If you are not here legally and you have never applied for citizenship you are breaking the law and that is it
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KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
@JSul3 doesn't matter if they don't have to obey the laws and neither do any of us and it should be a felony they should not be entitled to any benefits until they have been adjudicated to be here legally. It's all there is to it
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
@sunsporter1649 exactly let them do their waiting. In their home country and then once they get approved they can come here
emiliya · 22-25, F
What does CorvusBlackthorne AKA LordShadowfire want United States to do? Americans voted for deportation. Does he want to live in a country with laws or not?
Many more millions will be able to enter US if they change the immigration laws. The migrants enter US illegally as they know they do not meet the criteria; criteria that includes petitioning from relatives in US and allows for those fleeing persecution.
Those who are protesting are infiltrators and traitors.
Many more millions will be able to enter US if they change the immigration laws. The migrants enter US illegally as they know they do not meet the criteria; criteria that includes petitioning from relatives in US and allows for those fleeing persecution.
Those who are protesting are infiltrators and traitors.
bijouxbroussard · F
@emiliya
Assuming that’s true, wouldn’t that nullify the so-called "rule of law" in the U.S. ?
Which is my point—either we’re a country of laws or we’re not.
By deciding some laws are "nonsense" and don’t have to be observed, the MAGAs are no different than people coming here "illegally". Incidentally, the focus on our southern border, while Europeans are simply choosing to overstay their work visas, is yet another issue.
So to answer your original question, no you don’t have to "pretend to be Mexican". If you get a regular visa and ignore its end date, as a white immigrant you should be just fine. 🤨
Felons can become president and run United States.
Assuming that’s true, wouldn’t that nullify the so-called "rule of law" in the U.S. ?
Which is my point—either we’re a country of laws or we’re not.
By deciding some laws are "nonsense" and don’t have to be observed, the MAGAs are no different than people coming here "illegally". Incidentally, the focus on our southern border, while Europeans are simply choosing to overstay their work visas, is yet another issue.
So to answer your original question, no you don’t have to "pretend to be Mexican". If you get a regular visa and ignore its end date, as a white immigrant you should be just fine. 🤨
emiliya · 22-25, F
@bijouxbroussard I am a Jew from southern Russia who has a Hebrew surname. SOI or DOI are acronyms of what it would translate to in English. Do not assume what I look like.
“Assuming that’s true, wouldn’t that nullify the so-called "rule of law" in the U.S. ?”
It seems you need to familiarize yourself with the laws of your country.
“Assuming that’s true, wouldn’t that nullify the so-called "rule of law" in the U.S. ?”
It seems you need to familiarize yourself with the laws of your country.
bijouxbroussard · F
@emiliya One thing I do know about my country, is that Jewish people, especially Ashkenazi, Sephardic or Mizrahi are classified as Caucasian (that’s "white") here. I’m not saying there isn’t antisemitism, but unless they’re Beta Israel, they’re considered white. It is what it is.
And the closest we came to having an actual felon in the White House was Nixon, who had the grace to resign when it looked like he might face charges.
Then he was pardoned by his successor, etc. I remember when it was news. So this business with Trump is new territory. And because I live here, I can tell you for certain, Trump is receiving treatment that other presidents in his place would not have.
And the closest we came to having an actual felon in the White House was Nixon, who had the grace to resign when it looked like he might face charges.
Then he was pardoned by his successor, etc. I remember when it was news. So this business with Trump is new territory. And because I live here, I can tell you for certain, Trump is receiving treatment that other presidents in his place would not have.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
The whole point of a free country is everyone inside the borders gets those freedoms.
If they lose their right to defend themselves from charges, you're next.
You USED to have the right to only be apprehended by police who require probable cause or a warrant, and must identify themselves.
Poof. Gone. That right has been taken from you.
If they lose their right to defend themselves from charges, you're next.
You USED to have the right to only be apprehended by police who require probable cause or a warrant, and must identify themselves.
Poof. Gone. That right has been taken from you.
WestonTexan · 18-21, M
No, I do not. But we live in a very vindictive society where wanting people who aren’t like you to suffer is surprisingly common.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@WestonTexan like not being a bleeding heart liberal so you are thrown in jail without proper representation and basic civil rights?
carpediem · 61-69, M
Yes. Sounds like a great idea. "Though the streams are swollen, keep them doggies rolling...Rawhide". Head 'em up and move 'em out.
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smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
Yes I approve.
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
@iamthe99 they are perfectly fine if they are here legally
iamthe99 · M
@smileylovesgaming So why do you approve of ICE arresting people entering the courthouse?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@smileylovesgaming I guess you haven't heard. Everybody is entitled to due process, even if you THINK they are breaking the law. It's called innocent until proven guilty. If you don't believe in that, you can get the hell out of America.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 See... funny how that works.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 And of course you left-wing nut-job marxists properly vetted and vaxxed all those 25,000,000 folks before dumping them all over the country following 8 U.S. Code Chapter 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY to the letter, right?
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@sunsporter1649
So enlighten us with your brilliance
Never again will I cast my pearls before swine.
SinlessOnslaught · M
No. It's law over reality. Paperwork vs life. There are bound to be extrapolations. We are enabling people who join law enforcement to satisfy a power fantasy.
The common American is not racist but we are very ignorant to this manipulation.
The common American is not racist but we are very ignorant to this manipulation.
GerOttman · 61-69, M
It's what's called "collateral damage", sucks but I'd be happy to bring them both coffees and snacks.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 The rights of Americans are also protected by the law. Here we go again... it says "equal protection under the law". But equality just ain't in your dictionairy, because you are white supremacist. There is always a ranking the moment someone isn't white enough.
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CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
I find it disappointing, but not surprising, how many of the usual suspects do not understand that everyone has a right to due process under US law, even immigrants who are not yet citizens.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@sunsporter1649 You have already made it quite clear that you are hateful toward persons of foreign descent. You do not need to keep reiterating it.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@CorvusBlackthorne
February 4, 2024 / 7:00 PM EST / CBS News
Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border
5:04 PM PDT May 14, 2023/ CBS nEWS
Afghan on terrorist watchlist arrested at U.S.-Mexico border crossing in San Diego
Nov. 14, 2023/ NBC News
There were almost 97,000 encounters with Indian migrants in the U.S. over the past year, nearly a fivefold increase from the same period from 2019 to 2020, when there were almost 20,000
February 4, 2024 / 7:00 PM EST / CBS News
Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border
5:04 PM PDT May 14, 2023/ CBS nEWS
Afghan on terrorist watchlist arrested at U.S.-Mexico border crossing in San Diego
Nov. 14, 2023/ NBC News
There were almost 97,000 encounters with Indian migrants in the U.S. over the past year, nearly a fivefold increase from the same period from 2019 to 2020, when there were almost 20,000
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AbbeyRhode · F
Duh, why would I not? If they are here ILLEGALLY, they have already committed a crime, and should be deported. And if they're at the courthouse, it's pretty well guaranteed they have committed additional crimes. They should be grateful to get a free ride home instead of jailed for their crimes.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@AbbeyRhode but i must show a valid ID to enter a federal building
AbbeyRhode · F
@MarineBob Exactly! Honest citizens have to jump through hoops for everything, while invading criminals have everything handed to them. Thank God for a President who is putting a stop to that! :)
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
must be irritating watching all them mail in ballots get deported....
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emiliya · 22-25, F
I am a Russian immigrant and want to live in a Republican state. I cannot be bothered to go through the legal channels. Shall I turn up at the Mexican border? Perhaps I can pretend to be Mexican.
bijouxbroussard · F
@emiliya Do you have access to Google ?
emiliya · 22-25, F
@bijouxbroussard Yes. What is their relationship?
bijouxbroussard · F
@emiliya Hard to say. Sometimes they’re friends, sometimes not. But Trump clearly admires him.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
lolz.. theyre like pokemon.. gotta get em all!
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
Unless their defense is that they didn't cross the border illegally or didn't overstay, then yes I approve
MarineBob · 56-60, M
If I go to court I must pay court fees
ElwoodBlues · M
@MarineBob Have you ever watched a cop show on TV?? Remember the part where they say
Mathews v. Diaz 1976 including citations of prior rulings.
Even one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.
Thank you, SCOTUS for being clear, unambiguous, and leaving zero wiggle room.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you.
Those are due process rights. And everyone within our borders gets the same due process rights. Need to see what SCOTUS has ruled??Mathews v. Diaz 1976 including citations of prior rulings.
There are literally millions of aliens within the jurisdiction of the United States. The Fifth Amendment, as well as the Fourteenth Amendment, protects every one of these persons from deprivation of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. Wong Yang Sung v. McGrath, 339 U. S. 33, 339 U. S. 48-51; Wong Wing v. United States, 163 U. S. 228, 163 U. S. 238; see Russian Fleet v. United States, 282 U. S. 481, 282 U. S. 489. Even one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection. Wong Yang Sung, supra; Wong Wing, supra.
Even one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.
Thank you, SCOTUS for being clear, unambiguous, and leaving zero wiggle room.
thepeculiarpanda · 36-40, M
Absolutely not.
meJess · F
Do you approve of some people breaking the law and not facing consequences whilst others have to accept the law?
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@meJess No, I approve of people getting their day in court and actual justice, not the ICEstapo just grabbing people and putting them into jails with NO due process.
bijouxbroussard · F
@meJess Clearly, a lot of people here do.
That’s why a convicted criminal was allowed to continue running for president, after all. That’s why those people had no problem voting for him. 😳
That’s why a convicted criminal was allowed to continue running for president, after all. That’s why those people had no problem voting for him. 😳
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
People who don’t approve are probably ok with Guantanamo Bay.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@MrBrownstone I don't see what that has to do with anything. But for the record, I don't approve of either.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@LordShadowfire A red herring from @MrBrownstone? Quel choc.
NerdyPotato · M
Anyone supporting this can drop the act that they're fine with legal immigration.
NerdyPotato · M
@kodiac do I really need to pull out to dictionary to explain what a person is? 🙄 And nice deflection on your part. Every accusation... What do you not understand about crossing the border legally on a temporary visum to apply for citizenship?
kodiac · 22-25, M
@NerdyPotato if you did it that way you wouldn't be deported. You claim they get no day in court ,also are you seriously saying 13 million people are here on a temporary visa? The people getting arrested at the court house are there because they committed crimes after they came here illegally. 13 million hell that's probably as many as your entire country. Do you have 13 million immigrants in your country.
NerdyPotato · M
@kodiac no, I'm not saying everyone here is on a temporary visum, nor that there are no people going to court who don't have the right paperwork to stay. The only thing I'm saying is that it is important to determine who is and who isn't illegal before deporting people. That is what those court appointments are for and what due process means. And by arresting and deporting people before their appointment and due process, that determination isn't awaited and people who do everything legally are deported together with the ones who don't.
EarthGirl · 18-21, F
Sounds sneaky, but probably works.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
Btw rights apply only to legal citizens
MethDozer · M
@GuidanceCounselor No they don't dummy
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@MethDozer illegals will get their hearing but they should wait outside the US for it.
tobynshorty · 51-55, F
Hell no I don’t approve!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@tobynshorty ✊
YoMomma · 41-45
Defend themselves from what? I suppose you're an anti trump democrat 🙄
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Hell, no!
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bookerdana · M
They came to take away the jews..but I was not a jew
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bijouxbroussard · F
No, it’s fascism, pure and simple.
And only fascists would support it. 🥺
And only fascists would support it. 🥺
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@bijouxbroussard I am deeply disappointed at the number of fascists on this website alone.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@CorvusBlackthorne That's the cause of 90% of my blocks here.
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MethDozer · M
Absolutely not. It's a blemish on our society
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues 8 U.S.C. § 1325
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GuidanceCounselor You should differentiate between trying to enter and having already entered.
Once I'm on american soil, once I get past the border, the Constitution applies... due process applies
Once I'm on american soil, once I get past the border, the Constitution applies... due process applies
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@GuidanceCounselor It's funny that you keep repeating: "8 U.S.C. § 1325", when that leades you to title 18. You know... where they talk about the entire process that the governement needs to follow to deal with these things. Including the rights to a judicial process. Because in your system, the executive branch is there to enforce the laws, they can make an entire case against someone that they believe broke the rules. But at the end of the day, the judicial branch has the final judgement. The executive branch is never: judge, jury and executioner. 8 U.S.C. § 1325, is consistent with the constitution and consistent with the cases ElwoodBlues is quoting. The problem is that you don't do any legwork and forgot to look at title 18 that is literally mentioned:
SOURCE: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
Title 18 U.S. Code Part II - Criminal PROCEDURE
SOURCE: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-II
EDIT after being Blocked: Let's hope GuidanceCouncelor finds some professional help, and gets some lessons in comprehending reading. Maybe foreigners will make him feel less insecure in the future.
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
SOURCE: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
Title 18 U.S. Code Part II - Criminal PROCEDURE
SOURCE: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-II
EDIT after being Blocked: Let's hope GuidanceCouncelor finds some professional help, and gets some lessons in comprehending reading. Maybe foreigners will make him feel less insecure in the future.
DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
Liberals are trying hard to be in news anyhow when News of all the continents is taken over by One Single Man whether it's news of Iran, Russia, Israel, China or France.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@DanielsASJ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/22/ice-arrests-immigration-courts
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
Do you approve?
Hell no!
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BrandNewMan · M
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
Yes
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
No.
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