@HootyTheNightOwl I said no need for any further discussion with you. And I will ensure there is no more right now.

@KateATX So....you are not a fan of the rule of law, due process, and the Constitution.

Got it.

@JSul3 very much a fan of it. They are getting what they deserve. You support the lawlessness Biden, Harris and Myorkas allowed at the border.

@JSul3 doesn't matter if they don't have to obey the laws and neither do any of us and it should be a felony they should not be entitled to any benefits until they have been adjudicated to be here legally. It's all there is to it

@sunsporter1649 exactly let them do their waiting. In their home country and then once they get approved they can come here

@CountScrofula

Not all rights are equal:
Illegal immigrants do not have the same rights as citizens, such as the right to vote or hold certain government jobs.

In essence, while the Constitution does not guarantee illegal immigrants the same rights as citizens, it does protect them from arbitrary actions and ensures that they are treated fairly under the law.

The "border search exception" allows for warrantless searches at or near the border, even without probable cause

Immigration officers can also enter a home with the consent of the resident.

immigration officers can also detain someone if they have "reason to believe" the person is likely to abscond (run away) before a warrant can be obtained

ICE officers can use administrative warrants (issued by immigration officials) to arrest individuals suspected of violating immigration laws, and these do not require a judge's signature

THESE AREN'T NEW RULES

@pdockal Yeah I'm referring to the countless examples of people arrested by masked unidentified men who do not show a warrant -nowhere near a border.

On top of that people who are arrested and rapidly deported prior to or during court proceedings.

You're painting a picture of an accountable, legal, orderly process and it's just not the case.

@emiliya One thing I do know about my country, is that Jewish people, especially Ashkenazi, Sephardic or Mizrahi are classified as Caucasian (that’s "white") here. I’m not saying there isn’t antisemitism, but unless they’re Beta Israel, they’re considered white. It is what it is.

And the closest we came to having an actual felon in the White House was Nixon, who had the grace to resign when it looked like he might face charges.

Then he was pardoned by his successor, etc. I remember when it was news. So this business with Trump is new territory. And because I live here, I can tell you for certain, Trump is receiving special benefits that other presidents in his place would not have.

@bijouxbroussard The Arab is also still considered “Caucasian” by US law. It seems most of the Arabs in US want to be considered white. What about the Mexicans and other South Americans who have European blood?

There are some who believe Nixon was framed. The scandal was something of nothing.

“And because I live here, I can tell you for certain, Trump is receiving special benefits that other presidents in his place would not have.”

What is he receiving?

Trump was convicted of a felony, which means he is not above the law. A felon is allowed to run for political office. US Constitution sets only these criteria: “no person shall be a representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty-five years, and been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state in which he shall be chosen.”

It is the way it is.

If you’re convicted but not punished, yes, that pretty much puts you above the law. Just ask any other convicted felons who are sitting in prison.

And nowhere does that quote say a convicted felon can run for president. It doesn’t address that specific possibility at all, perhaps because when the Constitution was written convicted criminals were likely to be imprisoned, if not hanged.

I’m finding this conversation tiresome, and not going to discuss it further. I dislike Trump supporters, who are usually racists. I have neither the time nor energy for that.

@WestonTexan like not being a bleeding heart liberal so you are thrown in jail without proper representation and basic civil rights?

@iamthe99 they are perfectly fine if they are here legally

@smileylovesgaming So why do you approve of ICE arresting people entering the courthouse?

@smileylovesgaming I guess you haven't heard. Everybody is entitled to due process, even if you THINK they are breaking the law. It's called innocent until proven guilty. If you don't believe in that, you can get the hell out of America.

@sunsporter1649 See... funny how that works.

@Kwek00 And of course you left-wing nut-job marxists properly vetted and vaxxed all those 25,000,000 folks before dumping them all over the country following 8 U.S. Code Chapter 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY to the letter, right?

@sunsporter1649 Never again will I cast my pearls before swine.

@sunsporter1649 The rights of Americans are also protected by the law. Here we go again... it says "equal protection under the law". But equality just ain't in your dictionairy, because you are white supremacist. There is always a ranking the moment someone isn't white enough.

@Kwek00

@sunsporter1649 You have already made it quite clear that you are hateful toward persons of foreign descent. You do not need to keep reiterating it.

@CorvusBlackthorne

February 4, 2024 / 7:00 PM EST / CBS News
Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

5:04 PM PDT May 14, 2023/ CBS nEWS
Afghan on terrorist watchlist arrested at U.S.-Mexico border crossing in San Diego

Nov. 14, 2023/ NBC News
There were almost 97,000 encounters with Indian migrants in the U.S. over the past year, nearly a fivefold increase from the same period from 2019 to 2020, when there were almost 20,000

@sunsporter1649

@AbbeyRhode but i must show a valid ID to enter a federal building

@MarineBob Exactly! Honest citizens have to jump through hoops for everything, while invading criminals have everything handed to them. Thank God for a President who is putting a stop to that! :)

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout ikr

@emiliya Do you have access to Google ?

@bijouxbroussard Yes. What is their relationship?

@emiliya Hard to say. Sometimes they’re friends, sometimes not. But Trump clearly admires him.

@ElwoodBlues



Misinformation and rumors concerning U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) presence in neighborhoods conducting enforcement operations continues to be promoted without merit by those with political agendas. Allegations that ICE is violating its sensitive locations policy are completely false.

ICE does not conduct patrols, raids, or sweeps looking for illegal aliens. Individuals and groups making such accusations are doing nothing but fearmongering and in turn, putting the public and our officers at risk. ICE strictly conducts targeted enforcement actions and continues to focus its limited resources first and foremost on those who pose the greatest threat to public safety,” said John Fabbricatore, acting field office director, ICE ERO, Denver. “Our officers are professionals who uphold the law as written by Congress. If anyone has an issue with the law, they need to take it to their Congressional representative and stop directing their frustrations with the law at federal employees.
ICE does not target aliens indiscriminately; the agency conducts investigations and gathers intelligence on specific individuals and targets them for immigration enforcement.
ICE officers are sworn federal law enforcement officers who operate within the confines of the law. Section 287 of the Immigration and Nationality Act provides ICE officers the authority to arrest aliens without a judicial warrant.
In fact, no judge in this country has the authority to issue a warrant for a civil immigration violation. Congress, by statute, vested this authorization solely to supervisory immigration officers.
Local police officers don’t need a warrant when they encounter someone breaking the law in a public space, and the same holds true for ICE officers.
Obstructing or otherwise interfering with an ICE arrest is a crime, and anyone involved may be subject to prosecution under federal law. In addition, encouraging others to interfere or attempt to obstruct an arrest is extremely reckless and places all parties in jeopardy.

@pdockal says That's an excellent title for your post full of unsubstantiated claims!!

I've provided names, places, photos and videos of tRump's national secret police at work. I've provided legal citations from SCOTUS cases affirming that EVERYONE within our US borders has due process rights.

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
What's really happening on the ground is that tRump's national secret police have "detained" US citizens and denied their proof of citizenship!!


You mention "Section 287 of the Immigration and Nationality Act" but you fail to mention the ways in which it is superceded by Ronald Reagan's 1986 asylum laws. When two laws conflict, the newer law takes precedence.

@ElwoodBlues

got from ICE website
but what do you care ?
you just like putting out propaganda & causing lots & lots of trouble

bub bye

@meJess No, I approve of people getting their day in court and actual justice, not the ICEstapo just grabbing people and putting them into jails with NO due process.

@meJess Clearly, a lot of people here do.

That’s why a convicted criminal was allowed to continue running for president, after all. That’s why those people had no problem voting for him. 😳

@kodiac do I really need to pull out to dictionary to explain what a person is? 🙄 And nice deflection on your part. Every accusation... What do you not understand about crossing the border legally on a temporary visum to apply for citizenship?

@NerdyPotato if you did it that way you wouldn't be deported. You claim they get no day in court ,also are you seriously saying 13 million people are here on a temporary visa? The people getting arrested at the court house are there because they committed crimes after they came here illegally. 13 million hell that's probably as many as your entire country. Do you have 13 million immigrants in your country.

@kodiac no, I'm not saying everyone here is on a temporary visum, nor that there are no people going to court who don't have the right paperwork to stay. The only thing I'm saying is that it is important to determine who is and who isn't illegal before deporting people. That is what those court appointments are for and what due process means. And by arresting and deporting people before their appointment and due process, that determination isn't awaited and people who do everything legally are deported together with the ones who don't.

@MrBrownstone I don't see what that has to do with anything. But for the record, I don't approve of either.

@LordShadowfire A red herring from @MrBrownstone? Quel choc.

@emiliya I agree. So when are you leaving?

@GuidanceCounselor No they don't dummy

@MethDozer illegals will get their hearing but they should wait outside the US for it.

@tobynshorty ✊

@bijouxbroussard I am deeply disappointed at the number of fascists on this website alone.

@CorvusBlackthorne That's the cause of 90% of my blocks here.

@ChipmunkErnie

Same - this post is a gold mine of such types.
Block
Block
Block etc 😁

@ElwoodBlues 8 U.S.C. § 1325

@GuidanceCounselor You should differentiate between trying to enter and having already entered.

Once I'm on american soil, once I get past the border, the Constitution applies... due process applies

@GuidanceCounselor It's funny that you keep repeating: "8 U.S.C. § 1325", when that leades you to title 18. You know... where they talk about the entire process that the governement needs to follow to deal with these things. Including the rights to a judicial process. Because in your system, the executive branch is there to enforce the laws, they can make an entire case against someone that they believe broke the rules. But at the end of the day, the judicial branch has the final judgement. The executive branch is never: judge, jury and executioner. 8 U.S.C. § 1325, is consistent with the constitution and consistent with the cases ElwoodBlues is quoting. The problem is that you don't do any legwork and forgot to look at title 18 that is literally mentioned:


SOURCE: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

Title 18 U.S. Code Part II - Criminal PROCEDURE

SOURCE: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-II


EDIT after being Blocked: Let's hope GuidanceCouncelor finds some professional help, and gets some lessons in comprehending reading. Maybe foreigners will make him feel less insecure in the future.

@DanielsASJ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/22/ice-arrests-immigration-courts