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Do you dislike all Americans because of their President?

A very similar post was up for a short time yesterday before being removed for reasons only known to the poster. However, the deletion meant that some very positive comments disappeared along with an interesting sub-thread with views about why Trump was considered the lesser of two evils to some voters. I am giving a chance to those who responded to re-post or for new contributions.

Here's my answer:

No. I know of many fine Americans who have morals and integrity and who are suffering a great deal of angst an the moment as they see what's happening.
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Fungirlmmm · 51-55, F
I don't hate any country just because of their president. I dont hate Korea, China, Russia, or any of the other countries that have leaders that I tend to do the side eye at their mention. A country is made up of individuals, and unfortunately some people cannot get past what they see on TV to realize that what they are being fed a microscopic controlled view. I say this as a person that has traveled extensively on an international level. Good, bad, beautiful, or ugly we are all individual and unique... Dislike is a prettier word but hate will eat you up and Media should be ashamed for fueling that. If someone hates America and has never visited, please do so legally. You will see a different picture of America than what you are fed on the news. Just be ready to see a lot of devastation right now, because the Carolinas, Tennessee, Florida were all hit with massive hurricanes that they are predicting some of those states will take decades to recover and then California is on fire as well with massive damage. We have our problems but I would rather be herecthan many other countries I have visited.
Fungirlmmm · 51-55, F
@FreddieUK Youre welcome. I felt like I had to point out that a lot of thd posts I have seen use the "h word" like any of us can truly control what others do. Much respect in my heart for you and others who can see beyond the hype.
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@Fungirlmmm I'm considering visiting another country to test the waters and see if the people there are more understanding there than here.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
Absolutely not. I can’t think of a country that hasn’t had weak or terrible leaders, and America is no exception.

And I’ve had enough personal experiences working alongside Americans to never give up on them lightly. You can celebrate differences and make fun of each other but still stand together on the things that matter.

This is Ofcourse ignoring the obvious fact that you can’t hold 300 million people responsible for one man. I’d guess there’s even a percentage who did vote for him who might be having some regrets. I’ve certainly cast a vote I wish I hadn’t in my life.

I think the lasting impression on me is that a great country of very skilled people, why are their leadership options always so bad?
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@WintaTheAngle I think many of us have asked that question in recent months.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
@FreddieUK I think the challenge is, that we now have to deal with Trump directly, but without creating an Us/Them situation. He’s bad news and he’s going to wreck Americas international standing if he carries on this trajectory, but the American people must not be made to feel a door has closed on them. It won’t be simple.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@WintaTheAngle Absolutely agree.
No, I only dislike those who voted for him. And no, I don't think a political vote defines what kind of person someone is, but this election wasn't political. It was about raising or resisting tyranny, and that says everything about someone's morals.
@Adrift that can't be right. If they really didn't know the LGBTQ+ community, people of color, disabled people, etc. exist, they wouldn't try so hard getting rid of those groups.
daydeeo · 61-69, M
@NerdyPotato "if that "opinion" is that half the population should not exist, yes. "
🤔???
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It brings an interesting wider question:

Should you judge a people for the sins of the nation state?

Our native UK is now a middle-sized nation that has negligible global impact. In the 19th century, 'we' were the world's most powerful nation and did a lot of bad things. Our colonial legacy still has enormous impact the world over: from Africa to India, to Canada to America itself. . You can even make the case (based on history, shared language etc) that modern America is the successor to the British empire.

Are we to blame for the sins of our compatriots and our great grandfathers? No, but it's good to be aware of it and acknowledge the problems with the legacy.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 Very much so.
Thank you. I've recently come to realize how much pain and suffering my country causes for others. I'm sorry it's something I never saw before.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I've met plenty of Americans irll and on here, so it's a firm 'no' from me

I don't even dislike all Trump supporters. I think they are badly wrong.

The trump supporters who troll and insult people who are trying to engage in debate: Those I do dislike
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 I have come to the conclusion that actually there are only about half-a-dozen mouthy Trump supporters on here who just like to throw abuse around for fun and who have a selection of standard insults. I am now not responding to them any more. There are a couple who make a good go of debating and I can at least learn something from them about why they think the way they do.
Less than a month after his inauguration, people from specific groups who voted for Trump are complaining about him implementing things he clearly stated he planned to do. I really don’t know what is wrong with them. Were they not paying attention ? I can’t feel bad for them, but I can’t gloat, either—if this plane crashes, it’s going down with all of us. 😞
LMNtal · 22-25, M
I try not to judge a people (or their country) by their leaders. I love to travel, and I won't be put off from visiting a place, and interacting with the people, just because their head of state isn't great.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
No, I don't even hate all Russians. Many people are just trapped in countries that were hijacked by the worst kind of people. I should know, I live in one too.
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Adogslife · 61-69, M
I’m a Republican that’s displeased at Trump and the direction of the party.

I voted “against” Trump versus “for” Kamala and her attempted pseudo-coup.
@Adogslife "pseudo-coup". Riiiight.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Adogslife I think it was a hard choice for many Republicans to go against their instincts.
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EmoKing · M
No.
My media feeds are flooded with Americans who are genuinely distressed and afraid of what is to come.
It makes me sad.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@FreddieUK Sez the guy who just let this statement pass without a challenge...

My media feeds are flooded with Americans who are genuinely distressed and afraid of what is to come
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@SumKindaMunster Flooded, how would you know if they are even US citizens? I wouldn't trust the media.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@EmoKing If you believe what the media says, then Trump never won an election.
bookerdana · M
I AM an American..I can understand their dislike b/c of our bullying posture toward other countries,the blase use of the Nazi salute,and the ugly stance of some of our citizens
bookerdana · M
@FreddieUK But the images that come through the internet -television are powerful..the demonizing of immigrants who may have been here for over ten years and contribute to their community and country..on SW there is an international feel ,we see folks from every continent daily..but my friend in Canada is afraid they will lose their health care if the 51st state thing goes through
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swirlie · 31-35, F
@Fungirlmmm
I am not going to name the country as I do not want to detract so much, but I visited a country where the men urinated on the walkways that we had to use to go to and from our transportation.

France? Whether it was or not, that's what men wearing 3-piece suits do on their walk to work in the morning in downtown France.
not at all...i have a few american friends on here and i enjoy talking to my customers and suppliers
MasterLee · 56-60, M
The problem always has been when we have a weak and feckless president. The last one had no mental capacity, and his autopen signed whatever the socialists decided.

Trump is not weak or feckless, nor is he emptying the treasury for liberal causes foreign nor domestic. He demands the rule of law, and meriticracy be reinstated.

Trump speaks clearly and intelligently. Sometimes in sarcasm. The liberal media hates that. They hate not being able to shape stories and are losing power. The people now have direct access and it upsets the fiefdom.

Trump is direct. The government has grown too large. It is no longer accountable to the people. It needs to be reduced considerably. We need term limits. We need our politicians to fear the people, not the people fear the government.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@FreddieUK please continue your bash America thread unimpeded by opposition. I read it as all Presidents, not just the one you hate
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@MasterLee Have you not read my comment? Have you not read all the supportive comments of American people. No bashing of America on my part, I assure you.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@FreddieUK why yes I have read your comments
Lilymoon · F
No I've met a lot of nice Americans while travelling.

But.... I do hate the media and politics
meggie · F
No. There are good and bad people in every race. You can't dislike any whole race because of their president.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@meggie Perhaps I would use the word 'nation' rather than 'race' in this case as one of the boasts of the USA is that it has been a 'melting pot' of races. But what you say is true in either case.
meggie · F
@FreddieUK oops, yes you are right.
No. And I wish them luck, because they are going to need it.
Gangstress · 41-45, F
No not at all
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Gangstress That's good.
MaryJo1996 · 26-30, F
Not sure why anyone would dislike a countries whole population because of who their leader is. Be that leader elected or otherwise.
Lugwho · 56-60, M
No. I dislike their president.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard And I think many of us want to stand with you as you try to bring kindness and sanity into the chaos of cruelty and madness. Your voices must not be silenced.
Lugwho · 56-60, M
@bijouxbroussard I know. The hard thing to believe is how many do like him.
jenni100 · 18-21, F
@Lugwho it's sad that people on here don't even make the effort or see the need to.
No, I don't dislike all Americans but a democratically elected government has to be answered for by the electorate
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP I haven't seen that suggestion too often on SW, but I have heard Americans discuss it seriously in other places. As it happens, this time round the popular vote and the Electoral College vote coincided.
@FreddieUK a lot of Americans think their electoral system could be improved and I'm with them on that. But if my country had that system, I'd still say it was a democracy and so when it came down to acts by my government, I would welcome the praise we received for the positive and begrudgingly accept the brickbats for the bad.
To use a more concrete example: if my government levied retaliatory tariffs, would the collateral damage to undeserving Americans make it the wrong thing to do?
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP It's a question in all countries. It seems in this case though, that a lot of the people who voted for this government are going to be the ones to suffer. Some might say they deserve it, but others might say they were so deceived they couldn't see what was coming.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Noy at all.
Most Americans are decent people.
tindrummer · M
At least half of us
LaraHeels · 36-40, F
if somebody dislikes the population of a country because of its president or whatever politician, then there is for sure not much substance between somebody's ears 🤦🏽‍♀
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
The US loves Trump
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@nudistsueaz It seem clear from much of this thread that actually, some of the US loves Trump. However, in this discussion there is another question.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@FreddieUK Well the numbers don't lie.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@nudistsueaz And the numbers show what every election in the free world show...some people like the person who was elected and some don't.
Nimbus · M
Highly unlikely and most likely the complete opposite.

 
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