Work pirmits for seasonal employees is not hard to get ice is not after them they are after people who are not here under anytype of visa and have committed some legal infraction. If you believe otherwise your source is lying to you.
dale74 · M
@Penny there will be an occasional illegal immigrant who gets deported because they got caught in a situation or in a location that they were trying to get somebody else.But every one of them entered the country.Illegally or overstayed a visa, i've gone through the visa application process for my ex.Wife.It is a complicated process, but it is doable.We never hired a lawyer.We never paid some firm to do it.We did it all by ourselves.
4meAndyou · F
To understand what is going on, you have to FIRST understand the power struggle and manipulation of the information that normal people are receiving through the media.
Democrats want power, first and foremost. Their party is and was waning in popularity, and they could no longer win elections. Their policies were the problem.
So they decided to INCREASE the population...not with American citizens, but with illegal immigrants. Why? To pad the census numbers so that in BLUE states, and in Sanctuary cities, there would be huge populations...and the Democrats would gain more seats in the House and the Senate.
In BLUE states, like Massachusetts, (where I live), Democrat politicians are encouraging protests against ICE. The Mayor of Boston is particularly rabid and says SHE will never give in!!!
It's important to listen to BOTH parties when listening to news sources.
AND it's important to examine the sources of the FUNDING for these protests...which are not free.
"The anti-ICE protests received funding from three main sources:
Government Funding: CHIRLA, a key organization involved in the protests, received approximately $34 million in government grants in fiscal 2023 [1], with 96% ($32.5 million) coming from the State of California [2]. This included:
$3 million from California's Department of Social Services
Previous DHS federal grants totaling $1.2 million
Two "Citizenship and Integration" grants totaling $193,030 (later terminated by Trump administration) [2]
Private Organizations: The Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) was actively involved in funding and organizing protests [3]
Wealthy Individual Donors: Billionaire Neville Roy Singham has reportedly channeled over $20 million into radical organizations [3], with connections to PSL through the "Singham Network" [1]
2. Missing context/alternative viewpoints
Several important contextual elements were missing from the original question:
The protests were not spontaneous but carefully orchestrated events [4]
Organizations like ActBlue were involved in coordinating and financing the demonstrations [4]
The FBI is actively investigating the monetary connections behind the riots, particularly focusing on PSL and Singham-connected networks [5]
CHIRLA's government funding was primarily intended for immigration assistance services, not specifically for protests [1]
3. Potential misinformation/bias in the original statement
The simple question "Who funded the protests?" could be misleading because:
It suggests a simple funding structure, when in reality there was a complex network of government grants, private organizations, and wealthy donors
Different stakeholders benefit from different narratives:
CHIRLA benefits from emphasizing their legitimate government-funded services
State of California might want to distance itself from protest activities while maintaining support for immigration services
Organizations like PSL benefit from downplaying their connections to foreign-linked donors like Singham
Law enforcement agencies, particularly the FBI, have an interest in highlighting potential illegal funding connections [5]
The funding structure reveals a complex intersection of government policy, private activism, and international influence in American immigration politics."
https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/anti-ice-protest-funding-cfc66c
Democrats want power, first and foremost. Their party is and was waning in popularity, and they could no longer win elections. Their policies were the problem.
So they decided to INCREASE the population...not with American citizens, but with illegal immigrants. Why? To pad the census numbers so that in BLUE states, and in Sanctuary cities, there would be huge populations...and the Democrats would gain more seats in the House and the Senate.
In BLUE states, like Massachusetts, (where I live), Democrat politicians are encouraging protests against ICE. The Mayor of Boston is particularly rabid and says SHE will never give in!!!
It's important to listen to BOTH parties when listening to news sources.
AND it's important to examine the sources of the FUNDING for these protests...which are not free.
"The anti-ICE protests received funding from three main sources:
Government Funding: CHIRLA, a key organization involved in the protests, received approximately $34 million in government grants in fiscal 2023 [1], with 96% ($32.5 million) coming from the State of California [2]. This included:
$3 million from California's Department of Social Services
Previous DHS federal grants totaling $1.2 million
Two "Citizenship and Integration" grants totaling $193,030 (later terminated by Trump administration) [2]
Private Organizations: The Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) was actively involved in funding and organizing protests [3]
Wealthy Individual Donors: Billionaire Neville Roy Singham has reportedly channeled over $20 million into radical organizations [3], with connections to PSL through the "Singham Network" [1]
2. Missing context/alternative viewpoints
Several important contextual elements were missing from the original question:
The protests were not spontaneous but carefully orchestrated events [4]
Organizations like ActBlue were involved in coordinating and financing the demonstrations [4]
The FBI is actively investigating the monetary connections behind the riots, particularly focusing on PSL and Singham-connected networks [5]
CHIRLA's government funding was primarily intended for immigration assistance services, not specifically for protests [1]
3. Potential misinformation/bias in the original statement
The simple question "Who funded the protests?" could be misleading because:
It suggests a simple funding structure, when in reality there was a complex network of government grants, private organizations, and wealthy donors
Different stakeholders benefit from different narratives:
CHIRLA benefits from emphasizing their legitimate government-funded services
State of California might want to distance itself from protest activities while maintaining support for immigration services
Organizations like PSL benefit from downplaying their connections to foreign-linked donors like Singham
Law enforcement agencies, particularly the FBI, have an interest in highlighting potential illegal funding connections [5]
The funding structure reveals a complex intersection of government policy, private activism, and international influence in American immigration politics."
https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/anti-ice-protest-funding-cfc66c
In otder to have a country, we have to have borders; that goes without saying. And there is no point in having borders if we don't enforce them. The only solution to mass migration, is mass deportation. But that said, ICE engages in highly unethical behavior that simply isn't something I can get behind. Being "secret police", deporting literally ANY illegal immigrant regardless of how long they have been here, and then sending them to el-salvadorian prisons countries from their families without any due process? Not good at all.
I think in the USA people struggle to find a middle ground. Ppl think you must say nothing bad about mass migration into a country, or be in favor of any means possible to get them out.
I think in the USA people struggle to find a middle ground. Ppl think you must say nothing bad about mass migration into a country, or be in favor of any means possible to get them out.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
I don't have a problem with it.
It's unfortunate the last administration let in 10-15 million illegals while they simultaneously told everyone the border could not be closed and too bad, so sad.
Well, that was a lie. The border is closed, and now we need to remove those 10-15 million illegals. Surprise, surprise, they don't want to leave.
That's why we have a Federal law enforcement agency called ICE, which stands for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. They're whole job is to remove illegals. They have been around for awhile now and the did the same things under Clinton, Bush 2, Obama and even the Biden administration.
The media is controlled by the Democrats. They get cheap labor and cheap votes from these people so it is absolutely in their interest to keep these people here. So they focus on the tiny percentage of ICE's actions that show force, or show some poor person who has been here illegally for 20 years and didn't commit any violent crimes.
That's unfortunate for them. It's unfortunate they lived here for so long and never bothered to try and become a legal citizen. But that's a small price to pay to get rid of all the criminals and social services leeches coming in here and taking the benefits we set aside for citizens.
It's unfortunate the last administration let in 10-15 million illegals while they simultaneously told everyone the border could not be closed and too bad, so sad.
Well, that was a lie. The border is closed, and now we need to remove those 10-15 million illegals. Surprise, surprise, they don't want to leave.
That's why we have a Federal law enforcement agency called ICE, which stands for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. They're whole job is to remove illegals. They have been around for awhile now and the did the same things under Clinton, Bush 2, Obama and even the Biden administration.
The media is controlled by the Democrats. They get cheap labor and cheap votes from these people so it is absolutely in their interest to keep these people here. So they focus on the tiny percentage of ICE's actions that show force, or show some poor person who has been here illegally for 20 years and didn't commit any violent crimes.
That's unfortunate for them. It's unfortunate they lived here for so long and never bothered to try and become a legal citizen. But that's a small price to pay to get rid of all the criminals and social services leeches coming in here and taking the benefits we set aside for citizens.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
ICE has targeted ALL Latinos, regardless of immigration status. Quite a few people mishandled by them and basically forced in a concentration camp were either citizens or legal residents.
Also - targeting a fruit vendor is not going after a violent criminal. That's why Habeas Corpus (Due Process) is there, which is a right for ALL people on US soil regardless of immigration status as per the Constitution.
Also - undocumented immigration is a civil, not criminal matter. It's a misdemeanor, not a felony.
Also - targeting a fruit vendor is not going after a violent criminal. That's why Habeas Corpus (Due Process) is there, which is a right for ALL people on US soil regardless of immigration status as per the Constitution.
Also - undocumented immigration is a civil, not criminal matter. It's a misdemeanor, not a felony.
Penny · 46-50, F
@basilfawlty89 the criminals he mentioned were violent felons. i have heard of ICE detaining factory workers in the news though. so you call it a concentration camp. you think they are being killed? thats a serious accusation.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@Penny Concentration camps aren't the same as death camps, although they often become death camps.
Concentration camps predate the Germans.
The British put Boers in concentration camps in South Africa.
Germans started with concentration camps for political prisoners before turning them into death camps.
Several human rights organizations and scholars of genocide have warned the US is increasingly moving to genocide.
Concentration camps predate the Germans.
The British put Boers in concentration camps in South Africa.
Germans started with concentration camps for political prisoners before turning them into death camps.
Several human rights organizations and scholars of genocide have warned the US is increasingly moving to genocide.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
ICE is rounding up and deporting illegals. Portland LA and Chicago are severe left wing dems. They will oppose anything that trump does
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basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@xp47rb irrelevant. A legal professional would throw that out as a tu quoque.
It's not a valid argument, and no person may violate the Constitution - including POTUS.
The Constitution in a Republic is the Foundation of It's legal basis and is tge supreme law of the land.
The President is a public servamt still, beholden to follow the Constitution.
It's not a valid argument, and no person may violate the Constitution - including POTUS.
The Constitution in a Republic is the Foundation of It's legal basis and is tge supreme law of the land.
The President is a public servamt still, beholden to follow the Constitution.
RedBaron · M
@Penny Just look at his history. He denied losing the 2020 election and would have been fine with VP Pence being harmed to prevent certification of the election results on January 6th.
What about all the government employees he’s trying to fire even if it means departments won’t function?
What about the people who will lose health insurance coverage because of his so-called big beautiful bill?
It’s just the kind of person he is.
What about all the government employees he’s trying to fire even if it means departments won’t function?
What about the people who will lose health insurance coverage because of his so-called big beautiful bill?
It’s just the kind of person he is.
atlantic59 · 61-69, M
@RedBaron thankyou for saying that
Penny · 46-50, F
i think its sad people are getting deported but at the same time if they are here illegally it seems only right. how can we fix this mess?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@pdockal you misquote everything and yes, we need massive immigration reform. We need immigrants, our country was born out of immigration, we need to invest in it.
pdockal · 56-60, M
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@pdockal I will be kind, good night.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Please start by ceasing to call them "illegals." You have to first get over bias to understand the situation. Many are actually here on waivers, and special circumstances. They are entitled to be treated like humans, not vermin.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Penny God is too busy to bother with us, or with Trump. Men have free will.
Trump was the elected POTUS, we think after a fair, lawful election. He refused to believe he lost the 2000 election and even today claims it was "stolen." According to our constitution he is the commander in chief. That doesn't give him the license to kill, the SCOTUS did seem to do this by stating that anything he does as POTUS is legal. When i served on the US Navy i was taught to obey all legal, ethical orders and to refuse if I believe an order was not.
Trump was the elected POTUS, we think after a fair, lawful election. He refused to believe he lost the 2000 election and even today claims it was "stolen." According to our constitution he is the commander in chief. That doesn't give him the license to kill, the SCOTUS did seem to do this by stating that anything he does as POTUS is legal. When i served on the US Navy i was taught to obey all legal, ethical orders and to refuse if I believe an order was not.
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WonderGirl · 41-45, F
I think it's horrible. They're raiding apartment buildings. You're not even safe in your own home.
lilylovesgaming1986 · 36-40, F
@WonderGirl if u broken into the country illegal u don't belong here
I don’t feel bad when people that break the law get arrested
lilylovesgaming1986 · 36-40, F
If u came into the country illegal u don't belong in the United States. Ice is just doing their job
OriginalNedKelly · M
@lilylovesgaming1986 100% correct and the truth
FreestyleArt · 36-40, M
Watch the UK lives stream about Illegals taking over the country while law enforcement turning against it's own citizens.
And then Watch how the U.S. under Trump is dealing with so much fuckery from politicians letting them in and then Antifas. Trump has a full plate to clean up this country while the U.K prime minister does nothing to protect it.
And then Watch how the U.S. under Trump is dealing with so much fuckery from politicians letting them in and then Antifas. Trump has a full plate to clean up this country while the U.K prime minister does nothing to protect it.
calicuz · 56-60, M
This is the absolute worst administration in the history of the United States of America. Nothing but law breakers. I'll be glad when they are all in prison.
atlantic59 · 61-69, M
sorry. maybe I misunderstood you. What do you believe in again?
calicuz · 56-60, M
@atlantic59
Exactly, they believe in nothing but themselves. They are literally the "lovers of self" in their own scriptures, and they might recognize that if they actually read what they claim to believe in. Jesus Christ is nothing more than a political ideology to these people.
Exactly, they believe in nothing but themselves. They are literally the "lovers of self" in their own scriptures, and they might recognize that if they actually read what they claim to believe in. Jesus Christ is nothing more than a political ideology to these people.
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Penny · 46-50, F
@JamesBugman why do you think this is happenning?
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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Cassieeee Just saw ICE grabbed a US citizen TWICE from the same job. Grabbed him, had to release him because he was a citizen, went back and grabbed him again days later, had to release him again.
atlantic59 · 61-69, M
come on. Seriousl
Trump's Troops and his Gestapo pulling kids from the arms of mothers ?
Trump's Troops and his Gestapo pulling kids from the arms of mothers ?
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@atlantic59 you have seen it first hand i suppose🤣🤣
atlantic59 · 61-69, M
@Patriot96 whatever that means. Enjoy the ride I'm sure you are next
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TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
Go put a camera and mic under their nose.
90% have no idea . They getting paid cash to be disruptive
90% have no idea . They getting paid cash to be disruptive
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout i will assume you are describing the masked ICE agents.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
A waste of taxpayer money, driven by racism and the MAGA desire to keep its cultists scared and submissive.
Penny · 46-50, F
@ChipmunkErnie seriously? deporting criminals here illegally is racism? you really think its because theyre not "white"?
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Penny Yup, that's why.
Penny · 46-50, F
@ChipmunkErnie so, the alternative is to prove youre not racist by letting violent criminals here illegally run rampant? or put them in jail for the taxpayers to house and feed and give all the rights of legal criminals to?
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