@caPnAhab Agreed!

@UnderLockDown They are greedy and want more!

@Fairydust Well you have the Chinese social credit as the model..😷

@whowasthatmaskedman

That’s what they want here.

@Fairydust And while I know thats stroking the fur backward on every"freedom loving" , gun toting American, it is a great war of getting people to conform and perform, as compared to say, shooting them and locking them up. I want to make it clear I not advocating it. even in China. Just commenting on the results.. Remember, China has ten times the population to keep in line and overall they seem to be doing a pretty good job.😷

@Alababy Good point.

@Musicman The Osage Indians that lived in Oklahoma a century ago became very wealthy due to the oil that was discovered on their land. They had so much money from royalties that they built mansions and bought expensive imported cars. There were no mechanics to repair them and if they had major problem they’d go buy another car just like them. Word got out and it made other not-as-rich people extremely wealthy. They accused them of squandering their wealth. And they influenced Congress to pass a bill where any Indians with 50% or more Indian blood would have to have a White guardian to do any business transactions. Some of the women married white men, who suddenly were attracted to this tribe, and the men were made guardians over the women’s business transactions. Some of those women were murdered and made to look like accidents so their white husbands would get everything that they owned including their money. There is a movie made about it recently called [b]Killers of the Flower Moon[/b]…it’s been popular here.

Nowadays the oil royalties in various tribes are being withheld for many decades. Those Indians think that they can take legal action and get their money back but it seems like a pipe dream. I worked with a Kiowa woman whose mother was owed about $2 million in oil royalties from the oil taken from her property and that was over several decades. She didn’t see a penny of it even though her daughter was hopeful that they would get it. She died in an accident when rushing water swept the van and 2 other relatives in swept the van off the bridge and that was about 16 years ago. As far as I know the family still hasn’t received those oil royalties and probably never will. So the government is still screwing with the Indians and this is just one example.

@Musicman I like your first sentence. Look at Eric Adams, mayor of NYC. Stopped by the FBI, had his phone taken. All because he crossed the angry, power hungry and vindictive Joe Biden. There’s your “ threat to democracy”

@soar2newhighs Exactly! Could you imagine having $100k in your bank account and because you spoke against the Democrats having your bank freeze your bank account and not even being allowed in a restaurant even if your friend is paying because your "social credit score" was to low. 😡😡😡

@AbbeyRhode Exactly!

@PhoenixPhail I concur.

@MrBrownstone We might not have much choice :(

@Zaphod42 Yea, that IS the current situation but will our overlords be happy with that?

@Zaphod42 Agreed. I am also fortunate to be running at a small profit with income exceeding outgoings and not having it show is helpful..😷

@WillaKissing That's true.

@AuRevoir My great grandmother was blind, and could tell the amount of money due to the size of the Australian pound currency - all different sizes in Australia

@nedkelly Yeah when she herself was managing it. As I referenced it would be like being blind, and trusting someone else to tell you everything about your own money... It creates a system of easy robbery within the system.

@Fairydust
Oh yes, and it is nice to hear from you again, you are my favorite person on this site!

@ArcAngel

Aw that’s kind of you, I just pay attention 😌 like yourself.

@Fairydust
You and I are the rare ones who do, like Jesus said only the few will find the straight and narrow path.

@MsSwan It is but will we have a choice in the matter?

@Nimbus Of course not. 😑

@SatanBurger There are other ways of dealing with the more-trash problem. There is [i]infinitely[/i] more paper being sent to me as junk mail, than I'll [i]ever[/i] have as currency. Let's stop the junk mail.

@PhoenixPhail I still support cashless if reasons for technological advancement. They will take some of our jobs, with other solutions tho, people don't need to work that much anyways. The 14 hour work day is economic issues that aren't being fixed.

@SatanBurger It will give the powers that be even more control over us.

Go back on the gold standard

@Carissimi Oh my!

@ABCDEF7 That's one positive.

@Nimbus What will happen is children will move back in with their parents and the parents will leave the house to their children.
So that kills the care home debacle where residents give their house proceeds to fund their care.
That also kills the housing market because their children won't want to move. There'll be plenty of properties available but a shrinking number of folk who will want to buy.
That in turn will see the over-priced value given to a home plummet.
Putting all financial institutions including the Bank of England (and others in other countries if they follow suit) in jeopardy of being worthless.
And the whole house of cards topples.

@Picklebobble2 Kinda seems like a retrograde step.
What do they get out of such a thing apart from control?

@Nimbus Governments have nothing left to sell.
Political parties as we know them will soon become irrelevant.
In order for government as we currently know it to survive, they think they can buy and sell their populace to the big corporations of the world because they will pay for that !
Beautifully demonstrated by the American drug industry regularly.
Beautifully demonstrated by Trump's attempt to get the UK and Europe to buy their 'Bleached chicken' etc.

Corporate ideas rejected because the Johnson government knew we wouldn't buy it due to strict rules surrounding food production in Europe.

Politics is dying. Traditional parties are so clueless at the moment look at the extremes of leadership we have all over the world.
If this plan to eradicate cash is allowed to go through, we, the customers, lose [b]all choice[/b] !
No matter [b]which[/b] company you [b]choose[/b] to do business with, you [b]won't[/b] be able to play one company off against another to get the best price for the job/service you want.

Europe and the UK especially, really needs to up it's game in the world of 'Big pharma' too.
You can't have four companies making 90% of the drugs we use.

@FreestyleArt Exactly.

@AlchemyFox Good luck with that ;)

@whowasthatmaskedman Me too!

@cherokeepatti I see people being mugged on television all the time, and whenever I get out of my car, I look all around me, because I know that I could be a target.

@4meAndyou You can get mugged even without any cash on you. They’ll come up and grab your purse. Put the cash somewhere else like in your sock if it’s that bad where you live. You don’t want your credit or debit cards stolen either. They can also hack them when you are standing in line or filling up with gas at a gas pump. It happened to somewhere here last month. They went home and checked their bank balance within a couple hours and already 6 debits had been made after the hack.

@cherokeepatti Scary what can happen.

@SW-User lol, interesing ;)

@SW-User yep. The fiat currency, fractional reserve banking scam is coming to an end and cashless is the pivot to even more control from the very same people who sold you "bits of paper"

@MrBrownstone Exactly

@SW-User we can still do that in given situations if we can have some cash as well. It takes time and haggling skills to do it.

@WintaTheAngle That's one advantage :)

@Nimbus It also gives you a reason to walk past charity collectors, sales people and the homeless.

@WintaTheAngle Good point :)

@Ontheroad It's fastly approaching that surely?

@Nimbus It's a long, long way from that and until we get banks out of it, or get the fees they charge for every transaction out of it, and give the less affluent the means to have access to a wireless economy, then it will never get a whole more cashless than it is now.

@Ontheroad I hope so.

@Guitarman123 Now THAT would be something.

@Guitarman123 and how is a cashless system going to implement "a fairer and equal opportunity society"?