Do you welcome the moves towards a cashless society ?

@Musicman We’d be locked into the system that way.

@cherokeepatti Yep. Complain about Biden and get cut off from groceries. Complain because they cut your friend off from food and you are not allowed to have gas for your car to go to work. Have your Internet shut off. Your power turned off and eventually even be told you are not allowed to work. Lose the place you are living and be forced to live on the street. They could even cut you off from homeless shelters if they wanted.

@Musicman There was a TV show that featured such a scenario with a false credit history. I believe they said it was based on a true case. The man got his credit cut off and he had a hard time surviving. He kept trying to tell the ones who created those credit scores based on credit and default on debts that it was someone else who had those defaults, same name different person. We were buying a house over 20 years ago and I didn’t do a credit check on myself. The credit reporting companies had gotten my name mixed up with someone who lived about 60 miles away and had all of her loans and credit card history on my account. We had to report it but lost time with the purchase of the home on an account of it. I had to delay moving out of my apartment for a month after I told the manager I would be out by Thanksgiving. It’s so easy to get people’s accounts messed up when the credit reporting companies are located near the southern border and hire people on the cheap to work there and they aren’t totally fluent in English.

@cherokeepatti Yep. In this case it would all be legal with no reproach. They could turn you on and off at a whim due to your new "social credit score". It wouldn't matter if you were a multi millionaire. A push of the button and you are cut off until you fall in line.

@Musicman The Osage Indians that lived in Oklahoma a century ago became very wealthy due to the oil that was discovered on their land. They had so much money from royalties that they built mansions and bought expensive imported cars. There were no mechanics to repair them and if they had major problem they’d go buy another car just like them. Word got out and it made other not-as-rich people extremely wealthy. They accused them of squandering their wealth. And they influenced Congress to pass a bill where any Indians with 50% or more Indian blood would have to have a White guardian to do any business transactions. Some of the women married white men, who suddenly were attracted to this tribe, and the men were made guardians over the women’s business transactions. Some of those women were murdered and made to look like accidents so their white husbands would get everything that they owned including their money. There is a movie made about it recently called [b]Killers of the Flower Moon[/b]…it’s been popular here.

Nowadays the oil royalties in various tribes are being withheld for many decades. Those Indians think that they can take legal action and get their money back but it seems like a pipe dream. I worked with a Kiowa woman whose mother was owed about $2 million in oil royalties from the oil taken from her property and that was over several decades. She didn’t see a penny of it even though her daughter was hopeful that they would get it. She died in an accident when rushing water swept the van and 2 other relatives in swept the van off the bridge and that was about 16 years ago. As far as I know the family still hasn’t received those oil royalties and probably never will. So the government is still screwing with the Indians and this is just one example.

@Musicman I like your first sentence. Look at Eric Adams, mayor of NYC. Stopped by the FBI, had his phone taken. All because he crossed the angry, power hungry and vindictive Joe Biden. There’s your “ threat to democracy”

@soar2newhighs Exactly! Could you imagine having $100k in your bank account and because you spoke against the Democrats having your bank freeze your bank account and not even being allowed in a restaurant even if your friend is paying because your "social credit score" was to low. 😡😡😡