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lovebrazil · 22-25, F
The YouTube kids should be the primary income holder in a family!

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@lovebrazil sad that this is a thing now but it is in this world
I think you need to get out of the 1950s
bookerdana · M
@Ghostinthemachine june cleaver agrees

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I disagree. People should be in a career that makes them content. If that means a woman is in a career where she earns more than a man, so what?
Happiness comes before $$ for me.
Happiness comes before $$ for me.
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@SW-User I'm glad you think that way
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saragoodtimes · F
he earns, I pay. thank God he earns more than I have to pay each month.
ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F
I think whomever has a higher salary has the higher salary, regardless of gender, and sometimes the person who earns more changes throughout the relationship.
nedkelly · 61-69, M
My wife has never worked, as she wanted to be a stay at home mother - she did an excellent job
SUPERVlXEN · F
"Should" makes it look like an over all opinion for women being depending on men and their money. To me that makes it look stupid and going against equality which I firmly support. You can make it "your" personal choice for yourself, but why make the rest of us live in misery when most of us have other hopes/wishes in life. In my view it's simply an idiotic statement.

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@SUPERVlXEN The idea is prevailing though, even about work (regardless of gender), since the idea got enough hearts. And it makes me feel, you don't want a parent at home?
SUPERVlXEN · F
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I'm again not sure what to make of your last statement. I wish you a lovely day.
I'm again not sure what to make of your last statement. I wish you a lovely day.

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@SUPERVlXEN Well, the prevailing theme in this thread by the op and TheCarpenter, only those who work a lot are deserving. I resisted naming, thus the confusion. I used you in the royal sense.
CookieCrumbs · F
I have a totally different position in the matter. A marriage is a partnership, not a sponsorship of one for the other.
And this is specially true if both parties have the ability to work and be productive.
I insisted on paying my share on everything, including trips or vacations.
And this is specially true if both parties have the ability to work and be productive.
I insisted on paying my share on everything, including trips or vacations.

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I don't agree, I think you should be able to stand on your own if need be as life sometimes doesn't work out but a healthy relationship to me is a partnership. It shouldn't be on just one person. Both people should help each other. That's my two cents.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@SW-User I think she's a fool who is too enchanted with 1950s nostalgia.
When men end up being the breadwinner we have too much power and control.
Like if I own the deed to a place and this is highly hypothetical not something I'd actually do they could be like hey I'm horny help a brother out and you'd be like "I have a headache and i'm not in the mood" and he could just be all "A mans home is his castle, the fuck am I even letting you live here for if you don't put out?"
Threatening to throw you on the streets. My dad was able to largely abuse his power against his kids with threats of expulsion in the present housing market where everything is unaffordable by default.
and to be clear in this situation since he can prove he owns the deed to the property if you call the police over it they'll just be like it's his house.
totally within his authority.
Suddenly you can't even say no or you'll be homeless.
That's why I believe those who cling to traditional values are self destructive fools.
They don't even realize what they're putting themselves in for.
I like it too when they have their own income because I mean if she can leave me whenever she wants the danger of that happening makes the fact that she doesn't all that much more validating.
Dating women is infinitely better on Hard mode.
When men end up being the breadwinner we have too much power and control.
Like if I own the deed to a place and this is highly hypothetical not something I'd actually do they could be like hey I'm horny help a brother out and you'd be like "I have a headache and i'm not in the mood" and he could just be all "A mans home is his castle, the fuck am I even letting you live here for if you don't put out?"
Threatening to throw you on the streets. My dad was able to largely abuse his power against his kids with threats of expulsion in the present housing market where everything is unaffordable by default.
and to be clear in this situation since he can prove he owns the deed to the property if you call the police over it they'll just be like it's his house.
totally within his authority.
Suddenly you can't even say no or you'll be homeless.
That's why I believe those who cling to traditional values are self destructive fools.
They don't even realize what they're putting themselves in for.
I like it too when they have their own income because I mean if she can leave me whenever she wants the danger of that happening makes the fact that she doesn't all that much more validating.
Dating women is infinitely better on Hard mode.
NCCindy · 36-40, F
Been earning significantly more than my husband for ages.
I'm fine with it... And so is he.
I'm fine with it... And so is he.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@NCCindy It was the same for my husband and me.
exexec · 70-79, C
I disagree. I know a lot of families in which the wife makes more than the husband. My daughter is a manager, making an excellent salary, and her husband is a coach, making less, but enjoying his work.

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If that’s the case I’m screwed
I think that I'd want to have my own income in a marriage, which I did.
I also put the majority of the down payment on our house.
I hustled hard, and I am damn proud of that.
So, I absolutely do not agree with your statement.
I also put the majority of the down payment on our house.
I hustled hard, and I am damn proud of that.
So, I absolutely do not agree with your statement.
JoyfulSilence · 46-50, M
It should not be a requirement.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
Why?
nedkelly · 61-69, M
@Keepitsimple Good question
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
My kids would have starved and been naked if I didn’t work when they were home. @nedkelly
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Why? Why should a man necessarily earn more? Why should men not be allowed to take care of the kids?
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Penny Yes, I did it so I could return to work while my husband was a stay at home father. I earned more than he so the alternative was to take a significant drop in our living standards. Neither of us wanted that. He would agree that taking care of babies is no easy feat but he did it. What's more, I was able to come home to find the housework done and dinner nearly ready. :)
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@Penny as others have pointed out milk can be stored. Furthermore, if not available, there is formula. My mum didn't produce breast milk. Which might explain why I like boobs.
NortiusMaximus · M
@SW-User Expressing milk is where a woman milks herself so the milk can be stored and fed to the baby later.
Yulianna · 26-30, F
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TheSirfurryanimalWales · 61-69, M
@Yulianna about 200 years ago 😅
Gusman · 61-69, M
Imagine how much easier when there are two incomes in the family.
Women have the same right as men to earn a living.
Women have the same right as men to earn a living.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
There is no should. Different dynamics work for different couples/families.

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Nope it should be 50/50 all of marriage should be 🤷🏽♀️ But whatever works for people, works for them
rachelsj · 22-25, F
I agree with you. Im a stay at home wife.
anythingoes477 · M
If you are married where there is a "his money" and "my money" mentality.......then who makes the most matters to those people. But if you are JOINTLY married in all things and whoever earns whatever don't matter because it all goes into the same account for the benefit of both............why does it matter who makes the most?
PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
I believe that if you are together...all money goes in the bank...pays the bills and buys groceries and gas and anything left is expendable money. Unless there is a big purchase which is decided by both of us together the money is there for spending.
smiler2012 · 61-69
{@solitaire] it seems an old fashioned idea but i agree . alas in this day and age one wage is not always enough too make ends meet with bills and a family
nedkelly · 61-69, M
@smiler2012 Stop ya bullshit - scousers have NEVER WORKED
smiler2012 · 61-69
@nedkelly 😄 what ned is housebreaking and burgalry not a profession now
LUVELACE · T
Not this day an age,it take two to run a household in today’s environment,that old ethos belongs in a museum confined too history.Equal rights,Equal opportunities n equal pay,so you pay everything 50/50.
Subjective it is. Many wives like being home maker as their full time job.
To each their own. The point is to respect everyones' interests for less divorces to occur.
To each their own. The point is to respect everyones' interests for less divorces to occur.
Niloo · 46-50, F
I don’t think it’s necessarily true
As long as the two partners work well and contribute all they can and there is love and respect , the marriage can work .
As long as the two partners work well and contribute all they can and there is love and respect , the marriage can work .
Miram · 31-35, F
People put importance on things that should not matter and it is why they will find themselves with no one to depend on.
Men are still being objectified based on income
Men are still being objectified based on income

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Whoever can make the most money should be the primary income holder. There's what we believe and what our ideals are, and then there's being practical. It would be alright if the rest of society was adjusted to men earning all or most of the money now but it's simply not. Things are expensive and people need money. No one truly cares about opinions because they don't pay bills or buy us all the nice things we want for ourselves and our families. Life is about survival and that's it.
ABCDEF7 · M
Although it has been the way you are talking for the centuries. But now as the dynamics of work has changed, giving more and more opportunities to women to work and earn. And also there were different social reasons to that.
Today, I think, it should depend on the mutual agreement of both, how they both decide to manage work(income), family, home, etc.
Today, I think, it should depend on the mutual agreement of both, how they both decide to manage work(income), family, home, etc.
Adstar · 56-60, M
Yes, I agree because when she wants to have kids and become a mother most woman no longer want to work long hours in demanding jobs.. That leads them to pick jobs that are low paying and part time.. That means woman need a husband who can earn the money needed to achieve the primary support of the family..
Adstar · 56-60, M
@ninalanyon Why do you assume cave men never had morals??? I have absolutly no idea what he means by the cave comment? And anyway what does this little exchange have to do with morals.. It has everything to do with preferences.. Mens preferences and womans preferences.. What most men want and what most woman want..
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Adstar Another interpretation of the cave comment is that he thinks you have been living isolated from the world and the changes in ways of thinking about peoples roles in partnerships.
If @solitaire had said at the outset that she merely preferred men to be the primary income holders we would be having a different discussion because it would be a matter between her and her male partner. But she said should; that makes it everyone else's business too because making such a rule deprives others of autonomy.
If @solitaire had said at the outset that she merely preferred men to be the primary income holders we would be having a different discussion because it would be a matter between her and her male partner. But she said should; that makes it everyone else's business too because making such a rule deprives others of autonomy.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@ninalanyon
Well then if that's the point he was making then why cant he state it as clearly as you have.. Surely it was not hard for you to state it as you have?
She was expressing a personal opinion, her desire.. Her opinion that something should be this way or that way is again a Personal opinion.. So when anyone says things should be this way or that way people can reply with well i think things should be another way.. People should not troll her with personal attacks or denigration..
Everyone here is here to express personal opinions.. No need to get all worked up over someone else's options.. Especially when it is only about peoples personal preferences in prospective life partners..
@Adstar Another interpretation of the cave comment is that he thinks you have been living isolated from the world and the changes in ways of thinking about peoples roles in partnerships.
Well then if that's the point he was making then why cant he state it as clearly as you have.. Surely it was not hard for you to state it as you have?
If @solitaire had said at the outset that she merely preferred men to be the primary income holders we would be having a different discussion because it would be a matter between her and her male partner. But she said should; that makes it everyone else's business too because making such a rule deprives others of autonomy.
She was expressing a personal opinion, her desire.. Her opinion that something should be this way or that way is again a Personal opinion.. So when anyone says things should be this way or that way people can reply with well i think things should be another way.. People should not troll her with personal attacks or denigration..
Everyone here is here to express personal opinions.. No need to get all worked up over someone else's options.. Especially when it is only about peoples personal preferences in prospective life partners..

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Idc about primary income or gender but whoever u marry should be rich, secure that bag kings/queens 👑
Northwest · M
Sure, that could work. It' s not like people ever divorced, or into abusive/controlling relationships, where the abused party has no options, other than to take it.
ShadowWolf · 31-35, M
Wrong. Times have changed. Based on your other post, I agree with @Ghostinthemachine, time to get out of the 50s. Progress goes BOTH ways.
in10RjFox · M
Yes.. for the concept of marriage itself is age old and created in a male chauvinistic time period..
But evolution is set to change everything as women soon would start claiming husband-hood and have their male partner as wifes ..
But evolution is set to change everything as women soon would start claiming husband-hood and have their male partner as wifes ..
Penny · 46-50, F
yes because if you have kids the woman will be needed at home at least for a time
NortiusMaximus · M
@Penny You can't have met many men. In my experience men are often better at housework than most women.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Penny My husband was an excellent house-husband and full-time stay-at-home father. I'm sure he did a better job than I could have. It would have made no sense for me to give up a high paid career to stay at home and struggle financially on what he could earn.
Penny · 46-50, F
@Caroline259 yes that would make sense
antonioioio · 70-79, M
It's depends on the education of the couple and the jobs they might have
solitaire · 41-45, F
I think they should be well matched in all aspects @antonioioio

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Not sure I agree or disagree
However, it should be an agreed upon non issue in a relationship/marriage
Imo
However, it should be an agreed upon non issue in a relationship/marriage
Imo
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
It is a statistical fact that most marriages fail where the woman makes more money than the man. If he can't provide for her she doesn't need him.
SUPERVlXEN · F
@hippyjoe1955
It's such a shame when one has to work for a relationship rather than simply just have the power of economic inequality, right? 🤦🏼♀️
It's such a shame when one has to work for a relationship rather than simply just have the power of economic inequality, right? 🤦🏼♀️
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SUPERVlXEN I hope that makes more sense in your mind that it did on SW. If you have a point can you try to explain it a bit?
Philasefer · M
Nowadays with the rise of living expenses it would be great if the woman can help out, otherwise its too hard for one person
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Why do you think that?
Apart from offending notions of gender equality, it doesn't make a great deal of economic sense to me.
Apart from offending notions of gender equality, it doesn't make a great deal of economic sense to me.
Forgetmeknot · 41-45
Nah, people can live how they want.
Goodbye
solitaire · 41-45, F
@PepsiColaP Huh?
Should is too strong.
pdockal · 56-60, M
Why ????
Why can't a woman be ?????
Why can't a woman be ?????
Why?
Lauren19 · 26-30, F
Nope.

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Why is that ? On one hand we fight for gender equality and women's rights and on the other hand we can't make such a convenient hypocritical statement.

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Call me crazy but I believe in equality … makes for a healthy compromise 😌🦋

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@SW-User Which interpretation of compromise are we talking? 🧐

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He jiggles his cap then she dances for him, everyone knows that silly 😌@SW-User
YoMomma ·
I think my opinion doesn't matter in regard to others financial preferences..
I wish my mom would have stayed home instead of trying to run around and make money tho.. I think the same of the mom of the kids I used to babysit..
I guess even tho i dislike sexism that i prefer traditional values
I wish my mom would have stayed home instead of trying to run around and make money tho.. I think the same of the mom of the kids I used to babysit..
I guess even tho i dislike sexism that i prefer traditional values
Rambler · 61-69, M
Whatever works in that particular household. And whatever is working, sometimes fate and the job market change it.
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