Why do Americans that believe CNN's (and the rest of mass media) lies think Trump is the new Hitler?
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LeopoldBloom · M
It’s an exaggeration, but it doesn’t help when Trump says he will be a “dictator” or that he plans to purge the federal bureaucracy and appoint his own toadies.
Conservative news outlets do the same thing when they accuse Democrats of being “socialists” or “communists.” No Democrat has called for the nationalization of private industry or outlawing private property. Same when Democrats are accused of “hating God” when many leading Democrats are devout Christians. For example, Obama, Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and Pete Buttigieg. Delaware Senator Chris Coons co-chairs the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast.
Conservative news outlets do the same thing when they accuse Democrats of being “socialists” or “communists.” No Democrat has called for the nationalization of private industry or outlawing private property. Same when Democrats are accused of “hating God” when many leading Democrats are devout Christians. For example, Obama, Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and Pete Buttigieg. Delaware Senator Chris Coons co-chairs the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast.
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Carazaa · F
@LeopoldBloom That is a true statement!
joe438 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom You're right that it's not a party platform, but a number of Dems have suggested that the government is better suited to own property than we are. In 2017, de Blasio (then mayor of NYC) said precisely that. https://nypost.com/2017/09/05/a-plea-to-democrats-to-back-anyone-but-de-blasio/ Fortunately these calls for abolishing individual rights haven't gained traction, but they're out there along with crazy right-wing nonsense that also falls flat.
LeopoldBloom · M
@joe438 And some Republicans have expressed the viewpoint that the US should be a Christian theocracy, or that all government regulation should be abolished, with the "free market" regulating all transactions.
And that article is nothing more than a hysterical screed implying that de Blasio is responsible for every bad thing that happens in America, including many things that are only happening in right wing fever dreams. But let's look at his actual statement:
[quote]“Our legal system is structured to favor private property,” he said, insisting that “people would like to have the city government be able to determine which building goes where, how high it will be, who gets to live in it, what the rent will be.”
For good measure, he added: “If I had my druthers, the city government would determine every single plot of land, how development would proceed. And there would be very stringent requirements around income levels and rents. That’s a world I’d love to see.”[/quote]
He's not talking about government confiscation of private property, he's talking about increased regulation, including zoning restrictions and rent controls, [i]which have existed in NYC for a long time already[/i]. In fact, nearly every city in America has zoning restrictions. This is why someone can't build a toxic waste processing plant next to your house. This is a far cry from the "abolition of private property."
And that article is nothing more than a hysterical screed implying that de Blasio is responsible for every bad thing that happens in America, including many things that are only happening in right wing fever dreams. But let's look at his actual statement:
[quote]“Our legal system is structured to favor private property,” he said, insisting that “people would like to have the city government be able to determine which building goes where, how high it will be, who gets to live in it, what the rent will be.”
For good measure, he added: “If I had my druthers, the city government would determine every single plot of land, how development would proceed. And there would be very stringent requirements around income levels and rents. That’s a world I’d love to see.”[/quote]
He's not talking about government confiscation of private property, he's talking about increased regulation, including zoning restrictions and rent controls, [i]which have existed in NYC for a long time already[/i]. In fact, nearly every city in America has zoning restrictions. This is why someone can't build a toxic waste processing plant next to your house. This is a far cry from the "abolition of private property."
Richard65 · M
You don't have to believe any media lies, the guy is happy to spout his insane rants on camera during rallies and interviews. You just have to watch him with your own eyes and listen to him with your own ears. The insidious genius of the Trump campaign is to convince weak minded people NOT to trust their own senses, but to trust Trump's warped version of reality.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@SumKindaMunster At least I can muster, it's better than Muenster 🧀
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@SumKindaMunster Awww, it's sweet that you're blowing me kisses, i didn't know you had a thing for us gurls? 🤨
Carla · 61-69, F
If you are not curious enough to look deeply into trump's past... i mean interviews, business failures, old newspaper articles, tabloid articles (which trump himself initiated), legal filings...then you really don't care why the left, and those you call rinos on the right, feel how they do about donald trump.
When he became potus, he lived up precisely, to what we expected of him.
But it's you people(yeah...i read this whole thread. If you didn't vote for trump it's because you couldn't for some reason) that i am so disappointed in. I never in a million years believed so many people could fall victim to such a pedestrian conman.
It has little to do with cnn. It has much to do with trumps own words and actions for the past fifty odd years.
When he became potus, he lived up precisely, to what we expected of him.
But it's you people(yeah...i read this whole thread. If you didn't vote for trump it's because you couldn't for some reason) that i am so disappointed in. I never in a million years believed so many people could fall victim to such a pedestrian conman.
It has little to do with cnn. It has much to do with trumps own words and actions for the past fifty odd years.
Carazaa · F
He is a criminal who does not care about people, and will probably go to prison. I get upset that he calls himself a christian because he lies and is NOT loving, therefore not a christian at all! He puts Jesus to shame. So sad. No born again christian would ever vote for him. People who love him also love violence, guns, and they hate foreigners and homeless, etc. Jesus told us that there would be false Jesus in the last generation. Trump is a false Jesus. People worship him, but it is really Satan that they worship.
specman · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom I already said in a previous comment that I tend to judge that’s one of my downfalls. I don’t claim to be perfect in following Jesus’s teachings as she does. I don’t act holier than thou like she does. I know it is not right to judge and Jesus even teaches that she apparently doesn’t. It just irks me when someone acts holier than thou and think they do no wrong and will publicly admit it. Christian’s are not perfect we all fall short of the Glory of God without Jesus.
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Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@SumKindaMunster it really blows my mind that people don’t see what he does!! 🤔🤔
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Handfull1 Such as?
needsmilk808 · 56-60, M
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@SumKindaMunster of course not. You don’t know me personally so it’s just hearsay!
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Handfull1 Interesting. You aren't an American but your profile says you live in the United States.
I ask, because any average American could watch this clip and understand that Trump is [i]joking.[/i] He's essentially saying, No, I won't be a dictator, but on my first day as President I will dictate that we close the Southern border and drill drill drill(whatever that means).
That's why I asked the questions I did. He's clearly speaking in jest and the MSM has decided to take him literally even though that's the wrong take. If you can't see he is joking then you are missing the point.
I ask, because any average American could watch this clip and understand that Trump is [i]joking.[/i] He's essentially saying, No, I won't be a dictator, but on my first day as President I will dictate that we close the Southern border and drill drill drill(whatever that means).
That's why I asked the questions I did. He's clearly speaking in jest and the MSM has decided to take him literally even though that's the wrong take. If you can't see he is joking then you are missing the point.
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@SumKindaMunster you missed my point also. And if you knew I was from the US, why did you ask? Of course, I could be an illegal immigrant and just live here! 🙄🙄🙄
ElwoodBlues · M
That's an exaggeration. What people ARE doing is getting worried about Trump's existing promises to abuse the power of the presidency.
[quote]"You are promising America tonight you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody?" Hannity asked.
"Except for Day One," Trump said. [/quote]
Clearly, Trump is promising that he WILL abuse power on Day One. And what else has Trump said along those line??
Trump has plainly stated that he wants dictatorial powers with which to punish his enemies. And he sent a mob to violently overthrow Congress, but they failed. It was, as Mitch McConnell said, a "failed insurrection."
About a year ago Trump called for the U.S. Constitution to be suspended so that he could return to the Presidency.
[quote]A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections![/quote]
Trump says he plans to invoke the Insurrection Act so he can dispatch the military to counter any demonstrations that might resist his policies.
[quote]If a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them.[/quote]
It's been widely reported that Trump said privately he'll order the Department of Justice to pursue prosecutions of his former aides and officials who have criticized him. In his crosshairs are former chief of staff John F. Kelly, former attorney general William Barr, his ex-attorney Ty Cobb, and former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair Mark A. Milley; not to mention practically every elected official with a D after their name.
[quote]"You are promising America tonight you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody?" Hannity asked.
"Except for Day One," Trump said. [/quote]
Clearly, Trump is promising that he WILL abuse power on Day One. And what else has Trump said along those line??
Trump has plainly stated that he wants dictatorial powers with which to punish his enemies. And he sent a mob to violently overthrow Congress, but they failed. It was, as Mitch McConnell said, a "failed insurrection."
About a year ago Trump called for the U.S. Constitution to be suspended so that he could return to the Presidency.
[quote]A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections![/quote]
Trump says he plans to invoke the Insurrection Act so he can dispatch the military to counter any demonstrations that might resist his policies.
[quote]If a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them.[/quote]
It's been widely reported that Trump said privately he'll order the Department of Justice to pursue prosecutions of his former aides and officials who have criticized him. In his crosshairs are former chief of staff John F. Kelly, former attorney general William Barr, his ex-attorney Ty Cobb, and former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair Mark A. Milley; not to mention practically every elected official with a D after their name.
black4white · 56-60, M
@Neman1622 please explain why presenting FACTS makes a person an idiot? This is your post but to respond with insults is really insulting to YOU more so than anyone else.
NOW if those things were made up then spot on but they are all documented comments and or quotes by the Orangeman.
@ElwoodBlues 👍🏿 you go
NOW if those things were made up then spot on but they are all documented comments and or quotes by the Orangeman.
@ElwoodBlues 👍🏿 you go
Carla · 61-69, F
@bijouxbroussard this is all entertainment. These people, many of them, had no interest or skin in the politics game before trump came on the scene. It's like they somehow are an important character in a realty tv program. These questions are to to create drama.
And look. I fell right into it.
And look. I fell right into it.
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
akindheart · 61-69, F
black4white · 56-60, M
So it amazes me how the minions don’t appreciate facts UNLESS Orangeman spews them which we know is impossible.
The man is a rapist…minions don’t care
The man is a criminal…minions love him still
The man is in just and immoral…minions don’t care
The man will throw his very own children under the bus to save himself…minions don’t care
He demeans anyone that does not look like him or act the same…minions don’t care
The problem is his lies are minions facts and that is the sad thing
The man(Trump) is overall NOT a good person the most important character any and I mean ANY human can have is are you a good person overall are you? We know he is not and so does everyone around him …minions don’t care
The man is a rapist…minions don’t care
The man is a criminal…minions love him still
The man is in just and immoral…minions don’t care
The man will throw his very own children under the bus to save himself…minions don’t care
He demeans anyone that does not look like him or act the same…minions don’t care
The problem is his lies are minions facts and that is the sad thing
The man(Trump) is overall NOT a good person the most important character any and I mean ANY human can have is are you a good person overall are you? We know he is not and so does everyone around him …minions don’t care
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
black4white · 56-60, M
@SevIsPamprinYouAlways 100000% accurate
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@nudistsueaz I asked one leftist troll if they actually believed everything the mass establishment media and government told them, their response was to block me.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@NativePortlander1970 Oh yes, never let the facts mess-up a good lie.
@nudistsueaz Definitely
Northwest · M
So he may not be undertaking a genocide, but everything that comes out of his mouth, says "My highest ambition is to become a dictator and a tyrant", and during his term, he actually tried to put it into practice, but was held back by the Constitution. In his second term, he might be able to find additional Constitutional loopholes, to get what he wants.
We are neither a dictatorship nor a monarchy.
We are neither a dictatorship nor a monarchy.
Ynotisay · M
Or why do Americans who need enemies to blame for their own shit play the "fake news" card because that's what they've been fed like dogs? Bud. You couldn't pull one quote from a mainstream news outlet saying Trump is Hitler. If you hear anything along those lines it's opinion and it's coming from the VERY real fact that many machinations of the Nazi movement are mirroring what's playing out today. You know, mass manipulation through lies and nationalism.
Now as far as the hate that's very explainable. All it takes is some self-respect, empathy for others and the ability to to discern truth. Maybe that's you. Maybe that's not.
Now as far as the hate that's very explainable. All it takes is some self-respect, empathy for others and the ability to to discern truth. Maybe that's you. Maybe that's not.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
they're all complacent with the status quo, career politicians getting away with whatever they want; Trump not being one really mixed things up for them, putting the spotlight on their misdeeds and corruption. The people that oppose him all have something to hide, and certainly don't want to be exposed to their constituents for what they really are...
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
I don't believe that. I don't believe Biden is a Marxist or Socialist either.
I'm glad you are asking this question.
I believe the answer is because the system is so deathly afraid of him retaliating for what was done to him, and more importantly, like when he was elected in 2016, to show that in fact the people that run this country DO NOT CARE about its citizenry and their wants and desires. We are a tax base to be exploited, and a settled Western society to dump immigrants into.
I'm glad you are asking this question.
I believe the answer is because the system is so deathly afraid of him retaliating for what was done to him, and more importantly, like when he was elected in 2016, to show that in fact the people that run this country DO NOT CARE about its citizenry and their wants and desires. We are a tax base to be exploited, and a settled Western society to dump immigrants into.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
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Ynotisay · M
@Puppycat23 Presidential historians, who don't have a dog in the fight, are already listing him as one of the two or three worst Presidents in U.S. history. And that's based on accomplishments and actions.
So that makes it clear that his cult gives two shits about his performance. They just want to whine and yell about their made up enemies. That's what they've been fed and it's all that matters.
So that makes it clear that his cult gives two shits about his performance. They just want to whine and yell about their made up enemies. That's what they've been fed and it's all that matters.
bijouxbroussard · F
@Pinkstarburst The difference here is that Trump insists on speaking for himself.
(Who was it who said, "If you keep quiet, you can’t be misquoted" ?) 🤔
(Who was it who said, "If you keep quiet, you can’t be misquoted" ?) 🤔
black4white · 56-60, M
@Ducky I agree that you seem scared to voice your REAL thoughts… I don’t care if you or anyone is republican or democrat BUT when you try to over throw our country that is a whole new level of evil… ORANGEMAN can stop breathing for all I care which I don’t cus USA does not need his dictatorship attitude
black4white · 56-60, M
@Ducky His ancestors are immigrants yet he never try’s to do right by them YES I agree don’t do it illegally let’s find a way to make it happen rightfully…
And please don’t tell me about they take jobs cuz I see soooo many legal Americans that are too fricken lazy and milk the system just as bad
And please don’t tell me about they take jobs cuz I see soooo many legal Americans that are too fricken lazy and milk the system just as bad
Ducky · 31-35, F
@black4white Scared? Lol, you can think whatever you want, but I didn't comment just to get into any pointless exchanges and don't really care to either. Especially if you're just going to make ridiculous assessments like your first sentence. We're done here.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
Trump isn't anything unto himself — he's just a grifter, and a stupid one at that — but his cult views him as the tip of the spear in their goal to turn America into a neo-feudal, authoritarian, corporate theocracy. He has become a symbol, and if he cannot be held accountable for his actions and crimes, then we are doomed as a functional democracy.
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joe438 · 61-69, M
You’re right, the unsubstantiated claims are quite laughable. He’s no saint, probably not a nice guy and not the best businessman, but he tried harder to work within the system as President than Joe who had defied the SCOTUS and is being more dictatorial than Trump was.
I really wish we didn’t have to choose between these guys again. No one competent and likeable wants the job,
I really wish we didn’t have to choose between these guys again. No one competent and likeable wants the job,
SatyrService · M
[b]it is explainable[/b].. bad actions,, thousands of verifiable lies, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans due to his inaction. the abandonment of long term allies against the terrorists,theft of classified documents.. support of Putin, inciting a revolt against the government, the ridicule of Wounded servicemen.
what is to Like? @Neman1622
what is to Like? @Neman1622
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SteelHands · 61-69, M
[i][b]The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.[/b][/i] Frank Zappa
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black4white · 56-60, M
@BohemianBoo SPOT ON!!!!!
@SevIsPamprinYouAlways The [b][i]American[/i][/b] news media is GNN. The Goebbels News Network.
Kinda biased there, aren't you? How closed minded.
Kinda biased there, aren't you? How closed minded.
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
jehova · 31-35, M
Im also uncertain of the banter. Its hard to tell if its his stake in media companies and the any news being good news. (Everyone talking about him) is press. Or if it might be that he already died and itd be too much of a conspiracy to reveal.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
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needsmilk808 · 56-60, M
I would say there are plenty of people that are just full of hate and can’t be saved from themselves, all we can do is pray for them.
DiegoWolfe · 36-40
The hate is all because of how vocally antagonistic and brash he is
jehova · 31-35, M
They explained their hate? He hasnt.
BeepBeep · F
It’s an agenda
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uncalled4 · 56-60, M
It's simple American politics, take one side and blowtorch the other. It's not that different with anyone else.
bijouxbroussard · F
@uncalled4 Yeah, I used to think that, too. But I since encountered some exceptions. 🙁
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bijouxbroussard · F
@Longpatrol That’s probably even more accurate.
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