Why do Americans that believe CNN's (and the rest of mass media) lies think Trump is the new Hitler?

@Richard65 kinda like you then

@specman that makes no sense whatsoever, but I'm sure you're just butt hurt because of our previous conversation.

@Richard65 no you do exactly what you claim he does. Talking about the pot calling the kettle black

@specman Lol, whatever you say (or whatever someone else tells you to say).

@Richard65 tell your self what ever you need to to hang on to your false reality

@specman I imagine you say that to yourself in the mirror every morning.

@Richard65 [quote]You don't have to believe any media lies[/quote]

Then the rest of your comment is how you believe the media and how they present Trump to you.

@Richard65 no as a matter of fact I don’t.

@SumKindaMunster are you trying to say the media dubs Trump's speeches and uses Deep Fake imagery to put words into his mouth and manipulate his body language? I watched two hours of a live rally, where Trump just stood at the podium and ranted on like a guy with psychological problems. I've watched live interviews with him. I've literally watched the man speak with no edits. If you're trying to say the media manipulates such things, then you're just going to sound completely desperate, if not unhinged.

@Richard65 I know this is hard. Stay with me here....

What I am saying is that the media controls what you see and hear. You saw what they wanted you to see. Rantings? Psychological problems? Those are your personal opinions that you have chosen to have confirmed.

Do you believe Trump is a Russian spy?
Do you believe he called White Supremacists "fine people"?
Do you believe he told people to inject bleach into their veins?

None of those things happened, they were inventions of the media.

If it is not in your capacity to understand that the MEDIA manipulates you, I don't know what to tell you.

@SumKindaMunster you're making a completely different point, so try to stay with me. I'm saying you DON'T have to listen to media opinions. I don't. I watched his rallies and saw with my own eyes how insane the man clearly is. His rallies are filmed by Right Side Broadcasting, produced by noted Conservative Brian Glenn, who's also the partner of Majorie Taylor Greene. Are you saying HE presents a warped view of Trump? I've watched their coverage of Trump's rallies and they still show Trump has serious issues. I'm not manipulated by anything. I can see it all for myself. If I see a dog take a crap on my lawn, I don't need anyone to tell me he didn't, because the turd is clear for all to see.

@Richard65 I'm not making a different argument. You are still engaging in confirmation bias. Issues? You a trained psychiatrist? Medical doctor? You see what you want to see.

@SumKindaMunster ok, well I also think Biden does have memory issues and is too old to perform his office as POTUS to an adequate degree. So, using your own logic, my opinion is coloured by media influence and actually Joe Biden is an eminently suitable candidate for president and has no poor memory issues whatsoever. Do you agree?

@Richard65 It's not a binary argument Dick. Also your example makes no sense. You're not using [i]my[/i] logic here. It's not an all or nothing proposition.

@SumKindaMunster Lol, nice try. That's exactly your logic. The fact you called me Dick shows my point rattled you. You suggested my negative view of Trump cannot be trusted as I'm prone to media influence and I'm not a qualified psychologist, but you won't admit my negative view of Biden must also be wrong for the same reasons. Come back to me when you actually understand your own statements.

@Richard65 No Dick, but if you need to believe that, ok. Your example assumes there are only 2 ways to feel about Biden. It's not an all or nothing proposition.

I call you "Dick" cuz that's your name...wasn't it the British who came up with that nickname?

@SumKindaMunster yet you didn't say any of that about my criticism of Trump, but instead decided to hide behind it when I brought up the fallacy of your argument. Criticism of Trump means I've been manipulated by the media, but opinions on Biden are wide and varied with nuance and myriad interpretation.

@Richard65 Never said that second part Dick. Those are your words and beliefs. Do you understand the concept of confirmation bias? You confirm what you already believe. So your example re: Biden was not relevant because in your own words "but (my) opinions on Biden are wide and varied with nuance and myriad interpretation."

Yet you only have one interpretation of Trump and you go around confirming that with whatever you find that agrees with you.

Again, not a binary or all or nothing argument.

@SumKindaMunster so if I say Biden is unfit to be president, what's your answer to that opinion? Confirmation bias?

@Richard65 That's your opinion. Is it something you've felt strongly about for a long time? Do you go around looking for information to confirm that opinion and ignore/dismiss information that doesn't confirm that opinion? Then that might be confirmation bias....

@SumKindaMunster no, I like him as a human being, I think he's a decent man, from what I know about him. Yet he's too old and his memory clearly faulters, so I feel he isn't fit for the presidency. So where does your accusation of confirmation bias fit into that scenario?

@Richard65 If you are being honest right now, then it isn't confirmation bias in this circumstance. Are you now going to claim then that you don't engage in confirmation bias regarding Trump and his supporters? Cuz that is where I disagree with you.

@SumKindaMunster now you're creating a narrative to suit your statement, by suggesting I'm not being honest. I am being honest. I think Biden is a decent human who isn't fit to hold the office of POTUS. If you were right in your accusations, I'd have looked for evidence that Biden was fit and made a good president. But that's not the case. You're assuming my opinion of Trump was formed from media influence and confirmation bias, when you know I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinion using my own senses to watch Trump for myself, not through the media filter you suggest I'm influenced by. You make the mistake of thinking everyone simply forms an opinion by watching the news. Yet my opinions do not conform to your confirmation bias theory.

@Richard65 [quote]You don't have to believe any media lies, the guy is happy to spout his insane rants on camera during rallies and interviews. [/quote]

CNN will just show video of Trump talking about how he can do anything he wants as president, and his cult will defend him by saying CNN is biased.

@Richard65 It's not about honesty Dick. You're not consciously aware of engaging in confirmation bias unless you sit down and really contemplate how you feel and your actions regarding your feelings and beliefs.

My opinion of you engaging in confirmation bias is just that, an opinion.

However, that opinion is informed by reams and reams of observational data showing me how much you hate and despise Trump and his supporters. You know it, I know it.

Considering those strong feelings, you really expect me to believe you are looking at this with a neutral eye, open to information and ideas?

That's certainly not what you say...consistently...on here...again and again...all the time about Trump and his supporters.

[quote]when you know I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinion using my own senses to watch Trump for myself, not through the media filter you suggest I'm influenced by.[/quote]

I don't know that at all, and highly doubt that.