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revenant · F
France is in full lockdown again.
The economies are being decimated. Who is going to pay for all that ?
revenant · F
@Elessar there is a lot more in depth analyses to be made but you stick to the most simple answers.
dommagic · M
What do the in depth analysis say? And when you have a simple way that could possibly prevent ANY amount of death why not follow them?@revenant
Elessar · 26-30, M
@revenant Yeah, like on how [b]deeply [/b]moronic the entire western society has become. Freedumbs! And now all in lockdown again. But at least we didn't have to wear the muzzle in summer 😀🤦‍♂️

deadgerbil · 22-25
These people will crucify china for failing to contain the virus, yet when asked to wear a mask and socially distance, they cry about their 'freedumbs'.

Sucks that covid just doesn't exclusively affect them tbh.
deadgerbil · 22-25
@TexChik popularity doesn't necessarily correlate to intellectual honesty. My apologies if I came off as a whining snowflake, ma'am.
TexChik · F
@deadgerbil OMG, please. Conservatism is head and shoulders above any lib when it comes to honesty. 🤣🤣🤣 You must have lost your mind.
deadgerbil · 22-25
@TexChik there are some aspects of conservatism that I like, so I'm not entirely writing it off. In this particular context with respect to masks, I can't get behind it.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
The president did the right thing when he suspended all flights between US and China early on.

The Democrats and left leaning press lambasted him and called him racist for doing it and the Democrats did all they could to make the situation worse.

Pelosi went out and encouraged the street celebrations in her state.

The mayor of New York put elderly people that caught the virus into nursing homes.

The left leaning press encouraged "protestors."

Kamala Harris, bafflingly, went on record in an interview saying "the protests (civil unrest) won't and shouldn't stop no matter what.

I just came home from a really nice campaign rally for Trump. A huge pavilion outdoors. They passed out masks and had hand sanitizer stations. Personnel made sure everybody was wearing masks and there were all kinds of people there from young to the elderly.

I've been tested in the last seven days, and know people that have had it and gotten better.

Fear mongering isn't helping anything because it's important that we stay ahead of this thing and if we even slightly think we got it we should check. Then get medical attention right away.

I don't think we can avoid it by hiding in our houses anymore because it's working its way through the population at this point.

All of us of every age and stripe will likely sooner or later have to face this. My daughter's had it and recovered. A positive outlook is almost as important as a good immune system.

Statements like "we are strong" and "we will beat this thing" are not the message we are getting from Biden. The Biden strategy is fear..."Dark winter, we're dying of this" ...

The president and his wife recovered. I hope I do whenever I end up getting it too. I'm being careful, and so should you. Don't touch your face wash hands keep a clean screen and wear a mask around others.

That's the best thing, I think, to do.

So stay strong and be like brave Americans. Don't let the fear or the fear mongering politicians do any more damage than they already have.

I'm voting for Trump.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@SteelHands Your cheap school girl insults probably earned you some popularity points... in middle school. It doesn't mean much... even if you're transmitting from Hidin' Sleepy Baby-trump's America.

In any case, playing the "age card" is the ultimate sign of desperation. You are sinking fast, Scooter.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@MarkPaul typical democrat response
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Jake966 Als, an honest states attorney would be nice.

This deep state swamp thing. It's far worse than even I first believed.
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
Man, just look at all the naysayers on this post who still don't get it, after 7-8 months of this thing 🤷🏾‍♂️. COVID is not going away until we all work together to do our part the best we can 🤷🏾‍♂️.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SubstantialKick The deniers are strong in their denials, since facts have no meaning compared to what they are being told to believe without facts.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
England's going back into lockdown.
It's the only way to halt this.
Most sensible countries are!!
🍿 🍷
Confined · 56-60, M
@windinhishair they report repertory disease deaths (aka covid) at 150k not 200k
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Confined Yes, the listing absolutely indicates "repertory" disease deaths at 159,486. Can you explain how these data, which the listing clearly indicates are for 2018, apply to covid deaths in 2020?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Loads of Trump supporters on here using increasingly desperate arguments to defend the indefensible. I mean sports leagues have no crowds but Trump rallies are ok? Perhaps a MAGA hat can make you immune and a NY Yankees cap can't.

One argument put forward is the decline in death rate. This is because high risk people are shielding more its not because Covid stopped being deadly.

The lockdown vrs economy arguments are similarly redundant. The economies which are in the best economic health are those with the strictest lockdown rules. There is no good reason for Germany - which got covid early, has higher populalation density than America and shares land borders with many countries - to be doing so much better.

I wonder: Do Trump supporters even really believe their own arguments? Are they prepared to suspend disbelief and forgive any mistakes in defense of their icon?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 They have to believe.. Its an act of faith and America is a deeply religious country out of the big cities.😷
deadgerbil · 22-25
@Burnley123 trumpists seem to be very similar to flat earthers, except a lot more rabid. They use misleading arguments and can't even acknowledge even the most objective pieces of information.

Even definitions of words are used to justify their bad arguments. I had one on here try to play a game of semantics over whether or not masks and social distancing prevent transmission.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
What is the survival rate?
QuietEd2019 · 31-35, M
@MrBrownstone medical journals should be enough but you probably need empirical evidence but your attitude towards it is like Trumps so you are likely to get the virus eventually as you probably refuse a mask and are happy to attend close quarters rallies for your idol so when you get it will you believe how debilitating and devastating it can be even if you survive?
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@QuietEd2019 once you equate a virus to politicians you lost the argument
QuietEd2019 · 31-35, M
@MrBrownstone I was equating your attitude to a politicians not the virus 😑 nice try but you are clutching at straws
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Lets be fair.. Not Republicans.. Just the Right Wing Mouth Breathing Knuckle dragging Trump Supporters. They have to stand close to groom each other.. Its a social reinforcement thing.😷
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
They think they are being cool... until the ones who are forced to say goodbye to loved ones via FaceTime because of their contamination. It's like the middle school kids who smoke... until they wake up one day in the future with tubes shoved down their throat helping them to breathe. Then... and only then... they no longer feel cool.

The thing is, at that point... and only then... they acknowledge it wasn't worth it.
Confined · 56-60, M
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
Heart disease: 655,381 (Not a single shut down)
Cancer: 599,274 (no shut downs over this)
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 167,127
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 159,486
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 147,810
Alzheimer’s disease: 122,019
Diabetes: 84,946
Influenza and Pneumonia: 59,120
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 51,386
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 48,344 (This number has doubled this year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
Northwest · M
@Confined Holy shit man! Thanks for posting this. So why didn’t they shut the country down after so many heart attacks? And for that matter the world.

Is this heart attack information available to the public? Wow. Thanks again.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Northwest Who knew that people were dying all over the place? And of so many things, too!
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Confined science is hard

I get it

Let me know if you need me to explain this.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-19-is-now-the-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-u-s1/
Confined · 56-60, M
Covid was a man made virus. It was weaponized. No amount of lockdown or social distencing will ever wipe it out. Even Dr. Death says every person on the face of the planet will eventually get covid 19. Hopefully not all at the same time. There are more then 30 strains, so a vaccine will be of little value. The immunity to one strain only lasts a few months at best.
There is nothing more Trump or dr failure could do.
Confined · 56-60, M
@Northwest you mean CNN the communist news net work debunked it? This was a weapon of war.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Confined no you dumb fuck.

Scientists around the world debunked it

I’m sure AONN AND Brietbart disagree with this assessment
Northwest · M
@Confined [quote]you mean CNN the communist news net work debunked it? This was a weapon of war.[/quote]

No dummy

https://apnews.com/article/afs:Content:9391149002

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-scientists-think-of-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-lab-rumour

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lab-manmade-myth-debunked-2020-6

https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/sns-nyt-chinese-virologist-covid-19-misinformation-distortions-20200918-kgxjktkl5ne4nhxcfdxmzjxkbm-story.html
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
Let's Cross Our Fingers & Pray That Trump Dosent Win
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Did you fuss when Antifa and BLM were gathered en masse to raise hell in cities all over America
TexChik · F
@cherokeepatti of course they didnt. Libtards dont spread covid...Trump does 🙄
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@JoeyFoxx oh really..
CestManan · 46-50, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout and this may seem a logical but this is, the Twilight Zone.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout
But don’t allow facts to get in the way of your silly narratives

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm
JeanAnna · F
It's sad that they are believing Trump, even though thousands are dying. But when it hits home, just maybe, just maybe they will wake up and realize he lied to them.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@JeanAnna Last night on one of the networks, they were interviewing a woman at one of Trump's Adoration/SuperSpreader events, without a mask, standing in line packed in with a bunch of other maskless people. She had lost her FATHER to covid earlier this year, but she STILL doesn't believe it poses a problem that requires her to social distance or wear a mask.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@windinhishair stupid is as stupid does .
JeanAnna · F
@windinhishair Another crazy Trumper.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@TwistedSister Didn't read the Mueller Report either, did you? That's not surprising. Hannity had the "facts" you were told to believe.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@TwistedSister Now you've proven you never read it. Especially the part where Mueller laid out ten separate examples of obstruction of justice, and stated that he could [b]not[/b] exonerate Trump. You're a great cultist and Trump apologist.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
Maybe we should just lock all you paranoid mysophobic shitbags up in an underground bunker somewhere... we'll let you out after it's all over.... 😏
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
@wildbill83 Or maybe we should just let all you who think it's fake just catch the darn virus and die at this point. I think the world would be better off without you stupid idiots 🤷🏾‍♂️.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@SubstantialKick don't hold your breath... on second thought, please do... 🤔
And what is even worse is that people who have a severe case of it drop up to 8.5 IQ points.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@canusernamebemyusername You have no idea how hard I am struggling to keep my hands off that.......😷
AaaSam4 · 41-45, F
That is a HUGE number and shocking too 😐. Yes apparently the Republicans are that DUMB AND DESPERATE. Who goes to a rally with so many people there and NOT WEAR a mask? Especially when they know Trump has COVID 19. ..
justanothername · 51-55, M
@AaaSam4 that number will be bigger tomorrow
AaaSam4 · 41-45, F
@justanothername oh grief! Let's pray they WAKE UP!
Northwest · M
They are willing to die for the cause.
Confined · 56-60, M
48,344 deaths from self harm in 2020 so far. Heart disease 655,381 in 2020.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
1,300,000 road/crash fatalities per year...
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@Confined 600,000 deaths due to cancer per year
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@wildbill83 now do medical malpractice. I have a strong feeling that it has played a role in the number of Covid deaths
Trump didn't want to cause a panic so he lied to protect us, and he still is. "There are two things that are infinite the Universe and the stupidity of people, and I'm not so sure about the Universe." Albert Einstein
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
yep they are that dumb.. really.. seriously! They have to be to vote for Trump and to believe all his lies..

If it just sticks to dimwits that's ok.. but unfortunately the idiots will go out and infect others :(
cycleman · 61-69, M
My sarcasm hopes they'll be too ill to get out to vote, plus Trumps antics in making the votes to be more challenging will hurt Trump the most.
nedkelly · 61-69, M
Show he the FACTS and FIGURES, or is another Democrat bullshit made up story
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@nedkelly Stanford did a study. But we all know what a hot bed of leftist culture they are Right?
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@whowasthatmaskedman Stanford was a clown show way back
Maybe trump should defund testing.. then cases would drop.. 🤓

More testing = more cases.

Now. Let’s discuss death/recovery rates?
Elessar · 26-30, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout If you think that NOT testing and ignoring the situation altogether is going to solve things you're really beyond delusional. You'll sinmply have zero official cases, with overwhelmed hospitals by people who go there hypoxic and mass graves in any and every town or county with more than 10,000 inhabitants. But hey, zero official cases! 🤦‍♂️
NoahB · 26-30, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Your recovery plan was not testing lol
Elessar · 26-30, M
@NoahB I drive my car without tires on, this way they'll never get flat, unlike those libtards'.

Sort of.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
And to think this time last year the topic was gun deaths
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@MarineBob And if everyone had stayed home and isolated there probably would have been more of those.😷
TexChik · F
According to who? Fake news does not fly
justanothername · 51-55, M
Tomorrow there will be more than 110,000 new cases of Covid across the US on top of the existing 100,000 from today.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@justanothername I wont argue with that. I have said before that the way this works may be a way of raising the Average IQ with a cull of the stupid. Who said Darwinism was bunk?😷
justanothername · 51-55, M
@whowasthatmaskedman the only problem is that stubborn conservative Republicans infect everyone around them too.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@justanothername Yes.. Which is why EVERYONE needs to wear a mask. They do help a lot. Particular if both parties are wearing them. Stops them spreading it even if they dont know they have it and stops you getting it.😷
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
They were sticking people in the hospital here a month ago telling them they suspected COVID without testing first. Same time that we were have poor air quality day’s due to extremely high ozone levels combined with high levels of ragweed, cedar pollen etc.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@cherokeepatti Sounds like an EPA issue. If not the announcements, then the air quality itself. Here our lockdown has cut air and surface traffic to a trickle and the air is cleaner than usual.😷
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@whowasthatmaskedman Keep arguing. You just lost. It’s about telling the truth to the public.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@cherokeepatti I was not arguing.. Just highlighting our obviously vastly different experiences of this thing. 😷
Azlotto · M
[quote]30,000 more people contract Covid 19 after attending Trump support rally’s[/quote]

Source, please.
Azlotto · M
@windinhishair More insults...Thank you. Can I have another one, champ?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Azlotto You can only handle a small number. Otherwise, your brain capacity is exceeded and it goes into standby mode.
Azlotto · M
@windinhishair That's a great insult. I don't think you could do any better.
SW-User
Sometimes I wonder how some of these supporters who attended Trump’s rallies feel when they find out they caught the virus that they thought was a hoax or not a big deal.
SW-User
@MrBrownstone Nope it’s right. Reason? Because Trump supporters think covid is a hoax, along with other crazy conspiracy theories stated by Trump and republican media. Which is why I wonder how do they feel when they find out they caught the very virus they thought was a hoax.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@SW-User Let me guess CNN told you
SW-User
@MrBrownstone It’s more of observation rather than watching CNN which I hardly watch anyway. It’s not difficult to realize that what a leader such as a president says holds weight and followers will listen and do or repeat what that leader says which is what Trump supporters are doing.

Trump refuses to wear a mask; his supporters don’t wear a mask, he attacks scientists for contradicting him; they attack scientists for contradicting him, etc. Even in the comments Trump supporters are in denial or make excuses of how bad coronavirus is because Trump is doing the same thing.
Rose0415 · 36-40, F
I'm just looking at some of these comments like...
Confined · 56-60, M
The left wing media claim this, but it does not make it so.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@Confined its a fact provided by doctors who treat Covid patients, the majority of which will have been dumbass Republicans who attended Trump rallies.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@Confined how close do you sit to your work colleagues?
justanothername · 51-55, M
@Confined The irony is that nobody “has” to get COVID-19 and nobody wants to get Covid 19 but dumb ass Republicans are lining up droves to get it.
But not the rioters and looters..
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout If its something they agree with then covid doesn't spread
Human1000 · M
A juicy stew of quasi-fascists and morons.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Human1000 eewww...............
Confined · 56-60, M
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 159,486 <<<this includes all covid deaths. 159 Not 200K+
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Confined Hawaii was the last state of our current 50.
James Buchanan was the president before Lincoln. He is currently dead like over 230,000 Americans who have died this year from Covid-19.
dommagic · M
Oh that’s much better @Confined
Jake966 · 56-60, M
Are college students dumb too ? Apparently so
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@samueltyler2 I’m asking because the stupid college kids in my area have off campus parties and a bunch always come down with COVID .
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Jake966 they may be in college, but never studied Darwin!
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@samueltyler2 oh that’s idiot ?
How did they find out it was from the rally ?
@SteelHands Where did you get that 87% - i want to look it up.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@SteelHands I hope so !
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Jake966 The left is so desperate at this point they're openly admitting they're willing to cheat.

While accusing us and the man who speaks from his heart how he loves the land of the free home of the brave of being deplorables?

The left is beating people up for saying they support the current president and threatening to storm the white house? I'm hearing them threaten even that now?

That's not done in a free society. Those people don't deserve a single vote. Nobody with any common sense would vote for Evil people like that.

It would be better if we just let them burn themselves up in their own hatred. There's way way more of us than the anarchists that the Democrats wan't to vote for Biden.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@IstillmissEP You may well get your wish.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@IstillmissEP I pray that when the time comes, that will come true for you.
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justanothername · 51-55, M
@PainfulTruth CNBC and Stanford U.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@justanothername actually, it came from CDC.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@samueltyler2 ok CDC then. It’s still unnecessary infections and deaths.
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
With this people, nothing is real until it affects them.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@DunningKruger even then it’s not real.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
George Floyd had Covid should his death be amended to covid
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@MarineBob No. Homicide covers it just fine.
Doomflower · 36-40, M
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I’ve noticed that it’s only a select few who still push the 200k dead line..

after the CDC amended that number to 6%..
due to ppl dying and being labeled covid victims.. Even tho it was most likely the bullet that shot them.. etc etc
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PSuss1 · 51-55, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout [b]excess[/b] deaths (i.e. deaths [b]above[/b] the numbers expected through other causes) from late Jan thru 3 Oct were 300k (which actually suggests a bit of an undercount on Covid deaths, but let's not get hung up on that) ...the whole "nobody dies of anything else any more" line is nonsense, the 225k Covid deaths are above and beyond the other "normal" causes of death.

Putting it as simply as I can, around 2.8m people die in the US each year, this year it will be over 3m.

The 2.8m will still die from other causes, but on top of that there will be an additional 250k+ due to Covid.

Do you understand?

 
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