Can someone tell me why ILLEGAL immigrants SHOULDN'T be removed?

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration proposed a rule on Wednesday night intended to prevent undocumented immigrants from receiving federal housing assistance, the latest step in its efforts to ramp up enforcement of the nation’s immigration laws.

The proposal, according to an administration official, is intended to overturn what the official described as a Clinton-era loophole that allowed some undocumented immigrants to obtain public housing without revealing their citizenship status. The rule would ensure that the social safety net is awarded only to verified American citizens and legal residents.

The long waiting lists for public housing prompted the crackdown, the official said, adding that the rule would affect about 25,000 households.

@winchesterbros Same topic, just worded a bit disingenuously.

But it’s the same stuff, really - the mixed household “loophole” that lets legal residents in a mixed-status familes receive housing assistance (prorated to cover only eligible residents).

@Abrienda I sure would agree with you on that. If not she should prove it by getting verified. I know you are very loving generous smart and lovely young woman for sure.

Well Harriet? @Abrienda @LTKISS

@jackjjackson Harry, you mean.

@winchesterbros What if the drug in question is ethyl alcohol?

"Although immigration has occurred throughout American history, large-scale immigration has occurred during just four peak periods: the peopling of the original colonies, westward expansion during the middle of the 19th century, and the rise of cities at the turn of the 20th century. The fourth peak period began in the 1970s and continues today." https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/immigration-united-states-new-economic-social-political-landscapes-legislative-reform this started under jimmy carter.

@winchesterbros I guess you slept through the Reagan years.

@winchesterbros I appreciate the rule of law argument - but most people “doing it right” understand perfectly well that a) the immigration system is capricious and arbitrary, obviously put together and run by xenophobic assholes, and b) illegals don’t play any role in the process and aren’t taking anything away from those of us who went through it.

@winchesterbros so your own bias view you were stating was what you got off of the mueler report and not something that was stated else where.

Yes he does..why else would he in front of the worlds press, dismiss the entire American intel apparatus (and all of NATO allies) and accept Putin's denial that Russia had interfered in the elections? Why dose (In his own words) love Kim Jong Un? Both despots responsible for the murder of dissedents and in some cases their own family members. Putin has journalists framed or murdered..Trump today joking with Putin at the G20 that Putin doesn't have a problems with 'fake news'; Of course he doesn't..He has them killed.





Another European Country? As in one that does view NK and Russian despots with suspicion and not suck up to them?

@winchesterbros

Oh bless, you didn't have enough room to mention the bit about the Trump campaign encouraging the Russians, or the bit about Manafort telling a Russian oligarch and close Putin associate poll numbers. You also had no room to mention Flynn having phone calls with Putin's people before the inauguration to tell him sanctions would be lifted, imposed because of Russia invading Ukraine.. Oh, and DAG Sally Yates reported that Flynn was a security risk (As did Obama) but Trump still employed him.

And maybe you can throw some light on why Kushner (Who was denied a security clearance by the FBI AND the CIA because he's a security risk) would need a private 'back channel' that was housed in the Russian embassy?

@HerKing Trump doesn’t hate America. None of our presidents do. He probably loves it the least of any of them - but that is mostly because his outrageous level of narcissism leaves him with a diminished capacity for love altogether.

@winchesterbros Here is the NPR take:
But isn’t it funny how your article omits any mention of these details. That’s what I mean by spin.

no anyone was given assistance as they werent required to ask for citizenship or show proof. that was the loop hole

@winchesterbros Of course not. NPR is a good source, they’re not lying. Your source isn’t lying either - they’re just omitting.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

@Brianthesnail You can't be serious being 50 plus years old with that mentality. There are laws, regulations and boundaries in today's world that we must recognize and adhere to.

Passports were introduced early 20th century.
In Brunei, they recently introduced stoning to death as a punishment for being homosexual
In today's world, let's just accept these laws, regulations and boundaries without complaining
I feel we must do it because I'm passive-submissive

@artistinresidence they are illegal. they came in illegally

@artistinresidence same thing and if the government helped our own as much as they do the illegal ones we would be far better of and more citizens would be working. I personally am disgusted that a large part of my taxes pay for these people to get more assistance than people born here.

@redredred of course not. They are not imported. They have escaped like you and yours escaped to come to US. Migration always creates chaos. And yes there will be resistance but don’t lose hope on humanity. If we cannot or will not legally open our doors to them, at least we can show empathy otherwise. I had two women here going crazy about my post. One an Eastern European, sitting where the right-wing parties are feeding people with fear about immigrants and people are entering the Nazi-crazed mentality of 1930’s. That is not the solution. I hope you agree that unwanted guests does not merit gas chambers. The other had your argument that 1000 migrants will become millions.. your concern is not dumb or selfish. It is a real concern and I respect that but I still think that a desperate child sitting behind bars somewhere in this vast country needs our help.

@Artistworkingalone When mine came, one side of my family fought in every war this country has ever had including the revolution. The other side paid its own way here and waited patiently for the Ellis Island process to be complete and then entered to find work. None of them collected welfare.

The ones who fought in the Revolution didnt flee their home but fought to improve it. The ones who left poverty did so on their own dime, observed the legal process and asked for nothing but admittance.

@IstillmissEP THanks for showing this.

@IstillmissEP 😂😂

send his wife home.. she came illegally.. @IstillmissEP

@redredred We don’t typically pail people for misdemeanor crimes.

@redredred The quickest way to stop illegal immigration is to stop their illegal employment. Since employing an illegal immigrant involves tax and labor violations, not to mention a threat to American security-- how about minimum mandatory federal imprisonment for American citizens who employ them?

@CopperCicada I agree 100%

Central Europe hmmm. You wouldn't be a supporter of asshole Orban , I hope ?
Just a wild guess

@Brianthesnail

There is no point in continuing with an ignoramus whom I have so intellectually humiliated that all he has left in his mental arsenal is childish name calling and whose knowledge of Central Europe* could be put into a thimble and still have room left over. I must say though your username is appropriate...a snail surely represents your intelligence and probably physical appearance as well.

Since you are incapable of replying to me intelligently I suggest you go slime your way back to whatever log or rock you crawled out from under.

But your bruised ego can take comfort in the fact I have no intention of replying. Bye-bye, loser.👋


*I am surprised you even knew where it is. You must have Googled it, yet nevertheless failed to notice Hungary and the Czech Republic are not the same country.

Again why would you assume that I am not a native of Central Europe ?
You really have no fucking clue.
Admittedly most people would not consider Hungary as Central Europe (unless you happened to be Hungarian!)

But there are not so many fascists with anti-immigrant policies in Central Europe.

No bigger one than you!👍🏻@jackjjackson

All right that’s fair 😂 @Texasgurl

As long as we are on the same page.@jackjjackson

Hi ma’am. Cheers 🥃 @TexChik

That is another accurate one! @IstillmissEP

@Bodymindsoul Nah... he's just trying to become popular.

@MarkPaul your dismissed

@Bodymindsoul Yeah, but...

@QuixoticSoul Youre the one being obtuse intentionally ignoring the glaringly obvious. This is all about voter fraud and you know it. Thats why no democrat is clamoring to bring Venezualan immigrants into the US. those suckers wont vote for socialists.

@redredred Imagine being this much of an idiot 😂

@QuixoticSoul @IstillmissEP Just get some .gov sources and you should be covered

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow EXACTLY

@HootyTheNightOwl I tried 🤷

Do they pay you in cash that you don’t report?

I usually ask for a 50% deposit by bank transfer and the rest can be in cash. I declare it anyway.
Why do you ask?
If you are interested in a nice vacation rent let me know, you will have nice neighbors.

Next to a shit and needle pile in SF? Tempting 😂 @Brianthesnail

@winchesterbros https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states

@JaggedLittlePill , asylum seekers can apply only if they are physically present in the United States (or at least at a U.S. border or other point of entry). they dont have to come into the US to file for asylum. asylum is different then running away from police and hiding.

@Cabernetfranc love that. It really shows how ridiculous are the anti-immigration "Americans"

That’s on the dems. They hope keeping the illegals here on any pretext for any period of time may help the dems. @CopperCicada

@winchesterbros I think there are some basic concepts that you cannot grasp. The difference between owning property and right of abode .
It's like the difference between the concepts of speed and bacon, i.e. Not related
In the country where I choose to live, I own no land. It is not a requirement . I pay rent

Did you go to school?

speed and bacon. lol guess you didnt go to school. no concept of anything. try going to any other country without permission. when you are born you are born into that citizenship. you have rights under that citizenship you dont have rights under any other country. you seem to have no clue about how the world works. you cant freely go where you want. why each country is different. why they have their own laws that their citizens have to abide by. each country is bound to protect itself. that way it isnt taken over by another country or a large group of individuals. because thats invasion.

I have achieved legal residence in 4 countries
Do you speak with more experience ?

@DonaldTrumpet Best Answer !

If they’re illegal remove them, but treat them like they’re still human at least not something evil. As Americans we are supposed to be better than that. @winchesterbros

how do you handle 100,000s that invade in a short period of time humanly?

wall @winchesterbros

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow So much for honest debate.

@Budwick I am not the one claiming to be holier than thou and then proving otherwise.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow So, it's not WHAT I said that bothers you,

But rather your dislike for me.

Do you make a lot of decisions that way?

Fact: you’re an odious foreigner Fatrick @PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

@jackjjackson Relevant facts and random trivia are not the same thing.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow