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Curiosity13 · 56-60, M

I think parts of it were fake.
Like not sharing with the public that the moon is actually made out of cheese, and that’s where we’ve been getting all of our cheese from since 1969, because it tastes out of this world 😋
@Ghostinthemachine Right!! Wallace and Gromit PROVED the cheese hypothesis!!

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Wensleydale??
Zaphod42 · 51-55, M
My sister once assured me the moon landings were faked. I asked her how many close friends she had. Five, maybe six she said. I asked how many of those she would trust to take a monumental secret of hers to the grave without ever telling anyone. None, she said.
There were over 400,000 people involved in the moon landings, and not a single one has ever come forward to say it was faked 🤷‍♂
helenS · 36-40, F
@22Michelle Yes that's how it works. 😐
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@22Michelle same with the 2020 election; but that’s a whole other story 😜
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Zaphod42

Yup, that's the same conclusion I came to. Too many involved, and not one whistle blower.
No. I know personally people who were involved in the programme.
in10RjFox · M
@SW-User there is nobody in Antartica.. so no proof.
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@in10RjFox So, no proof means that they actually went there. In the same way that no proof the moon landing was faked means that it was, right?
in10RjFox · M
@SW-User just a hypothesis
As Neil DeGrasse Tyson has pointed out, it would probably be harder to fake the moon landing and get all the details correct as they have... including all the calculations, photos and videos which they still have not been able to successfully find clear faults in...

It probably harder to fake all that, then to actually successful complete the mission and do it for real.
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@Ferise1 That's why you insult yourself
Maybe someday you'll grow up and learn how to be a man.
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walabby · M
Was it faked? NOT A CHANCE!
I watched and listened to the whole mission from start to finish.
Anyway, the USSR monitored the mission and would have been delighted to declare it fake.
It was real...
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Ferise1 The computing tech and communications are magic now.. But we still use chemical reaction motors to get the stuff up into the air and through space. Its way too heavy and way too slow..We need a different way of driving the whole thing. While those ideas are around, they dont work properly. An idea like cold fusion could set us on the path to the outer planets and stars.😷
@Ferise1
why can’t they go back today?

Who says they can't? As soon as you pay for the budget, they'll get right on it...

It's not that they can't... it's a, no one wants to fund it, as they don't believe they'll be getting enough money in return.

Heck, I believe they have said the Chinese are in the moon right now... some suggest they have mining helium 3 or something like that, which can be used for nuclear fuel or something like that.
walabby · M
@Ferise1 Been there, done that. Besides, it costs a lot of money, and the US government is spending a lot of money giving tax cuts to billionaires...
DrWatson · 70-79, M
No I do not.

swirlie · 31-35, F
@DrWatson
What's that photo suppose to mean? Just because you drank the Kool-Aide, doesn't mean you were given a side-order of truth to go along with it, you know!
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@DrWatson It looks like the moon is very windy, notice the flag?
swirlie · 31-35, F
@Diotrephes
wires... like they use in women's bras... that's what makes American flags fly.
Allelse · 36-40, M
No. Humans can do a lot of incredible things, but keep a secret like that? Hah! As if.
Allelse · 36-40, M
@swirlie What I said.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@Allelse
What did you say that was relevant to what I said?
Allelse · 36-40, M
@swirlie Humans cant keep secrets.
calicuz · 56-60, M
I'm still conducting my own investigation. 🕵🏼
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@calicuz Let's go check it out ourselves
calicuz · 56-60, M
@JimboSaturn

Right?!!!
Deserthiker · 61-69, M
Now you did it!!! The freaks come out!!! LSD, psilocybin, peyote, ayahuasca, aliens(space) the luminati, Atlanteans, pyramids, Nicoli Tesla, Kruschev, Kennedy, LBJ , Nixon, Gene Roddenberry, Hollywood and many more are all part of or used in the conspiracy.
Deserthiker · 61-69, M
@swirlie @swirlie Buzz Aldrine from above.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@22Michelle I struggle to think of a less appropriate product placement..😷
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@SnickersDOM

I never said I was, I I just said feel free to block me. 🫢
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@JimboSaturn Fairydust/@SW-User believes that she is a "free thinker". However, she needs to know that you are not a free thinker if you just automatically believe the opposite of what "MSM" or "authority" tells you.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
Who took the film of Armstrong climbing down the ladder and setting foot on the moon if he was the first man on the moon!?
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@ArishMell Oh I believe the moon landings took place. There's just a few anomalies in some of the pictures and movies that don't make sense.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Nitedoc Ah, I'm sorry if I misinterpreted you.

The charge that no-one could have photographed Neil Armstrong climbing down the ladder could simply be answered by that not being Armstrong but his fellow-astronaut (Aldrin?) photographed by Armstrong. Either that or the pair of them re-staged it. You can't tell who is inside that suit and helmet unless he is wearing a clearly-visible name-badge, likely on the chest.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@ArishMell It's my understanding there was a camera, well-mountes to the lander module frame, that took the iconic moon landing first steps movies by remote from inside the craft.
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It wasn’t faked. If it was, why would several more “fake” missions to the moon be made?
Adrift · 61-69, F
@SW-User Its actually like those green horn safaris they take people on in Africa.
Drive around a termite mound a couple of times and point out a few stuffed animals off in the distance.
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LordShadowfire · 51-55, M
@SW-User I just love it that everybody who is arguing with you has already blocked me. The trash definitely took itself out.
It was real. Among other things, the Apollo astronauts left a bank of retroreflectors on the moon. A powerful laser plus a decent telescope is all it takes to independently detect your own laser light bouncing off that reflector. These guys did it, and you can too.


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1234cardiff · 61-69, M
@Nitedoc see Zaphod42 comments I believe her story
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Yes the moon landing was fake, we’ve never been to the moon.
HumanEarth · F
We never left the Earth Atmosphere
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SW-User
No, I don't. But believing things like that are faked is more about personal identity than it is about science.
England66 · 61-69, M
@SW-User
Its one of those questions that won't go away
But it did look good on the old black and white tv
helenS · 36-40, F
Yes it was certainly faked, because the Earth is flat and gravity does not exist.
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helenS · 36-40, F
@meJess Exactly. Things do not fall because of gravity. They fall down because they have a natural tendency to fall.
Ils sont fous ces scientifiques! 🤪
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* puts on tinfoil hat*
hunkalove · 70-79, M
@SW-User I haven't taken mine off since 1969.
helenS · 36-40, F
@hunkalove Your remark reminds me of Lewis Grizzard's excellent (albeit a bit conservative) book "I Haven't Understood Anything Since 1962" 😏
hunkalove · 70-79, M
@helenS I like his title, Elvis Is Dead and I Don't Feel Too Good Myself. And his quote about marriage, that the next time he feels like getting married he would just find a woman he hates and buy her a house.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
No - but I have often wondered the motive of those determined to insist it was.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire OK - thank you for explaining it. I do respect proper techncial terms but tend to be wary of jargon!

Yes, a contradiction indeed. We are all unique as individuals but are herd creatures so do match those around us, and try to fit in with them, in many ways; but I think the conspiracy types must take that to extremes.
Magenta · F
@ArishMell YW. But yes sometimes things get lost in translation. 🙃
Ideation is defo a real word/meaning... It's 'the formation of ideas and concepts'. Ego plays a large part.

But I think he makes some interesting points. And about 'vulnerable narcissism'.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Magenta Vulnerable narcissism? I suppose a lot of narcissists are really rather weak, preferring to be told what to think without questioning it, but hiding this behind their outwards behaviour.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Mom work on electrical insulator parts between all the Gemini, Apollo and even space shuttle missions.
turbineman40 · 80-89, M
No the landing did happen.
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@ArishMell The camera was attached to an arm that swung down on to the lunar surface, and Aldrin worked the camera while Armstrong stepped down.
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@whowasthatmaskedman naturally :D
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SW-User There is something about Americans and conspracy theories. they cant even believe when they do something amazing..😷
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Yes, I've noticed that rather curious trait too. It does seem only Americans who try to deny spectacular American successes like manned landings on the Moon!
in10RjFox · M
Quite possible it was a Truman Show.
Dutchess · 18-21, F
Yes, just based on the radiation from Van Allen belts.
Dutchess · 18-21, F
@LordShadowfire we have rovers on mars couldn't a rover have planted the flag? Just saying
LordShadowfire · 51-55, M
@Dutchess Why is that somehow more plausible to you than the idea of a human crewed craft? We're talking about 1969. Computer technology was nowhere near advanced enough to safely land a ship on the moon, let alone run a robot with wheels across its surface. You are making no sense.
@Dutchess says
including the unpredictable nature of space radiation,

the radiation within the Van Allen belts is highly variable and influenced by sunspots. Specifically, the activity of sunspots and other solar events, like solar flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs), can directly affect the strength and shape of these radiation belts

Furthermore,
Apollo missions generally went during periods of relatively low sunspot activity, or at least during periods when no major solar events were predicted. The reasoning was to minimize the risk of space radiation exposure for the astronauts.

Furthermore,
Apollo astronauts did wear radiation monitors similar to those used by X-ray technicians. They used personal dosimeters to measure the cumulative radiation dose each astronaut received during the mission. These dosimeters were designed to record the amount of radiation the astronauts were exposed to during their time in space.

Measured radiation dosage across all missions: From 0.16 rads (Apollo 8) to 1.14 rads (Apollo 14); averaging .46 rads. The highest dosage is equivalent to about two CT scans.
Magenta · F
Of course not.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Absolutely. No way a phone call could be made from earth to moon.
LordShadowfire · 51-55, M
@SW-User https://www.iop.org/explore-physics/moon/how-do-we-know-we-went-to-the-moon

https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/space-astronomy/moon-landing-conspiracy-theories-debunked

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/moon-landing/

https://www.popsci.com/proof-moon-landing-not-fake/

https://www.fastcompany.com/90375425/apollo-11-landed-moon-how-you-can-be-sure-sorry-conspiracy

https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/28172/how-do-we-know-the-apollo-moon-landings-are-real

https://starwalk.space/en/news/was-the-moon-landing-fake

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/10/one-giant-lie-why-so-many-people-still-think-the-moon-landings-were-faked
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@magenta

Haha me delusional, at least I don’t go around here harassing people like you do.

Can’t leave me alone can you, for years now you’ve came after me.

you always got to be there having ya sly digs at me.
Magenta · F
FYI.. my comments on this thread were directed towards Mr. Brownstone and a couple others that chimed in. That's who's response I/we are commenting on, duh. I responded before anyone else even showed up.

Never once directed a comment towards you "specifically" as I couldn't even see yours, lol. Of all the commentary here and you came and chose to accuse mine. Leave me be!
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
Where is the flag of usa that was planted on moons surface? I couldn't see with a telescope.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@OriginalDumbMan I do applaud you for your intelligent choice of username.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
swirlie · 31-35, F
@OriginalDumbMan
...it's right here... I did a screen shot of it...




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Tracos · 56-60, M
Google used their Veo4 model at the time
swirlie · 31-35, F
@Tracos
Very funny!
@Tracos I didn't know Google managed to get time travel working yet 😲 It was founded in 1998.
LordShadowfire · 51-55, M
@NerdyPotato As far as you know, they were founded in 1998. But the truth is, they were founded in 2077 by Isaac Google, who also invented time travel.
craig7 · 70-79, M
There were two moon landings in 1969,not just one - then two more in both 1971 and 1972.
Faked by Skeletor and Winnie the Pooh.
helenS · 36-40, F
@AllieBankroftsLover ... or by the Elders of Zion perhaps?
@helenS the more the merrier.
meJess · F
You can see the flag with a decent telescope when the orientation is appropriate.
..yes...🧜‍♀..we can see the Moon🌝..but i don't think we could find it🌏📌🚀..with any kind of technology🥽👀
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
No, I have no reason to think that.
There are several places on our flat earth the moon landing video could have been faked. But I do admit with Bigfoot around some of those places are not ideal for the crews to film.
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Dutchess · 18-21, F
@Rolexeo exactly
1234cardiff · 61-69, M
No
Total true
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@NerdyPotato Nitedoc has finally had enough and has blocked me ;)
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@NerdyPotato It's Ferise1
@SW-User I don't even remember that name. Must be a rather old block then.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@SW-User Swirlie did likewise to me when I brought out the flashcards in an attempt to educate her regarding where her logic failed her.

It is rather sad when someone who is already being irrational and illogical chooses to shut out anyone who is the opposite.
NO

Captainjackass · 31-35, M
Of course but I think some of the audio wasn’t available to public. I was always disappointed though that they didn’t have a blooper reel.
LordShadowfire · 51-55, M
In addition to the reasons everyone else has posted as to why I don't, there's a very simple way that anybody with a few hundred dollars can prove it was real. Purchase an astronomical telescope, then go to the following website:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retroreflectors_on_the_Moon
In the source documentation for the article, you'll find another website that contains the locations of several reflectors. Wait for a full moon, point your telescope at the moon, then use the website to find each reflector.

If we didn't walk on the moon, how the hell did those get there?
GoFish · 41-45, F
My dad does.. personally i think the reasoning behind disbelieving it is credible
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
No, not even before the guy who came up with that fib came clean with everybody.
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peterlee · M
All done without a decent computer.

 
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