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ArishMell · 70-79, M
No - but I have often wondered the motive of those determined to insist it was.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@ArishMell They have a desperate need to feel intelligent.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire Possibly, but an odd way to do so. Or to seek attention.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@ArishMell not really. You see, everybody loves detective stories. Sherlock Holmes, Miss Marple, and so forth. Not only are they clever and intelligent, but they lead interesting and dramatic lives. Being a detective, an investigator, suggests that you are smarter than all the sheeple who told you you'd never amount to anything because you were too busy inhaling aerosol cans.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire LOL! yes, I see your point. I have found many people like that become defensive and manipluative, even aggressive, if you try to question them.
Sherlock Holmes is an appropriate choice there. The author, Arthur Conan Doyle, was never one to let logic or genuine ignorance get in the way of a good story, such as the "Cottingley Fairies" hoax and the abandoment of the Mary Celeste.
Sherlock Holmes is an appropriate choice there. The author, Arthur Conan Doyle, was never one to let logic or genuine ignorance get in the way of a good story, such as the "Cottingley Fairies" hoax and the abandoment of the Mary Celeste.
Magenta · F
@ArishMell @LordShadowfire This is what Dr. Grande says..No worries it's a short clip.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Magenta Thank you. Not the clearest of lectures to follow, and made-up words like "ideation" don't help (just say "ideas"!), but he makes an interesting link between narcissiscism and believing in conspiracy-theories.
I'd never thought of it that way, but it could well apply to many of them. They do have an ineffable notion that if they believe in "abc" no matter how daft, how little the evidence of it, then they are clever, "abc" must be true and anyone who says otherwise is either an ignorant fool or a liar.
Though saying such people are driven to wanting to feel "unique" - which everyone is anyway - doesn't seem to align with their tendency to seek refuge in Internet herds of others with the same belief. I wonder how Dr. Grande would answer that question?
I'd never thought of it that way, but it could well apply to many of them. They do have an ineffable notion that if they believe in "abc" no matter how daft, how little the evidence of it, then they are clever, "abc" must be true and anyone who says otherwise is either an ignorant fool or a liar.
Though saying such people are driven to wanting to feel "unique" - which everyone is anyway - doesn't seem to align with their tendency to seek refuge in Internet herds of others with the same belief. I wonder how Dr. Grande would answer that question?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@ArishMell Ideation is a word, and it has nothing to do with ideas. It's more of a synonym for tendencies or desires, I guess? It's a term in psychology. Someone can also have suicidal ideation, for instance.
Anyway, to sum up, people are a contradiction. They want to be unique, but they also want to fit in.
Anyway, to sum up, people are a contradiction. They want to be unique, but they also want to fit in.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire OK - thank you for explaining it. I do respect proper techncial terms but tend to be wary of jargon!
Yes, a contradiction indeed. We are all unique as individuals but are herd creatures so do match those around us, and try to fit in with them, in many ways; but I think the conspiracy types must take that to extremes.
Yes, a contradiction indeed. We are all unique as individuals but are herd creatures so do match those around us, and try to fit in with them, in many ways; but I think the conspiracy types must take that to extremes.