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BrandNewMan · M
@jshm2 What a POS little keyboard warrior .. come get some lead
IM5688 · 61-69, M
I have always tried to buy American but many of our largest stores make it very difficult to do. Macy's, JC Penney's, Nordstrom, Lord & Taylor, etc. all mostly carry foreign made merchandise. And it's not just the top name stores that are doing it. Your everyday go to stores like Target, Walmart, Old Navy, etc. pretty much carry 100% foreign made goods.
About 10 years ago, I was going overseas to visit family around the Christmas holidays. I literally went to every store in our large shopping mall to find gifts for them that were made in the USA. The only items I could actually find were cookies and candy.
IMO, if we really want to be able to buy American, we need to start boycotting a lot of stores until they offer American made products.
About 10 years ago, I was going overseas to visit family around the Christmas holidays. I literally went to every store in our large shopping mall to find gifts for them that were made in the USA. The only items I could actually find were cookies and candy.
IMO, if we really want to be able to buy American, we need to start boycotting a lot of stores until they offer American made products.
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ElwoodBlues · M
@DogMan says
And the Tяump admin has rejected Vietnam's offer as inadequate.
So far Vietnam, and Thailand have
said Zero tariffs.
said Zero tariffs.
And the Tяump admin has rejected Vietnam's offer as inadequate.
... Vietnam's offer for 0% tariffs on U.S. imports “means nothing.”
https://fortune.com/2025/04/07/trump-trade-guru-peter-navarro-says-vietnams-zero-tariff-offer-means-nothing/
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
As a construction material contractor, I didn't realize how much of our material was made
overseas.
overseas.
I believe many on the left will NOT buy American, because they hate
Trump far more than they love this country.
Trump far more than they love this country.
I'm glad you found your nationalist sentiments when prices went up... now that everything is more expensive, you're really going to love Trump and the U.S.A..
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Without prejudice: You opening remark is telling. So few Americans realise just how much of they their society uses to function is made overseas. And how much is involved if some of that production can come home..The time line can be years and the difference in cost would be back breaking..Much of Americas prosperity (such as it is) relies on cheap imports..😷
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman the foreign manufacturing will cave. They cannot afford not to
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@GuidanceCounselor Please explain the logic behind that statement? Or is this just optimism on your part?😷
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@GuidanceCounselor
foreign manufacturing will cave.
Or they will sell a little more to each of the other countries that buy from them. The US is the largest customer for many countries but for countries like China they are only about 15% of the country's export trade. So while it will be painful to lose that it is probably not enough to force China to capitulate.
Carla · 61-69, F
As construction "material contractor"...you deliver material? You work at home depot?
You order stock? You handle material for large projects? In any case, how do you not know about where the materials you handle come from? Do you not remember trumps tariffs from his first term? Or when so many products where held up during covid?
How many construction material providers in your area handle only american grown lumber? American made drywall? American made steel?
And let's be honest...those american made products are going to rise. There is no corporation that is not going to raise homegrown prices to closely resemble those of foriegn products.
If you are a contractor, i feel bad for you right now. But, it was your choice.
You order stock? You handle material for large projects? In any case, how do you not know about where the materials you handle come from? Do you not remember trumps tariffs from his first term? Or when so many products where held up during covid?
How many construction material providers in your area handle only american grown lumber? American made drywall? American made steel?
And let's be honest...those american made products are going to rise. There is no corporation that is not going to raise homegrown prices to closely resemble those of foriegn products.
If you are a contractor, i feel bad for you right now. But, it was your choice.
Steve42 · 56-60, M
I'm buying what is at the store. I don't like Trump, buffoon at best, but these tariffs are just the same thing these other countries have been doing to the us citizens since wwII. And paid for the security of Europe over the same time frame. I'm not against bringing industry back to our own country.
Midlifemale · 61-69, M
@Steve42 Exactly.....since WW2, the USA has let the other countries rebuild itself with all of their tariffs and there hasn't been a president yet that stood up to anyone and said enough is enough. You made your money and built a great Europe......now lets even out the score and make the tariffs the same. THAT'S ALL IT IS..... as time goes on, the tariffs will adjust and prices will come down.
Just let our new president run the country like a business..that's what we need to get out of this massive debt we're in
Just let our new president run the country like a business..that's what we need to get out of this massive debt we're in
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Midlifemale · 61-69, M
It's a political thing with the left. We all need to try and make this work, it will pay off in huge amounts of everything in the long run
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swirlie · F
@Midlifemale
We need to try and make WHAT work?
We need to try and make WHAT work?
carpediem · 61-69, M
I agree. TDS is a problem. Typical liberals can't see the big picture. They see whatever the complaint of the day is and that's it. They'd rather sit by and watch working class Americans struggle while gifting illegals all sorts of benefits paid for by the very people who are struggling.
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
Nope, not any more. And I'm informing people around me, in Europe, why they should stop buying American goods as well.
With allies like the orange capo di tutti capi we don't need enemies anymore.
With allies like the orange capo di tutti capi we don't need enemies anymore.
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@BrandNewMan Your words say everything about your person.
I’ll block you, since you’re not able to discuss in a polite way.
I’ll block you, since you’re not able to discuss in a polite way.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@EagerDaddy you block because you cannot handle an opposing view
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@GuidanceCounselor As you can see I handled many opposing views here without blocking.
But if someone is not able to communicate in a civilized way, I block, yes.
But if someone is not able to communicate in a civilized way, I block, yes.
Adrift · 61-69, F
I remember when the made in the USA tag was what you looked for.
Buying American supported American jobs and workers.
Made in china would get you laughed at.
Chinese products were usually known as cheap counterfeit knock offs that wouldn't last long.
Buying American supported American jobs and workers.
Made in china would get you laughed at.
Chinese products were usually known as cheap counterfeit knock offs that wouldn't last long.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
i personally cant wait to see australian beef and produce on australian supermarket shelves.
australian cars driving on the roads again. jobs and revenue a plenty...
etc etc
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australian cars driving on the roads again. jobs and revenue a plenty...
etc etc
🍿
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
Absolutely
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@PatKirby One of the mayor problems of the USA is that half of the nation (left/right, Republican/Democratic) is calling the other half all bad names thinkable and refuse to work together.
That used to be different.
That used to be different.
akindheart · 61-69, F
i ordered from Fabletics. i got a tariff charge which shocked me. now i know where they buy their clothing
DogMan · 61-69, M
@akindheart I'm doing what I can to buy American.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@DogMan i had no idea that fabletics wasn't selling american made procucts. now i know.
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
Actually I am a Canadian and we are actively avoiding EVERYTHING and ANYTHING made in America... We prefer things made in Canada but you see we can buy anything from anywhere ... other than America.. See what happens when your President pisses off the whole world? Turns out the world can exist just fine ... without America...
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
@Midlifemale you fundamentally do NOT understand that the control points I made are things that the USA can NOT work around.. When we stop shipping aluminium and we make 80% of the worlds supply - where in the hell are you going to get it and at what price.. You instantly need ten nuclear reactors to have enough electrical power to produce the amount of Aluminium we supply you now... It takes over a DECADE to build them...If you can finance them...and in that period of time with NO aluminium going to you your manufacturing sector is DECIMATED...You do not control Aluminium WE do... and if we stop to ship it.. you get none... not at a higher price - at no price... The only other place your west Texas refineries can get the same grade of heavy oil we provide now - is from Venezuela and the only country you have pissed off more than Canada happens to be Venezuela... The immediate impact on gasoline in the USA is $1.00 a gallon Canada has the fourth largest proven reserves of oil in the world.. the USA does not work very well without OUR oil... the biggest and most immediate threat to the USA is our massive surplus of electrical power... We shut off the switch and your hair goes on fire ... immediately... NYC grinds to a HALT .. and inside 72 hours people are killing one another to get something to eat...Let alone everything else that runs on OUR electrical power.. Our potash.. you can not grow squat without our potash... One season on the shelf you will find food prices flying though the roof as you need to import food to hold off starvation...
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Midlifemale · 61-69, M
@pdqsailor1 I was advised by SW to block you...you're not worth a reply
Nah man. Our cars break down more than anyone’s. I’ll pay more for a better product.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
I've spent a lot of time online trying to find American made stuff. Usually I'll succeed.
IM5688 · 61-69, M
If we really want to be able to buy American, we need to start boycotting a lot of stores until they offer American made products.
swirlie · F
@IM5688
You may not know this but 91% of all goods purchased anywhere in the USA are made in China.
The reason it has been as cheap to live in the USA for the last 30 years as it has been, is because 91% of American jobs have moved to Asian countries where labor is cheap in comparison and Americans have been just fine with paying cheap prices for goods that were made with cheap labor rates compared to what Americans typically make, even as a minimum wage in the USA.
The reason poorly made North American cars cost so much to buy in the USA is because Trade Unions like the UAW have held GM, Ford and Stellantis hostage for 30 years, where unskilled, uneducated labor is being paid $40 an hour to screw nuts on a wheel on an assembly line.
You as an American, can't have it both ways IM5688.
You may not know this but 91% of all goods purchased anywhere in the USA are made in China.
The reason it has been as cheap to live in the USA for the last 30 years as it has been, is because 91% of American jobs have moved to Asian countries where labor is cheap in comparison and Americans have been just fine with paying cheap prices for goods that were made with cheap labor rates compared to what Americans typically make, even as a minimum wage in the USA.
The reason poorly made North American cars cost so much to buy in the USA is because Trade Unions like the UAW have held GM, Ford and Stellantis hostage for 30 years, where unskilled, uneducated labor is being paid $40 an hour to screw nuts on a wheel on an assembly line.
You as an American, can't have it both ways IM5688.
IM5688 · 61-69, M
@swirlie You are correct in what you say about unions. I have always been against them. At one time they actually did some good, like stopping child labor and 80 work weeks and getting employers to provide health benefits, but those days are gone and now unions do nothing but get higher wages for otherwise typical low paying jobs.
swirlie · F
@IM5688
We have to remember that back in the late 1960's, then Senator Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated because he tried to put a halt to Labor Unions in the USA. He attempted that bold action by going after the Teamsters Union in his noble but foolish attempt to disband that Union which represented American auto workers in Detroit.
What this means is, Unions are in place for a valid reason and America's higher than poverty standard of living is because of Trade Unions, not because of American ingenuity and world dominance in the manufacturing industry.
If you want an American to screw the nut onto your brand new car as it rolls along the American-made assembly line, then be prepared to put your money where your mouth is, otherwise start buying more affordable but imported Chinese cars and lay this issue of returning manufacturing jobs to the USA to rest once and for all.
We have to remember that back in the late 1960's, then Senator Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated because he tried to put a halt to Labor Unions in the USA. He attempted that bold action by going after the Teamsters Union in his noble but foolish attempt to disband that Union which represented American auto workers in Detroit.
What this means is, Unions are in place for a valid reason and America's higher than poverty standard of living is because of Trade Unions, not because of American ingenuity and world dominance in the manufacturing industry.
If you want an American to screw the nut onto your brand new car as it rolls along the American-made assembly line, then be prepared to put your money where your mouth is, otherwise start buying more affordable but imported Chinese cars and lay this issue of returning manufacturing jobs to the USA to rest once and for all.
NoGamesTolerated · F
I’m trying ….
MethDozer · M
Not always. I much prefer we remove the tarriffs on Canadian lumber. Even the ones that were in place before Trump's new BS. It was cheaper, higher quality and they have so much more of it. Trade is good.
Tru buying American crown coffee, chocolate, bananas, tea.. Good luck with all that. Keep consuming those things, and your argument is 100% bunk.
Besides there's plenty of resources we aren't even able to procure ourselves. The romanticized utopia of a walled garden of abundance is myth.
Also remember. It was the rich capitalist private businesses that sent jobs overseas. Not the government, not the EPA, nobody but the rich ownership class that wanted to maximize exploitation and profits for their own sole benefit.
Tru buying American crown coffee, chocolate, bananas, tea.. Good luck with all that. Keep consuming those things, and your argument is 100% bunk.
Besides there's plenty of resources we aren't even able to procure ourselves. The romanticized utopia of a walled garden of abundance is myth.
Also remember. It was the rich capitalist private businesses that sent jobs overseas. Not the government, not the EPA, nobody but the rich ownership class that wanted to maximize exploitation and profits for their own sole benefit.
Morvoren · F
Nope.
swirlie · F
It doesn't matter what side of the aisle you are on, we should ALL be trying to buy American.
If it doesn't matter which side of the aisle we're on, then why? did you conclude by saying...
The sad thing is, I believe many on the left will NOT buy American, because they hate Trump far more than they love this country.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Unfortunately, owing to Trump's recklessness, buying anything American will probably not be a practical option for me for many months to come.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl you will have to get drunk on some other import child
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@GuidanceCounselor Won't need to soon. Global warming is turning some of our English vineyards into prime terroir 🌞🍷
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl yeah sure
Around 90 % of generic drugs in the US are imported and around 90% of prescriptions filled in the US are for generic drugs. I wonder how those reliant on prescription medicines will buy American 🤔
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
Here's the deal. No company in their right mi d is goi g to bothercsetting up shop in the US just to avoid a Trump tariff. It would be suicide. They would be locked out of selling in other countries. Meanwhile we're going to be stuck paying the additional 46 percent for stuff made in vietnam.
His plan is not going to work. The next election will be a bloodbath.
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His plan is not going to work. The next election will be a bloodbath.
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Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@Midlifemale But not American companies.
Midlifemale · 61-69, M
@Tastyfrzz most are not...correct. I have read that a few American companies that have moved their manufacturing to other countries, are thinking of coming back....Apple being one of them, Walmart, Stellantis (Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge) and GE...Honda will start building electric cars in Indiana. And lots more to come.
Midlifemale · 61-69, M
@Tastyfrzz
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC)
Chips giant, the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC), will boost its US investment by $100bn, building new five new “cutting edge” fabrication plants on American soil, Donald Trump has announced alongside the company's chief executive to avoid tariffs
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC)
Chips giant, the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC), will boost its US investment by $100bn, building new five new “cutting edge” fabrication plants on American soil, Donald Trump has announced alongside the company's chief executive to avoid tariffs
DogMan · 61-69, M
This has really brought the shady foreign companies to light. They enacted Tariff surcharges
on their existing inventory that they did not pay higher tariffs on.
on their existing inventory that they did not pay higher tariffs on.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
Just heard that Taiwan has agreed to 0% tariffs.
Spotpot · 46-50, M
You can pay much more for lower quality if you want that might not be true for other americans,
softspokenman · M
@Spotpot We have another problem "Engineered Obsolescence" products designed to stop working or need to be replaced or repaired after normal usage, which may seem to be a relatively short period of time.
"Gentlemen, for the lack of a better word 'Greed' is good"
Gorden Gekko ~ Movie, Wall Street, Oliver Stone.
Inspired by a real-life Wall Street criminal.
"Gentlemen, for the lack of a better word 'Greed' is good"
Gorden Gekko ~ Movie, Wall Street, Oliver Stone.
Inspired by a real-life Wall Street criminal.
ShenaniganFoodie · 36-40, M
I can't buy a battery for my Dewalt, hardware store will no longer stock Yankee products
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@ShenaniganFoodie dewalt batteries are made in china...
ShenaniganFoodie · 36-40, M
@wildbill83 But marked " Made in the USA "
swirlie · F
@ShenaniganFoodie
No, they're not marked "Made in the USA", they're marked Made in China right on the purchase invoice.
No, they're not marked "Made in the USA", they're marked Made in China right on the purchase invoice.
Spotpot · 46-50, M
A strong dollar leads to more imports relative to exports if you want to boost exporters you have to devalue the currency.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Spotpot Most of what kept the $ strong was the demand for it as the trade currency. The Chinese and BRICS have recently been undrmining the foundations of that..😷
Spotpot · 46-50, M
@whowasthatmaskedman BRICS wont be a successes to diffrent countriues to diifrent culkuresa and econiomies,
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Spotpot BRICS payment system is already a success, using the Yuan as a trading currency and China are selling blocks of Yuan for use. Just like the Americans have..The saudis, South Africanjs and Brazilians have been at it for a while now..And others are starting to do it. So Sorry.. "WRONG!"😷
Midlifemale · 61-69, M
It would be nice if most products made in America were made by American owned companies.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
There won't be any chlorinated chicken in this house!
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
How can I? Retailers aren't even stocking American anymore
BrandNewMan · M
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP
There are many options out there .. google it for type of products you want
https://mammothnation.com/
https://www.blackriflecoffee.com//
https://www.allamericanstore.us/#:~:text=Made%20in%20the%20USA%20and%20proudly%20Handcrafted%20in%20America.
https://www.american-giant.com/
https://www.madeinusaproduct.com/category/sporting-goods.php
https://www.everythingkitchens.com/blog/top-made-in-america-kitchen-brands-from-everything-kitchens.html?srsltid=AfmBOor5HR8lF6yG4EFGjBANYVoOPoMbmOJ_dl-gjuGrbG1ooOYK-OZU
Sturm Ruger
Several bourbon brands
Samuel Adams
Some L.L. Bean products
etc
There are many options out there .. google it for type of products you want
https://mammothnation.com/
https://www.blackriflecoffee.com//
https://www.allamericanstore.us/#:~:text=Made%20in%20the%20USA%20and%20proudly%20Handcrafted%20in%20America.
https://www.american-giant.com/
https://www.madeinusaproduct.com/category/sporting-goods.php
https://www.everythingkitchens.com/blog/top-made-in-america-kitchen-brands-from-everything-kitchens.html?srsltid=AfmBOor5HR8lF6yG4EFGjBANYVoOPoMbmOJ_dl-gjuGrbG1ooOYK-OZU
Sturm Ruger
Several bourbon brands
Samuel Adams
Some L.L. Bean products
etc
DogMan · 61-69, M
@BrandNewMan I just became a member of Mammoth Nation. I didn't realize there
were so many products still made in America.
were so many products still made in America.
BrandNewMan · M
@DogMan 👍🏻 Yep. Takes a bit of looking but there is more than most know.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
I won't be buying American. Most of it is lesser quality than other goods anyway.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@swirlie you have a great day ms swirlie
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swirlie · F
@whowasthatmaskedman
I think it's because they're all stamped out of the same sheet of cookie dough.
I think it's because they're all stamped out of the same sheet of cookie dough.
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GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
pdqsailor1 wimped out and blocked me. My lack of concern over their whining was too much to bear.
softspokenman · M
How long will it be until all products that all Americans purchase are produced in America and owned by Americans?
DogMan · 61-69, M
@softspokenman Too long.
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@softspokenman You might tesearch where self-sufficiency leads to, in terms of wealth etc.
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
I buy what I can afford.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Moneyonmymind And thats the thing. A lot of Americas standard of living is underpinned by cheap imports making more options available to regular Americans..😷
PatKirby · M
The Left will sell out their grandmothers before they love this country.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@DogMan Also America doesn't feed the world, where have you been? Doge been dismantling programs that feed the world, research diseases, monitor weather and other things. America quite literally doesn't do anything anymore internationally. What are you not understanding
DogMan · 61-69, M
@SatanBurger The USAID bribery scheme doesn't feed people, or cure disease, they brainwash
people into believing DEI and Trans issues are the most important things in the world.
people into believing DEI and Trans issues are the most important things in the world.
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