Why we need a Federal Assault Weapons Ban Law NOW

@badminton


Cope Harder!

@Baremine That is some spectacular bullshitting, just absolutely spectacular. Show me where MADD asks people to enlist in the military. You on the other hand, apparently think people should be allowed to fight wars started by politicians they can't even vote against.

@LordShadowfire false what ?????
GUNS don't shoot themselves
People use them therfore it's the people's fault
What don't you get ?

@Abstraction Yes. I cant argue with any of that. But we have to flip lenses back and forth from internal Chinese, to global economy and throw in the Centralised government, controlling the currency and enforcing government policy and the relative weakness of the rest of a Covid ridden world . China can be "weak" and still be strong enough economically to knock over a basket case America that relies on imports to run most of the manufacturing still has an subsidizes so many exports, of which it has few..
The Japanese case is also interesting.. If Japan decided to stand with China (not likely) They could own the American economy between them...😷

@whowasthatmaskedman I would like to see Australia stop foreign home ownership in Australia. We have a housing crisis and wealthy overseas folk, particularly Chinese, are profiting from our market and keeping prices inflated.
I'd go further. I would institute a policy that overseas owners of houses have 12 months to sell - which will drive the market down a little. Of course, I don't fully understand the implications or unintended outcomes and no-one will vote for me. But if they won't tackle negative gearing they should tackle that one.

@Abstraction A lot of Australians would agree with you as the number of properties bought up and laying idle in our major cities has made it close to impossibel to enter the market as a first home buyer. And the Chinese are a large part of that picture in just the manner you describe. A recent chnage of government may well see a change of policy there. But its a Catch 22 with a lot of people having mortgaged their souls at the top of the market at ultra low interest rates (contrary to all sane advice) and now facing dropping home valuations and rising interest rates pushing them toward negative equity. (And our lending rules dont allow you to hand back the keys and walk away.. On the books I am a millionaire just by owning a decent home,, Its madness..😷

@YourMomsSecretCrush So let's make it easier for people to kill other people.

@OggggO @LordShadowfire pass all the laws you want, the people (law abiding and criminal) who have no intention of giving them up wont give them up, and sheriffs that dont believe in the laws wont enforce them.

@YourMomsSecretCrush So, don't re-elect the sheriffs who refuse to uphold the law. Why is that even a question?

@pdockal There are physically too many guns sold at a time when not enoght records were kept and there is not enought trust in the governments. (Federal or State) to inform the government who has even half of them.. Millions of those firearms arent in the hands of professional criminals or gangs. Just people who are breaking laws just by having those guns and they arent about to say anything.😷

@whowasthatmaskedman
Why does the Government need to know who has them ?????

We need to fix the underlying problem of why the individual chose to pull the trigger

@pdockal That is certainly a problem long overdue for addressing. And indeed maybe why no one trusts the US government is part of it. But no one gives children hand grenades to play with, because they dont need them and they are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.. Thats insane..😷

@pdockal Says a piece of paper.. But there is the "Cold dead hands" clause....😷

@whowasthatmaskedman 👎

@Majorsite I dont really like it either. But that doesnt make me wrong.. I cant see Americans willingly giving up their guns, full stop.. But ultimately the day will come when someone will make an offer they cant refuse to those who dont.😷

@RedBaron I think you're wrong there. Plenty of people think everone and everying has a price and see the law as an obstacle to be overcome as opposed to a restriction on their autonomy.

Granted, theyre not entirely politically organized and have their own divisions, but my guess is, in the next few months, you might even see Trump make a play for them, givenDeSantis record.

@MistyCee I’m not wrong. It’s basic economics. The more difficult a good or service is to obtain given relatively non-elastic demand, the higher the price.

@RedBaron I was referring to people willing to break the law not being price sensitive, but I see your point.

@Wantingwidow Not all, and not immediately, but many mass killings are conducted by young men who buy these weapons and immediately go on a killing spree. We need to ban them now and start the downward trajectory of these killings.

@Wantingwidow Wrong. In Uvalde TX, Las Vegas 2017, and many other mass shootings, the weapons were purchased legally. The guns of choice are AR-15-types.

@badminton That's impossible! There were "No Guns Allowed" Signs on those buildings!

@whowasthatmaskedman Of course they will. Even 🎅 is saying Ho Ho Ho to that.

@softspokenman That people like Martin Luther King get shot and people like Alex Jones dont is what is wrong with America..😷

@Johnson212 Proper background checks and especially mental health screening process and procedures would be the best way to stop the wrong people from arming themselves but I know it’s just currently far too easy to obtain guns at this moment in time.

@pdockal Actually it is the guns.

@badminton tell that to the 4 dead students in Idaho.

@badminton seriously ... if you want to get technical its the bullets ... so if the trigger isn't pulled how does a gun kill you ??????????

@SW-User
That won't stop our criminals
We do have gun laws
I'm sure your criminals have ALL the guns they need

@SW-User
... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

@BizSuitStacy believe me, the folks the have em and intend on keeping them (both criminal and law abiding) have no intention of giving them up, regardless of whatever laws are passed. and there are plenty (most in fact) of sheriffs who have no intention of enforcing unconstitutional laws.

@YourMomsSecretCrush Totally. I've studied this topic in detail for more than 20 years. Books, articles, independent research. I've poured through the FBI's crime database. Conducted my own analysis. The facts and data never favor extreme gun control measures. I've heard every single argument any gun grabber has. It's all based on 100% emotion. There is not a shred of critical thinking going on in their heads.

@BizSuitStacy they are not concerned with statistics........ ironically, they will only be happy when only the military and the police have high powered weapons........ and then claim to be anti-fascists. you cant even make this shit up. 🤣

@pdockal I certainly do not disagree with the idea of analyzing these persons to find out why they choose to behave in this fashion. However, let us not forget that it is Republicans who consistently vote against the idea of red flag laws. In Colorado Springs had previously threatened his mother with a bomb, among other disturbing behavior, and no one launched an investigation into his mental health. Don't you find that fascinating? I certainly do.

@CorvusBlackthorne
Why does your argument always go there ?
Democrats vs republicans ?
I could throw out tons of stats that show the democratic run cuties have more fun violence then non democratic run cities

FIX THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM OF WHY THE INDIVIDUAL PULLED THE TRIGGER and we wouldn't be having this debate and we wouldn't need more laws (don't you think the government already regulates tooooo much of our lives) regulating oversight

@pdockal Because when mass shootings occur, it is always Republicans who look for something to blame other than the widespread availability of semi-automatic weapons with large capacity magazines. That is why.
That is adorable. I could almost be persuaded to believe that you are ignorant of the fact that Republicans voted against legislation that would make that easier.

Which would prove nothing. The statistics you have seen are manipulated.

@softspokenman I understand making them illegal but I don’t see it taking them out of circulation at a high enough level to be effective. Plenty of responsible gun owners bought AR-15s during the pandemic and they have been selling them both back to gun stores and dealers according to a YouTube vid I saw because they realized that they didn’t actually need them. I think plenty of people wouldn’t turn their illegal assault weapon in unless they were actually facing incarceration. I’m not trying to argue for people owning them I’m just trying to be aware of why people feel the need. I feel like it comes down to the fact that people who want them feel entitled to own any sort of firearm they can because they believe that they have the freedom to no matter who else is enabled by that freedom. I do believe that it’s a mental health issue as far as how these mass casualty events happen and I cite the example of not being allowed to get a drivers license if you aren’t deemed mentally fit enough. This similar standard should be a minimum for firearms. I agree that ammunition should be tracked. The problem is that there are so many ways to get diverted weapons and not enough enforcement. The ATF is primarily responsible and the FBI and local and state police have so many other things to do. I’m not sure how but I feel things need a reboot but the opposition is always so strong that logic doesn’t ever seem to win out. One persons reform is an infringement upon another persons freedom. That’s all I can figure 😔

@2cool4school Well. I'm certainly convinced. As they will attempt to find a way to obtain semi-automatic or automatic weapons in order to commit their crimes, we should simply give them an easy way to obtain them.

Do but into many other conversations that you don’t fully grasp?? Is this just your style @CorvusBlackthorne ?? We don’t have to give them an easy way. So many ways exist already. You’re oversimplification and mistaken interpretation surprisingly demonstrates how little you understand my words. But that’s really more your problem than mine. Good luck with that. 😊☺️

@BizSuitStacy Yes to all three. Nut jobs with Guns kill people. It’s easier to ban guns than to identify and stop nut jobs.

@justanothername the only people who would comply are law abiding citizens. The criminal element already responsible for 90% of the firearm homicides won't giving up their guns, and are cheering you on. Pouring gasoline on the fire is always the liberal way.

@justanothername The one where the freak who calls himself "non binary" with "they/them pronouns shot up the nightclub? The one which "red flag" laws failed to disarm him after many previous violent acts?

@MistyCee Even with a Republican-controlled House that will block every sane gun control measure, there is something Democrats can do:

Every time there is another shooting, Democrats have to point the finger at the R's in the House and Senate and say loudly as possible, "Blood is on their hands! They take blood money from the gun industry " and keep saying it. President Biden should use the bully pulpit of his office to keep denouncing the R's that block urgently needed gun safety laws.

@badminton I get the bully pulpit thing, but I also hope Biden will be wise about using and abusing it.

My guess is, he (or his successor) might do far more to actually reduce gun violence by staying in office long enough to appoint judges who'll "fix," by clarifying, distinguishing, or even reversing Heller, McDonald and Bruin, as opposed to rallying Dems to put up legislation that won't pass or pass muster.

As much as I think it's bullshit, the gun advocates have some "good" or at least persuasive and powerful points in their favor.

The biggest of which, imo, is that the root of problem is inanimate objects, but man's inhumanity towards man, and while I liked the assault weapons ban back in the 90s, I'm really getting to see how putting bandaids can also lead to complications and how easily they can be removed.


When you take guns, or even talk about it, gun sales go up, and you fuel the folks who feel like they need them to overcome their own insecurities and inadequacies.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think making mass murder harder is a bad thing, but we're living in an age where vast portions of the country think that mass murders are false flag publicity stunts, and Antifa and the FBI were behind the 1/6 attack, no matter how litlle sense those ideas seem to make to others.

I'm, sorry, but pushing for NOW, just doesnt make sense to me.

Trumpist influenced Republicans will oppose anything supported by Biden or Democrats, and as much as I think that life, liberty, and property ought to be protected by every government official, realistically, as a country, we don't agree about the details on how those things should be protected, and a lot of Americans, Americans who vote, distrust the government to protect them (and their stuff), and want to be ready to shoot it out with libs, communists, Feds, etc, and at the moment, the so called "Conservative" movement is in bed with them.

Honestly, I think the better approach, at the moment is to keep the government running, deal with the economic and foreign policy issues, and not let sane leaders die for the sake of this hill.

@hunkalove Fine, let's tax bullets. And ban assault weapons. This murderous insanity has to stop.

@badminton There are so many guns in the U S and A banning them would only make them cost more.

@hunkalove won't work as I'll make my own bullets .... which allot of people do
Fix the issues .... health care etc

@hunkalove This is why we need a nation-wide ban on assault weapons.

@Roundandroundwego
I'm unsafe if a perp shoves a gun in my face when I'm NOT armed